Brand new partition has 'Used' space

[Terry Pinnell]

I made a new partition H on my third HD, large enough to contain a
copy of my XP OS from C. But when I came to use Drive Image to make
the copy, it said destination was too small. On inspection, I found
that although it was apparently EMPTY, it had a 'Used' figure of 122MB
- just enough to take it fractionally below the size of C.

Why would a brand new partition have *any* used space? The only
content I can see is a RECYCLER folder, but that's '35 bytes', and I
can't seem to remove it anyway.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

I made a new partition H on my third HD, large enough to contain a
copy of my XP OS from C. But when I came to use Drive Image to make
the copy, it said destination was too small. On inspection, I found
that although it was apparently EMPTY, it had a 'Used' figure of 122MB
- just enough to take it fractionally below the size of C.

Why would a brand new partition have *any* used space? The only
content I can see is a RECYCLER folder, but that's '35 bytes', and I
can't seem to remove it anyway.

Sounds like you did not delete all partitions.
Since this is a new drive I am assuming - initialize and partition it again.

 

[Bert Kinney]

Hi Terry,

Go to the Control Panel/Folder Options/View tab, set it to "Show hidden
files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system files
[recommended]". Also uncheck "Hide extensions for known file types".
Look for a folder or folders that contain data. If it's the System
Volume Information folder holding this data, you will also want to make
sure System Restore is not monitoring that drive. This is where System
Restore holds it restore points and the folder can not be removed.

Disable a monitored drive
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/drivedisable.html

When done looking, make sure to check "Hide protected operating system
files [recommended]".

 

[Ron Martell]

I made a new partition H on my third HD, large enough to contain a
copy of my XP OS from C. But when I came to use Drive Image to make
the copy, it said destination was too small. On inspection, I found
that although it was apparently EMPTY, it had a 'Used' figure of 122MB
- just enough to take it fractionally below the size of C.

Why would a brand new partition have *any* used space? The only
content I can see is a RECYCLER folder, but that's '35 bytes', and I
can't seem to remove it anyway.

Is this an NTFS partition?

Try opening a DOS command window and entering

CHKDSK H:

Space used for the MFT on an NTFS drive will be reported as "nnnn KB
in use by the system".

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm

 

[Terry Pinnell]

Sounds like you did not delete all partitions.
Since this is a new drive I am assuming - initialize and partition it again.

I don't follow. My query is about the (to me) mysterious contents of a
partition. It's one of two on that HD. The other is the single logical
partition made a week ago when I installed the drive.

 

[Terry Pinnell]

Hi Terry,

Go to the Control Panel/Folder Options/View tab, set it to "Show hidden
files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system files
[recommended]". Also uncheck "Hide extensions for known file types".
Look for a folder or folders that contain data. If it's the System
Volume Information folder holding this data, you will also want to make
sure System Restore is not monitoring that drive. This is where System
Restore holds it restore points and the folder can not be removed.

Disable a monitored drive
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/drivedisable.html

When done looking, make sure to check "Hide protected operating system
files [recommended]".

Thanks, but I never hide folders. There was no other one apart from
Recycler.

 

[Terry Pinnell]

Is this an NTFS partition?

Try opening a DOS command window and entering

CHKDSK H:

Space used for the MFT on an NTFS drive will be reported as "nnnn KB
in use by the system".

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada

Thanks Ron. I'll remember that tip for future use. Meanwhile I made
various changes, including by-passing the problem by enlarging the
destination partition (tedious!) and generally getting in a fair old
mess. But I'll post separately under a new subject.

 

[Bert Kinney]

Hi Terry,

Go to the Control Panel/Folder Options/View tab, set it to "Show
hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating
system files [recommended]". Also uncheck "Hide extensions for known
file types". Look for a folder or folders that contain data. If it's
the System Volume Information folder holding this data, you will
also want to make sure System Restore is not monitoring that drive.
This is where System Restore holds it restore points and the folder
can not be removed.

Disable a monitored drive
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/drivedisable.html

When done looking, make sure to check "Hide protected operating
system files [recommended]".

Thanks, but I never hide folders. There was no other one apart from
Recycler.

If you were viewing hidden protected operating system folders, you would
see the System Volume Information folder!

 

[Gerry Cornell]

Terry

How large is your H partition?

Right click on your My Computer icon on your Desktop and select
Properties, System Restore. What is the Status for each drive listed?

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Hope this helps.

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Hi Terry,

Go to the Control Panel/Folder Options/View tab, set it to "Show
hidden
files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system files
[recommended]". Also uncheck "Hide extensions for known file types".
Look for a folder or folders that contain data. If it's the System
Volume Information folder holding this data, you will also want to
make
sure System Restore is not monitoring that drive. This is where System
Restore holds it restore points and the folder can not be removed.

Disable a monitored drive
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/drivedisable.html

When done looking, make sure to check "Hide protected operating system
files [recommended]".

Thanks, but I never hide folders. There was no other one apart from
Recycler.

 

[Terry Pinnell]

Terry

How large is your H partition?

Right click on your My Computer icon on your Desktop and select
Properties, System Restore. What is the Status for each drive listed?

Gerry, Bert: As you probably saw from my reply to Ron, I've moved on a
fair way since that post. (Up half the night!) Please see my later
post 'Why this configuration not working?' which includes a screenshot
from XP Disk Management of current status.

Right now, at this working stage, System Restore is turned off for all
drives.

 

[Gerry Cornell]

Terry

I don't think your post about your boot.ini has any bearing to the
original question you raised about used space in your H partition.

I have read the copy of your boot.ini file and to me it looks wrong if I
understand what you are trying to achieve. I take it you want the
default to be to boot to your C drive but to have a 5 second opportunity
to choose to boot to your backup operating system. However, I would have
expected it to look more like a dual boot ini than it does. I am unsure
about the references to the recovery console having never noticed such
appendages in a boot.ini file.

Unfortunately my knowledge on more complicated boot.ini files is limited
and I am watching the other conversation to see what advice works.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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