Building my first PC

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Hi all -

After extensive research and reading reviews, I've decided to build with the
following components. I'm wanting to get feedback whether positive and/or
negative from anyone who's built a computer or more familiar with computers
than me and see if I did a good job in choosing my options wisely. I would
say that I'm a beginning intermediate when it comes to computers. So here
we go:

Case: Thermaltake (ATX)
Motherboard: GIGABYTE "GA-8IPE1000 PRO-G" i865PE Chipset Motherboard for
Intel Socket 478 CPU - ATX form factor

You'll need a new router for your LAN.
Hard drive: Maxtor 250gb, 7200rpm

I'd get 2 125's...or even a small 10,000 rpm Raptor for quick access
to your files. Why put all your eggs in one basket? That way, you
can always clone a restore partition to the other drive...plus use the
other drive to store multimedia. And, if one of the drives goes out
under warranty, you'll still be up and running while you get a
replacement.
Power supply: 480W

Why not get a 650?...for the same price? At any rate, get a QUIET
one.
CPU: P4/3.0E GHz 800M 478P/1MB HT
Video Card: ATI Radeon 9600XT
Ram: Kingston PC3200 DDR 512mb

Get a better quality RAM. Make SURE you get at least 2 sticks to
equal the total you want...so that you can take advantage of the HT.
Personally, I'd get 4 256's.
F/D: Sony 1.44mb
1st CD-Rom: CDRW/DVD Combo (Lite-On)
2nd CD-Rom: Sony 16X DVD+/-RW Dual Layer (Model DW-D22A-B2)

Unless you have a special need, I wouldn't get the cdrw. Yer just
duplicating everything the Sony can do...up to 48x.

Before you buy any DVD media, find out what your DVD player can
play...then purchase accordingly.
Am I missing something? All responses will be appreciated.

Monitor?

Value?...or TOTL? (Top Of The Line)

Value?...17" LCD or 19" CRT

TOTL...19" LCD

Wireless keyboard and mouse.

Wireless multimedia center...to play MP3's and movies on your living
room devices from your computer?

Should I go on...? lol

Sounds like a great system...good luck.


Have a nice one...

Trent

Budweiser: Helping ugly people have sex since 1876!
 
The mobo in question has both USB 2.0 and Firewire ports.

GA-8IPE1000 Pro-G
Intel 865PE chipset

Processor
1.. Socket 478 for Intel® Pentium® 4 processor


Chipset
1.. North Bridge: Intel® 865PE MCH

2.. South Bridge: ICH5

3.. Integrated Peripherals

1.. Marvell Gigabit Ethernet controller

2.. Texas Instrument IEEE 1394 controller

3.. Realtek ALC850 CODEC




Front Side Bus
1.. 800 / 533 / 400 MHz FSB.


Memory
1.. Type: Dual Channel DDR 400 / 333 / 266

2.. Max capacity: 4 GB (Please read FAQ for further
information)

3.. DIMM slots: 4


Internal I/O Connectors
1.. 2 x Serial ATA port

2.. 2 x IEEE 1394 connector

3.. 2 x UltraDMA 100 Bus Master IDE

4.. 1 x FDD connector

5.. 2 x USB 2.0 (Supports 4 ports by cable)

6.. S/P DIF in/out connector

7.. CD / AUX in connector

8.. 1 x Game port pin header

9.. 20-pin ATX Power connector

10.. 4-pin ATX 12V Power connector


Expansion Slots


1.. 1 x AGP slot

2.. 5 x PCI slots (PCI 2.3 compliant)


Rear Panel I/O


1.. 4 x USB 2.0 ports

2.. 1 x RJ45 LAN port

3.. 1 x LPT port

4.. 2 x COM ports

5.. Line-in / Line-out / MIC-in ports

6.. PS/2 (Keyboard/Mouse) ports



http://www.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_GA-8IPE1000 Pro-G.htm
http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/Manual/Manual_GA-8IPE1000 Pro-G.htm


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


| Amazingly, nobody has mentioned USB connectivity! OK
some's probably on the
| m/b, but I'd splash out on a really good USB2 card with
at least 4 rear
| ports and feeds/leads for at least 2 ports minimum to the
front case in a
| spare drive bay, to augment the m/b ports.
| Use rear ports for semi-permanent devices
(printer,scanner,mouse/keyboard or
| controller for same) and front ones for "occasional" kit
(memory stick,
| camera, card reader, etc). Avoid hubs if at all possible -
if you MUST have
| a hub, permanently connect it to one of the aforementioned
rear ports, use
| hub ports only for "light" power (or
independantly-powered) devices.
| There's lots of posts from frustrated users who run into
trouble when
| switching kit randomly port-to-port (having to
reconfigure/re-install kit
| for the "new" port) so having sufficient dedicated ports
at the outset can
| help avoid future grief.
|
| Good luck Len
|
| | > Hi all -
| >
| > After extensive research and reading reviews, I've
decided to build with
| > the
| > following components. I'm wanting to get feedback
whether positive and/or
| > negative from anyone who's built a computer or more
familiar with
| > computers
| > than me and see if I did a good job in choosing my
options wisely. I
| > would
| > say that I'm a beginning intermediate when it comes to
computers. So here
| > we go:
| >
| > Case: Thermaltake (ATX)
| > Motherboard: GIGABYTE "GA-8IPE1000 PRO-G" i865PE
Chipset Motherboard for
| > Intel Socket 478 CPU - ATX form factor
| > Hard drive: Maxtor 250gb, 7200rpm
| > Power supply: 480W
| > CPU: P4/3.0E GHz 800M 478P/1MB HT
| > Video Card: ATI Radeon 9600XT
| > Ram: Kingston PC3200 DDR 512mb
| > F/D: Sony 1.44mb
| > 1st CD-Rom: CDRW/DVD Combo (Lite-On)
| > 2nd CD-Rom: Sony 16X DVD+/-RW Dual Layer (Model
DW-D22A-B2)
| >
| > Am I missing something? All responses will be
appreciated.
| >
| > Thanks,
| > Newtechie
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|
 
Hey Trent,

Thanks for your input! Well I have purchased all the parts so now I'm just
waiting to get them. Today I received the motherboard, cpu, and ram. I
should have the rest by Thursday. I already have the hard drive and router.
You guys have been of great help! Tonight I'm gonna finish reading the "how
to build step by step" article from tomshardware.com .

Newtechie
 
If you don't have a proper set of tools...
Get #1 and #2 Phillips screwdrivers, a small and medium
sized flat blade screwdriver, a pair of needle nosed pliers,
a 1/4 inch drive socket set or nut driver set is very handy
to have. Also I find that forceps are very useful for
handling small parts.
Some zip ties to bundle cables, a good flashlight or head
lamp makes it easier to see inside the dark case.

Put an old bed sheet on the floor around the work table, it
makes finding dropped parts easier...

Don't drop any big parts, like hard and optical drives.

Don't use force, if it doesn't slip in easily, you have the
wrong part or it isn't straight.

Beware of sharp edges on the case, you can cut yourself and
blood is corrosive. If you find sharp edges and burrs you
can use a hone to smooth the edge.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


| Hey Trent,
|
| Thanks for your input! Well I have purchased all the
parts so now I'm just
| waiting to get them. Today I received the motherboard,
cpu, and ram. I
| should have the rest by Thursday. I already have the hard
drive and router.
| You guys have been of great help! Tonight I'm gonna
finish reading the "how
| to build step by step" article from tomshardware.com .
|
| Newtechie
|
|
| | > On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:42:44 -0600, "Newtechie"
<[email protected]>
| > wrote:
| >
| > >Hi all -
| > >
| > >After extensive research and reading reviews, I've
decided to build with
| the
| > >following components. I'm wanting to get feedback
whether positive
| and/or
| > >negative from anyone who's built a computer or more
familiar with
| computers
| > >than me and see if I did a good job in choosing my
options wisely. I
| would
| > >say that I'm a beginning intermediate when it comes to
computers. So
| here
| > >we go:
| > >
| > >Case: Thermaltake (ATX)
| > >Motherboard: GIGABYTE "GA-8IPE1000 PRO-G" i865PE
Chipset Motherboard for
| > >Intel Socket 478 CPU - ATX form factor
| >
| > You'll need a new router for your LAN.
| >
| > >Hard drive: Maxtor 250gb, 7200rpm
| >
| > I'd get 2 125's...or even a small 10,000 rpm Raptor for
quick access
| > to your files. Why put all your eggs in one basket?
That way, you
| > can always clone a restore partition to the other
drive...plus use the
| > other drive to store multimedia. And, if one of the
drives goes out
| > under warranty, you'll still be up and running while you
get a
| > replacement.
| >
| > >Power supply: 480W
| >
| > Why not get a 650?...for the same price? At any rate,
get a QUIET
| > one.
| >
| > >CPU: P4/3.0E GHz 800M 478P/1MB HT
| > >Video Card: ATI Radeon 9600XT
| > >Ram: Kingston PC3200 DDR 512mb
| >
| > Get a better quality RAM. Make SURE you get at least 2
sticks to
| > equal the total you want...so that you can take
advantage of the HT.
| > Personally, I'd get 4 256's.
| >
| > >F/D: Sony 1.44mb
| > >1st CD-Rom: CDRW/DVD Combo (Lite-On)
| > >2nd CD-Rom: Sony 16X DVD+/-RW Dual Layer (Model
DW-D22A-B2)
| >
| > Unless you have a special need, I wouldn't get the cdrw.
Yer just
| > duplicating everything the Sony can do...up to 48x.
| >
| > Before you buy any DVD media, find out what your DVD
player can
| > play...then purchase accordingly.
| >
| > >Am I missing something? All responses will be
appreciated.
| >
| > Monitor?
| >
| > Value?...or TOTL? (Top Of The Line)
| >
| > Value?...17" LCD or 19" CRT
| >
| > TOTL...19" LCD
| >
| > Wireless keyboard and mouse.
| >
| > Wireless multimedia center...to play MP3's and movies on
your living
| > room devices from your computer?
| >
| > Should I go on...? lol
| >
| > Sounds like a great system...good luck.
| >
| >
| > Have a nice one...
| >
| > Trent
| >
| > Budweiser: Helping ugly people have sex since 1876!
| >
|
|
 
If you don't have a proper set of tools...
Get #1 and #2 Phillips screwdrivers, a small and medium
sized flat blade screwdriver, a pair of needle nosed pliers,
a 1/4 inch drive socket set or nut driver set is very handy
to have. Also I find that forceps are very useful for
handling small parts.
Some zip ties to bundle cables, a good flashlight or head
lamp makes it easier to see inside the dark case.

Put an old bed sheet on the floor around the work table, it
makes finding dropped parts easier...

Don't drop any big parts, like hard and optical drives.

Don't use force, if it doesn't slip in easily, you have the
wrong part or it isn't straight.

Beware of sharp edges on the case, you can cut yourself and
blood is corrosive. If you find sharp edges and burrs you
can use a hone to smooth the edge.

You should also use an ESD strap or at least make sure that the area is
static free. If you connect the PSU to the Case, then connect the power
cord to the PSU, BUT DO NOT TURN IT ON and DO NOT CONNECT THE POWER CABLES
TO THE MOTHERBOARD, it will ground the case so that you can discharge
static by touching the case BEFORE you touch the motherboard or any card
for that matter.
 
Newtechie,

Also, be sure to report back on the completion and how things went so others
can learn.

Thanks.
 
Good advice Jim and I'll do just that! I have all the tools(screw drivers,
flashlights, pliers)
already and I'm reared to go. I have a couple of addition questions though.

Since I've gotten the new motherboard, cpu, and ram, do you think it's ok to
go
ahead and assemble those parts so when I receive the case I could just pop
it in
there?

I don't have a workbench so is it ok to work on a carpeted floor? In the
past I've
added ram, video cards, hard drives, etc. with no problem.

Newtechie
 
You can assemble the cpu and memory on the motherboard before it goes into
the case. It's easier that way.
Don't assemble it on carpeting. Carpeting creates and holds Static Charges.
One static charge can permanently destroy electronic parts.
Just use a table and set the motherboard on the foam pad that is included in
the motherboard box to assemble.
 
Yea, but he'll also have to subscribe to a second ISP (or account) for modems, other than using his high speed (broadband). Seems like a waste of money to have two connections.
 
Not necessarily, depending on which broadband provider you use, most good
broadband providers will give you access with a dialup account in
conjunction with your broadband account.

Yea, but he'll also have to subscribe to a second ISP (or account) for
modems, other than using his high speed (broadband). Seems like a waste of
money to have two connections.

Jim Macklin said:
You need a modem to FAX and it is a nice back-up when the
cable is down. Also, some software still uses telephone to
register.


|I didn't plan on getting a modem card because I use high
speed. Maybe I'll
| get one as a back up.
|
in message
| | > Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000 PRO-G i865PE P4 800FSB Skt478 DDR
ATX
| > Motherboard w/Audio, Gigabit LAN Retail (Prescott Ready)
| > ***Free 2nd Day***
| > 400/533/800FSB, ATA/100, 1AGP, 4DDR DIMM, 5PCI, USB 2.0,
| > IEEE 1394, Audio, Gigabit LAN
| >
| > The modem
| >
| >
| > "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm>
wrote
| > in message
| > |A LAN card, unless the mobo has one built-in and a
modem
| > | v.92 if you want one.
| > |
| > |
| > | --
| > | The people think the Constitution protects their
rights;
| > | But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| > |
| > |
| > | | > || Hi all -
| > ||
| > || After extensive research and reading reviews, I've
| > decided
| > | to build with the
| > || following components. I'm wanting to get feedback
| > whether
| > | positive and/or
| > || negative from anyone who's built a computer or more
| > | familiar with computers
| > || than me and see if I did a good job in choosing my
| > options
| > | wisely. I would
| > || say that I'm a beginning intermediate when it comes
to
| > | computers. So here
| > || we go:
| > ||
| > || Case: Thermaltake (ATX)
| > || Motherboard: GIGABYTE "GA-8IPE1000 PRO-G" i865PE
Chipset
| > | Motherboard for
| > || Intel Socket 478 CPU - ATX form factor
| > || Hard drive: Maxtor 250gb, 7200rpm
| > || Power supply: 480W
| > || CPU: P4/3.0E GHz 800M 478P/1MB HT
| > || Video Card: ATI Radeon 9600XT
| > || Ram: Kingston PC3200 DDR 512mb
| > || F/D: Sony 1.44mb
| > || 1st CD-Rom: CDRW/DVD Combo (Lite-On)
| > || 2nd CD-Rom: Sony 16X DVD+/-RW Dual Layer (Model
| > | DW-D22A-B2)
| > ||
| > || Am I missing something? All responses will be
| > | appreciated.
| > ||
| > || Thanks,
| > || Newtechie
| > ||
| > ||
| > ||
| > ||
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
I used a bed, since my apartment doesn't have a big enough
table or room to set one up.

Many people do suggest mounting the CPU, RAM and such on the
mobo before installing it in the case. Some cases have a
removable mounting tray for the mobo. See the manual for
your case, you don't have to wait for the case to arrive,
just download it from the web. http://www.thermaltake.com/

I like to have as few obstructions on the mobo so I can see
and install the screws without risking damage to the RAM or
CPU. It may be done either way, you just don't want to bend
the mobo which can crack it which means you buy a new one.

I didn't mention it, but screw starters are very handy or at
least a magnet to pick up a dropped screw. They also sell
small three finger pickups (jewelry making shops have
these).


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


| Good advice Jim and I'll do just that! I have all the
tools(screw drivers,
| flashlights, pliers)
| already and I'm reared to go. I have a couple of addition
questions though.
|
| Since I've gotten the new motherboard, cpu, and ram, do
you think it's ok to
| go
| ahead and assemble those parts so when I receive the case
I could just pop
| it in
| there?
|
| I don't have a workbench so is it ok to work on a carpeted
floor? In the
| past I've
| added ram, video cards, hard drives, etc. with no problem.
|
| Newtechie
|
in message
| | > If you don't have a proper set of tools...
| > Get #1 and #2 Phillips screwdrivers, a small and medium
| > sized flat blade screwdriver, a pair of needle nosed
pliers,
| > a 1/4 inch drive socket set or nut driver set is very
handy
| > to have. Also I find that forceps are very useful for
| > handling small parts.
| > Some zip ties to bundle cables, a good flashlight or
head
| > lamp makes it easier to see inside the dark case.
| >
| > Put an old bed sheet on the floor around the work table,
it
| > makes finding dropped parts easier...
| >
| > Don't drop any big parts, like hard and optical drives.
| >
| > Don't use force, if it doesn't slip in easily, you have
the
| > wrong part or it isn't straight.
| >
| > Beware of sharp edges on the case, you can cut yourself
and
| > blood is corrosive. If you find sharp edges and burrs
you
| > can use a hone to smooth the edge.
| >
| >
| > --
| > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| >
| >
| > | > | Hey Trent,
| > |
| > | Thanks for your input! Well I have purchased all the
| > parts so now I'm just
| > | waiting to get them. Today I received the
motherboard,
| > cpu, and ram. I
| > | should have the rest by Thursday. I already have the
hard
| > drive and router.
| > | You guys have been of great help! Tonight I'm gonna
| > finish reading the "how
| > | to build step by step" article from tomshardware.com .
| > |
| > | Newtechie
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:42:44 -0600, "Newtechie"
| > <[email protected]>
| > | > wrote:
| > | >
| > | > >Hi all -
| > | > >
| > | > >After extensive research and reading reviews, I've
| > decided to build with
| > | the
| > | > >following components. I'm wanting to get feedback
| > whether positive
| > | and/or
| > | > >negative from anyone who's built a computer or more
| > familiar with
| > | computers
| > | > >than me and see if I did a good job in choosing my
| > options wisely. I
| > | would
| > | > >say that I'm a beginning intermediate when it comes
to
| > computers. So
| > | here
| > | > >we go:
| > | > >
| > | > >Case: Thermaltake (ATX)
| > | > >Motherboard: GIGABYTE "GA-8IPE1000 PRO-G" i865PE
| > Chipset Motherboard for
| > | > >Intel Socket 478 CPU - ATX form factor
| > | >
| > | > You'll need a new router for your LAN.
| > | >
| > | > >Hard drive: Maxtor 250gb, 7200rpm
| > | >
| > | > I'd get 2 125's...or even a small 10,000 rpm Raptor
for
| > quick access
| > | > to your files. Why put all your eggs in one basket?
| > That way, you
| > | > can always clone a restore partition to the other
| > drive...plus use the
| > | > other drive to store multimedia. And, if one of the
| > drives goes out
| > | > under warranty, you'll still be up and running while
you
| > get a
| > | > replacement.
| > | >
| > | > >Power supply: 480W
| > | >
| > | > Why not get a 650?...for the same price? At any
rate,
| > get a QUIET
| > | > one.
| > | >
| > | > >CPU: P4/3.0E GHz 800M 478P/1MB HT
| > | > >Video Card: ATI Radeon 9600XT
| > | > >Ram: Kingston PC3200 DDR 512mb
| > | >
| > | > Get a better quality RAM. Make SURE you get at
least 2
| > sticks to
| > | > equal the total you want...so that you can take
| > advantage of the HT.
| > | > Personally, I'd get 4 256's.
| > | >
| > | > >F/D: Sony 1.44mb
| > | > >1st CD-Rom: CDRW/DVD Combo (Lite-On)
| > | > >2nd CD-Rom: Sony 16X DVD+/-RW Dual Layer (Model
| > DW-D22A-B2)
| > | >
| > | > Unless you have a special need, I wouldn't get the
cdrw.
| > Yer just
| > | > duplicating everything the Sony can do...up to 48x.
| > | >
| > | > Before you buy any DVD media, find out what your DVD
| > player can
| > | > play...then purchase accordingly.
| > | >
| > | > >Am I missing something? All responses will be
| > appreciated.
| > | >
| > | > Monitor?
| > | >
| > | > Value?...or TOTL? (Top Of The Line)
| > | >
| > | > Value?...17" LCD or 19" CRT
| > | >
| > | > TOTL...19" LCD
| > | >
| > | > Wireless keyboard and mouse.
| > | >
| > | > Wireless multimedia center...to play MP3's and
movies on
| > your living
| > | > room devices from your computer?
| > | >
| > | > Should I go on...? lol
| > | >
| > | > Sounds like a great system...good luck.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Have a nice one...
| > | >
| > | > Trent
| > | >
| > | > Budweiser: Helping ugly people have sex since
1876!
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
FAX goes directly to the voice phone line. Many cable/DSL
ISPs have alternate telephone dial-up with same account for
emergencies.

Floppies and modems are optional. Flash memory is better
than a floppy and certainly cable is better than dialup, but
there are times when it is nice to have.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


Yea, but he'll also have to subscribe to a second ISP (or
account) for modems, other than using his high speed
(broadband). Seems like a waste of money to have two
connections.

Jim Macklin said:
You need a modem to FAX and it is a nice back-up when the
cable is down. Also, some software still uses telephone
to
register.


|I didn't plan on getting a modem card because I use high
speed. Maybe I'll
| get one as a back up.
|
| "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm>
wrote
in message
| | > Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000 PRO-G i865PE P4 800FSB Skt478 DDR
ATX
| > Motherboard w/Audio, Gigabit LAN Retail (Prescott
Ready)
| > ***Free 2nd Day***
| > 400/533/800FSB, ATA/100, 1AGP, 4DDR DIMM, 5PCI, USB
2.0,
| > IEEE 1394, Audio, Gigabit LAN
| >
| > The modem
| >
| >
| > "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm>
wrote
| > in message
| > |A LAN card, unless the mobo has one built-in and a
modem
| > | v.92 if you want one.
| > |
| > |
| > | --
| > | The people think the Constitution protects their
rights;
| > | But government sees it as an obstacle to be
overcome.
| > |
| > |
| > | | > || Hi all -
| > ||
| > || After extensive research and reading reviews, I've
| > decided
| > | to build with the
| > || following components. I'm wanting to get feedback
| > whether
| > | positive and/or
| > || negative from anyone who's built a computer or more
| > | familiar with computers
| > || than me and see if I did a good job in choosing my
| > options
| > | wisely. I would
| > || say that I'm a beginning intermediate when it comes
to
| > | computers. So here
| > || we go:
| > ||
| > || Case: Thermaltake (ATX)
| > || Motherboard: GIGABYTE "GA-8IPE1000 PRO-G" i865PE
Chipset
| > | Motherboard for
| > || Intel Socket 478 CPU - ATX form factor
| > || Hard drive: Maxtor 250gb, 7200rpm
| > || Power supply: 480W
| > || CPU: P4/3.0E GHz 800M 478P/1MB HT
| > || Video Card: ATI Radeon 9600XT
| > || Ram: Kingston PC3200 DDR 512mb
| > || F/D: Sony 1.44mb
| > || 1st CD-Rom: CDRW/DVD Combo (Lite-On)
| > || 2nd CD-Rom: Sony 16X DVD+/-RW Dual Layer (Model
| > | DW-D22A-B2)
| > ||
| > || Am I missing something? All responses will be
| > | appreciated.
| > ||
| > || Thanks,
| > || Newtechie
| > ||
| > ||
| > ||
| > ||
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
Hi all -

After extensive research and reading reviews, I've decided to build with the
following components........

I find it very interesting that with all the above information and
opinions that no one offered the thought, that I can see on a quick
scan, the huge importance of a QUALITY power supply. It's realy
worth doing some research on. Forget the "act as ifs" that crow Mine
is great ... 480W with a ....case for $29. Quality cost $$$
I've seen cheapies wipe out some componants costing more than a
quality PS would cost. GOOD LUCK!
 

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