Built my first computer, it will not boot up though?

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more shocking that you cant read, he needs sata drivers
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And he obviously didn't research the motherboard before purchasing, nor did
he make a SATA floppy disc in advance of even building the PC.
 
I say 10/10 for giving it a try and wanting to learn. We all had to learn
somewhere and surely even you don't know EVERYTHING there is to know about
building a PC.
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I've built four high end machines thus far, most issues are buggy BIOS
related but for the most part it all went smooth.
 
David said:
Hello, I recently built a brand new computer using Gigabyte's
GA-K8NF-9 motherboard. I have everything installed correctly, but
when I turn it on it says "Boot From CD". So I put in my XP cd and/or
my driver cd that came with the motherboard and it doesn't work. I
then try booting with that express recovery utility and it comes up
and says "No HPA Enabled Drive, Press Any Key To Boot". Do you have
any ideas what could be the problem? Everyone is telling me that I
need to install my Sata Drivers for my new harddrive, but I can't
install them because I can't get to the cd. I did not install a
floppy drive in this computer because I was told by numerous people
that I would not need one. I have a DVD-ROM drive as my only IDE
device and it is set to master. I then have my SATA harddrive
installed. Does anyone have any ideas what could be the problem?
Thanks for any ideas.
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You screwed up. Had you done a little more research /before/ jumping out the
plane without a parachute, you'd have found that a floppy drive is 100%
essential for loading the SATA driver.

The answer is simple - spend £10 on a floppy drive - and transfer the SATA
driver from the motherboard CD to a floppy (this will need to be done,
obviously, on a computer that already has an operating system). Then you
will need to change the boot order to boot from the CD and press F6 when
prompted.
 
Ok;
first off you are going to have to have a floppy to do your install to
a SATA drive its the only way to load the SATA driver.
Secondly it appears your DVD does not support being able to boot from it
or you do not have a legitimate copy of XP

Now that you have accepted that you are left with two options.

1) Beg, Buy, Borrow, or Steal a different CD rom that allows booting ( most
do ) and follow Apollos instructions.

2) Do a floppy boot install. It is time consuming but it would allow you to
install from a floppy and your DVD. Just go to google and search for (xp
floppy install) and then go to Microsoft and download the files to do this.
The file you download from Microsoft will allow to make a set of 5 or 6
floppies that you can boot to and install XP from with your DVD

Joe
 
Hey now you are not wrong but don't be so hard on the dude. I learned this
the hard way myself. I had built around 30 computers when I built my first
with a SATA boot drive. Now I was not stuck without a floppy as I was
putting one in anyway but I was confused and it took me a while to figure
out what to do. What had me stuck was after reading the MOBO manual it said
install the drivers from the SILxxx floppy and I got no floppy with my
motherboard. I did not know I had to either download from their website or
copy from the CD that came with the board the drivers and make my own SATA
floppy. That would have been helpful information to put in the manual.

Joe
 
Joe said:
Hey now you are not wrong but don't be so hard on the dude. I learned this
the hard way myself. I had built around 30 computers when I built my first
with a SATA boot drive. Now I was not stuck without a floppy as I was
putting one in anyway but I was confused and it took me a while to figure
out what to do. What had me stuck was after reading the MOBO manual it said
install the drivers from the SILxxx floppy and I got no floppy with my
motherboard. I did not know I had to either download from their website or
copy from the CD that came with the board the drivers and make my own SATA
floppy. That would have been helpful information to put in the manual.
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Agreed. IMHO all SATA drives should come with the necessary driver floppy.

When I upgraded my mobo recently, it came with SATA connectors and SATA
drivers on a floppy. I still use IDE drives, so I haven't been faced
with the SATA install problem yet.
 
Agreed. IMHO all SATA drives should come with the necessary driver floppy.

When I upgraded my mobo recently, it came with SATA connectors and SATA
drivers on a floppy. I still use IDE drives, so I haven't been faced
with the SATA install problem yet.
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It'd be a whole lot easier if MS would just fix their
software. IMO, there is no excuse for an OS that can start
booting from a drive but then "lose" itself. At the very
least they could've allowed alternate sources for the
driver.
 
ToolPackinMama said:
Agreed. IMHO all SATA drives should come with the necessary driver
floppy.
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Ahhh... no. The drivers are not specific to the hard drive they are specific
to the SATA controllers in the mobo or SATA card and those should come with
the floppy.

Joe
 
kony said:
It'd be a whole lot easier if MS would just fix their
software. IMO, there is no excuse for an OS that can start
booting from a drive but then "lose" itself. At the very
least they could've allowed alternate sources for the
driver.
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Agreed it would be domething simple like when you are string to install a
fresh install from an XP upgrade disk and have to eject the XP upgrade disk
to let it verify the 98 disk.

Joe
 
Joe said:
Ahhh... no. The drivers are not specific to the hard drive they are specific
to the SATA controllers in the mobo or SATA card and those should come with
the floppy.
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But why couldn't drives come with generic drivers?
 
Because there are no generic SATA drivers just like there are no generic
audio drivers. The driver has to be for the chipset.

Joe
 
Joe said:
Because there are no generic SATA drivers just like there are no generic
audio drivers. The driver has to be for the chipset.
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Well, there's no world peace either, but that doesn't mean we can't want
that. ;)
 
Joe said:
Ahhh... no. The drivers are not specific to the hard drive they are
specific to the SATA controllers in the mobo or SATA card and those should
come with the floppy.

Joe
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I think what is nesscary is all mobo makers to include the flopp disk with
new motherboards, some makers do. But most don't.

I always read everything i can before building and make all the nesscary
floppy disks and download all the latest drivers for everything, as normally
the one's that come with the mobo are old.
 
Yep. I know what the problem is ... couple of things.
I suspect you have the CD on ide 0. In a system where
you are going to use the SATA controller, you can
only put the ide devices on ide controller 1. First do
that. Then .. physically install your SATA drive, and
make darn sure it is on SATA controller 0. Then ..
install your new floppy drive ( go get one ). And then
.... call the vendor where you got your mobo, and have
them talk you through which files to copy from the
CD to the floppy. Boot the system with your XP cd,
and as it starts hit F6 to load the drivers from the
floppy disk for the SATA.

johns
 
David Mills said:
Apollo, it is not letting me boot from the CD, so I'm not sure
if that is going to work????
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I apologise, as others have said it seems like you need to install
a different CD / DVD drive too, temp or perm to get around the
problems. The steps I outlined are still valid but with a drive
that you can boot from.

HTH
 
David said:
Johns,

How do you switch from IDE 0 to IDE 1?
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I beg to differ with you!

I built a computer for my wife and in it I installed 1 SATA hard drive,
1 DVD-RW on IDE0 Master and 1 Travan 4 tape drive on IDE1 Master.

The system has been working without problem for almost 9 months now!
 
johns said:
Yep. I know what the problem is ... couple of things.
I suspect you have the CD on ide 0. In a system where
you are going to use the SATA controller, you can
only put the ide devices on ide controller 1. First do
that. Then .. physically install your SATA drive, and
make darn sure it is on SATA controller 0. Then ..
install your new floppy drive ( go get one ). And then
... call the vendor where you got your mobo, and have
them talk you through which files to copy from the
CD to the floppy. Boot the system with your XP cd,
and as it starts hit F6 to load the drivers from the
floppy disk for the SATA.

johns
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Your information is A.F.U.!

My wife's computer has 1 SATA hard drive, 1 DVD-RW on IDE0 Master and 1
Travan4 tape drive on IDE1 Master. This has work without problems for
almost 9 months!!!
 
A single SATA does not have to be on SATA 0! The plugs on my wifes
board were mis-labeled and I installed the drive on the second channel
not knowing better at the time. I was able to install Windows XP
Professional with no problems. Since it didn't seem to hurt anything, I
just left it there and it's been working like that for almost 9 months!!
 
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