Bug: Scheduled scan time shows as 112:00 AM

[Vanguard]

Microsoft AntiSpyware Version: 1.0.509
This version expires on: 7/31/2005
Spyware Definition Version: 5697 (3/12/2005 9:02:10 PM)

Well, I've always wanted more hours in a day to get all my stuff done
but 112 hours, or more? Some days really do feel like they are that
long.

When I look under the Spyware Scan panel, the Schedule Scan Details
shows "112:00 AM every day". Actually it is scheduled to run at 10:00
AM every day. It does run at 10AM each day so what is configured is
working but the display on the Spyware Scan panel is obviously way off.
I've seen posts from other users saying that the scan doesn't run when
scheduled but this bug is a bit different in that it is simply a defect
in the displayed value.

Also, does anyone know what are the command-line switches to run MSAS?
I don't like the overly simplistic scheduling options available within
MSAS. I'd like to schedule multiple different times on different days
so I could use the options to not start a scan until the computer has
been idle for awhile and to stop it if the computer becomes not idle.
These options are available in Task Scheduler, and MSAS doesn't simply
add an event to Task Scheduler that I could then edit. Hopefully
Microsoft will change MSAS to use the Task Scheduler rather than waste
code space on a duplicated but crippled timing function.

 

[Andre Da Costa]

Yep, known bug with beta 1 release of MSAS, expect to see this one resolved
by beta 2. It is usually a day off or 2, just use another time.

 

[Bill Sanderson]

This one has been posted here many times, and may even be in the FAQ.
You'll notice that it does, in fact, scan at 10 am, regardless of the
appearance.

The FAQ does have some rudimentary command line arguments. Some of them
appear to work. I wouldn't put much effort into working with them because I
would expect them to change at some point in the beta, but you can initiate
a scan via command-line commands.

 

[Linuxgirl]

Apparently, most people are using the web interface to these ng's and are
not paging back past the first page or searching at all.

I have stopped posting on a regular basis just because it is too annoying
for me anymore. I may post from time to time just for a quick question or
conversation but the web interface has ruined whatever value the ng's
could provide.

From what I've seen here, most of these people don't know how to set up a
newsreader.

 

[JohnF.]

Apparently, most people are using the web interface to these ng's and are
not paging back past the first page or searching at all.

I have stopped posting on a regular basis just because it is too annoying
for me anymore. I may post from time to time just for a quick question or
conversation but the web interface has ruined whatever value the ng's could
provide.

JohnF.

 

[Andre Da Costa]

The web interface of the NG does look nice though, similar to Office Outlook
2003. ;-)

 

[Bill Sanderson]

fwiw, Microsoft is well aware of this issue. They are hard at work at
making the newer web interface suitable for use in this kind of beta.
Here's hoping that we'll see the fruits of that work.

 

[JohnF.]

I saw that - I hope it helps but that interface is not promised for anytime
soon.

JohnF.

 

[plun]

I saw that - I hope it helps but that interface is not promised for anytime
soon.

I think MS is doing a mistake with this, all modern forums
are with "board interface".
Threads, quoting, no broken URL:s, formats and some smileys .

I can´t see any future for newsgroups.

 

[Andre Da Costa]

Boards are not easy navigate, I prefer the NG approach, and they are not
searchable either. I have tried searching a few boards and its like pulling
teeth.

 

[plun]

Boards are not easy navigate, I prefer the NG approach, and they are not
searchable either. I have tried searching a few boards and its like pulling
teeth.

?

You must be registered and logged in to search.

Try Lavasoft for example.

http://www.lavasoftsupport.com/index.php?act=Search&f=

"Sorry, the board administrator has enabled search flood
control."

"Please log in......"

Smart....!

 

[Bill Sanderson]

Have you looked at the newer Microsoft interface for groups? I think it is
pretty good, and it will be here sooner or later--with luck, sooner.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/newsgroups/security/default.mspx

Look at the links at the bottom of this page

 

[Vanguard]

message

Apparently, most people are using the web interface to these ng's and
are not paging back past the first page or searching at all.

I have stopped posting on a regular basis just because it is too
annoying for me anymore. I may post from time to time just for a
quick question or conversation but the web interface has ruined
whatever value the ng's could provide.

JohnF.

<snip>

I guess you neglected to read my original post where I already mentioned
seeing all those posts about the scheduled scan running at the wrong
time. I didn't see any that focused on the DISPLAY of that scheduled
time. If you really didn't want to provide help or get involved, my
Subject line was more than clear enough regarding my topic which you
should have then decided to skip. What compelled you to read my post?
What compelled you to reply with a response that did not address the
topic? It's our fault that you keep jabbing yourself with a pin rather
than just not do it? I wasn't aware the
microsoft.private.security.spyware.* groups were expressly for posting
by self-proclaimed wizards.

I noticed that wizard you didn't even bother to provide links to those
other oh-so-relevant posts as proof that they directly addressed my
query. Too often I've seen flippant replies saying "Go search Google"
and even may give a URL but which returns millions of matches as though
that were really a viable solution to the poster. Sorry, but I've
declined the job of Usenet God in knowing all contained in all posts and
never missing any posts that might apply to my query. I did look.
Looking doesn't guarantee finding.

Apparently you also did not bother to actually look at the headers of my
post to see if I used the webnews (CDO) interface or used a client to
connect to an NNTP server. Go look at my headers and you'll see which
interface I use. Since the NNTP server is private and its posts are not
available for searches with Google Groups, what posts are visible
depends entirely on the retention period configured for the NNTP server
along with how the user configures their NNTP client. I don't keep
posts over 5 days old since I won't be reading or participating in them.
I have no interest in maintaining my own private archive of usenet
posts. When I participate, I'm only interested in recent discussions.
If I need to look something up that is older, I use an archiving NNTP
service, like Google Groups. That won't work with a private NNTP
server. There is also the possibility that I missed a post, or two,
that actually addressed MY query regarding the *displayed* value for the
scheduled scan. Oh my God, I must be forever damned thereafter for
missing a relevant post, or two.

Fixing the algorithm used to determine WHEN the scheduled scan gets
executed does not address fixing the DISPLAY of when that scan is
scheduled to occur. Fixing one doesn't mean the other gets fixed, too.
If the DISPLAY of the scheduled scan was such a prevalently repeated
question here, I certainly never saw it asked. I didn't ask why the
scheduled scan did not run. I did not ask why it ran at a different
time. My bug report only focused on the DISPLAYED time for the
scheduled scan. I already mentioned that the scan did run at the
appropriate time so obviously that was not the topic of my query.

If someone reported that the link under the Help menu to display the
included help resulted in no action (i.e., no help window appeared),
fixing that problem might not fix the separate problem where the item
listed under the Help menu was misspelled. Fixing one defect of a
function doesn't mean all defects will also get fixed. It is YOUR
presumption that fixing the scheduling function will also fix the user
interface.

 

[JohnF.]

Relax Vanguard,

Its called a threaded discussion - I was commenting to Bill - your answer
had already been provided. However, you are correct, people using many
different interfaces are not being afforded the ability to find information
that will help them and help the community of users as well.

My comments were not aimed at you but at the limited interfaces and lack of
helpful explanations to users on how to get the most out of a newsgroup -
unfortunately, my comments lacked adequate content to express that opinion
accurately, my apologies.

These ng's are not for "wizards", they are to help create an effective and
useful tool by feedback mechanisms as well as provide an area where users
can find better ways to use this tool and others with it.

JohnF.

 

[Vanguard]

Relax Vanguard,

Its called a threaded discussion - I was commenting to Bill - your
answer had already been provided. However, you are correct, people
using many different interfaces are not being afforded the ability to
find information that will help them and help the community of users
as well.

Since I didn't see Bill talking about posting through the webnews (CDO)
interface, I had to figure you were referring to me.

My comments were not aimed at you but at the limited interfaces and
lack of helpful explanations to users on how to get the most out of a
newsgroup - unfortunately, my comments lacked adequate content to
express that opinion accurately, my apologies.

These ng's are not for "wizards", they are to help create an effective
and useful tool by feedback mechanisms as well as provide an area
where users can find better ways to use this tool and others with it.

I can't see why anyone wants to use those webnews (CDO) interfaces to
groups. They suck for features when compared to using a real NNTP
client. I think most of the "me too" replies are simply to provide a
replacement for a watch flag so the user can go search on their name to
find the article in which they have an interest. I didn't bother to
participate in the spyware groups until I noticed someone posted how to
connect to Microsoft private NNTP server and the username and password
to use so I could use OE to visit those groups.

Given the choice between using an NNTP client to connect to
microsoft.private.spyware.* groups or the webnews interface, the NNTP
client wins by a large margin. The only time I can see using the
webnews interface is when you don't get to use your own computer and an
NNTP client isn't available for the one you get stuck using. It's like
using your ISP's webmail interface compared to using a real POP3/SMTP
client to yank, manage, and send your e-mails: painful.