BOOTMGR is Missing

[Guest]

I just installed RC1, but when i restart, if the DVD is not in the drive, it
says

BOOTMGR is Missing
Press CTRL+ALT+DEL To Restart

Any suggestions as too what it is? I was thinking maybe it was the registry
messing up on boot selection.

 

[Tom Ziegmann]

Have you tried using Startup Repair? If not, insert your DVD into your computer and boot from the DVD. Then once setup loads click on Windows Recovery Options down in the left hand corner of the window and then click on Startup Repair. If that does not work the only suggestion I have is to backup your data, if possible, and then reinstall doing a clean install.

 

[Guest]

Tried both of those options already. What makes no sense is if it detects the
DVD, and you just leave it and let it boot, works fine. Remove the DVD and it
doesnt work period.

 

[Tom Ziegmann]

That is very interesting...I would suggest filing a bug report with MS, make it public so that I can keep an eye on it for you and I see what information I can come up with in the mean time.

 

[Guest]

THanks for the help man, its appreciated.

That is very interesting...I would suggest filing a bug report with MS, make it public so that I can keep an eye on it for you and I see what information I can come up with in the mean time.

--
Tom Ziegmann
Microsoft Certified Professional
Windows Vista / Server Longhorn TechBeta Tester
Windows Server 2003 SP2 TechBeta Tester

 

[Chad Harris]

Red--

I wondered if you are using a dual boot and if so, was XP installed first?

I sure would have tried Startup Repair as Tom suggested and you have. You
might also repair this by using a gui interface for the BCEDIT utiilty here:

http://www.vistabootpro.org/

http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/post-580795.html&sid=9f93849fb3dad5edd85df3d19778e44f

Also this reference may help you:

Windows Vista no longer starts after you install an earlier version of the
Windows operating system in a dual-boot configuration

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529/en-us

See also for ref:

Boot Configuration Data Editor Frequently Asked QuestionsBoot Configuration
Data Editor Frequently Asked Questions

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/library/85cd5efe-c349-427c-b035-c2719d4af778.mspx

Edit the Windows Vista Boot Menu Options

http://www.vistamania.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=167&Itemid=34

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/driver/tips/Debug_Vista.mspx

Good luck.

Ch

 

[John Barnes]

Start with the DVD and when in Vista, go to disk management and look on your
drives for the Boot file (make sure you can see hidden and system files).
When you have found it, make sure that it is the active partition and the
first drive in boot priority in your BIOS. Your MBR is pointing to a drive
that doesn't have the boot file on it.

 

[Guest]

Well, i figured out part of the problem.

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=D:
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
resumeobject {c2b688f5-4528-11db-8f7a-91fb6660ed8e}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Microsoft Windows Vista
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
bootdebug No
custom:16000048 Yes
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {65f26197-4533-11db-ab71-bc8045be3a8e}
nx OptIn
pae ForceDisable
nointegritychecks No
sos No
debug No
custom:47000005 301989892
3

Its looking on D:, my other hard drive for the bootmgr. I cant figure out
how to change this though, any ideas?

 

[Roof Fiddler]

Well, i figured out part of the problem. [snip]
Its looking on D:, my other hard drive for the bootmgr. I cant figure out
how to change this though, any ideas?

I had a similar problem which I was able to solve, so maybe this will help:
I have a slow 30GB PATA drive and a fast 300GB SATA drive, both of which I
wiped prior to installing Vista. I forgot that in my BIOS, I had the PATA
rather than the SATA drive set as bootable (though I don't know whether this
caused or even influenced my problem). I installed Vista RC1 from scratch,
specifying the 300GB drive. After installing Vista with no problems, I
discovered that when I set my BIOS to boot from the 300GB drive (where Vista
was installed) rather than the 30GB drive, the BIOS would fail to load
Vista, giving a "non system disk or disk error" message.
Setting the boot drive back to the 30GB drive so that Vista would boot, I
checked Control Panel/Admin Tools/Computer Management/Disk Management and
discovered that my 30GB drive was set as Active and Boot, and the 300GB
drive wasn't. I then noticed that the 30GB drive had data on it, even though
I'd not put anything there. It had bootmgr and the boot directory, neither
of which the 300GB drive had (though the latter had the entire Vista
installation).
To fix the problem, I moved bootmgr and the boot directory to the 300GB
drive, marked the latter as active using Disk Management, shut down the
system, set the 300GB drive as the boot drive in the BIOS again, booted off
the Vista RC1 DVD and ran the startup repairer, and then rebooted... and
this time, Vista booted successfully directly off the 300GB drive.

 

[Guest]

I'll give it a shot and see what i can do. I'm thinking of just turning off
my 2nd hd, disconnecting it entirely, and reinstalling Vista.

My new challaenge is getting my soundcard to work without crackling.

Well, i figured out part of the problem. [snip]
Its looking on D:, my other hard drive for the bootmgr. I cant figure out
how to change this though, any ideas?

I had a similar problem which I was able to solve, so maybe this will help:
I have a slow 30GB PATA drive and a fast 300GB SATA drive, both of which I
wiped prior to installing Vista. I forgot that in my BIOS, I had the PATA
rather than the SATA drive set as bootable (though I don't know whether this
caused or even influenced my problem). I installed Vista RC1 from scratch,
specifying the 300GB drive. After installing Vista with no problems, I
discovered that when I set my BIOS to boot from the 300GB drive (where Vista
was installed) rather than the 30GB drive, the BIOS would fail to load
Vista, giving a "non system disk or disk error" message.
Setting the boot drive back to the 30GB drive so that Vista would boot, I
checked Control Panel/Admin Tools/Computer Management/Disk Management and
discovered that my 30GB drive was set as Active and Boot, and the 300GB
drive wasn't. I then noticed that the 30GB drive had data on it, even though
I'd not put anything there. It had bootmgr and the boot directory, neither
of which the 300GB drive had (though the latter had the entire Vista
installation).
To fix the problem, I moved bootmgr and the boot directory to the 300GB
drive, marked the latter as active using Disk Management, shut down the
system, set the 300GB drive as the boot drive in the BIOS again, booted off
the Vista RC1 DVD and ran the startup repairer, and then rebooted... and
this time, Vista booted successfully directly off the 300GB drive.

 

[Guest]

I finally fixed the problem on my PC!
Here's what I did:
-Boot off the Vista DVD
-Dropped to command prompt
-Copied the BOOT folder off my dvd to all my hard drives (C & D, vista's on D)
-Ran <dvd drive>:\boot\bootsect /nt60 all /force to update my boot info
-ran <vista drive>:\windows\system32\bdcedit /createstore to create a store
of bcd info
-ran bcdedit /create /d "Windows Vista" /application osloaderto add my vista
hdd to the bcd
-rebooted, just to be safe
-booted back to the dvd and ran the system recovery thing that says 'repair
and reboot' and then everything was peachy

i may have run the bootsect thing again before the last reboot. hope this
helps!!

I'll give it a shot and see what i can do. I'm thinking of just turning off
my 2nd hd, disconnecting it entirely, and reinstalling Vista.

My new challaenge is getting my soundcard to work without crackling.

Well, i figured out part of the problem. [snip]
Its looking on D:, my other hard drive for the bootmgr. I cant figure out
how to change this though, any ideas?

I had a similar problem which I was able to solve, so maybe this will help:
I have a slow 30GB PATA drive and a fast 300GB SATA drive, both of which I
wiped prior to installing Vista. I forgot that in my BIOS, I had the PATA
rather than the SATA drive set as bootable (though I don't know whether this
caused or even influenced my problem). I installed Vista RC1 from scratch,
specifying the 300GB drive. After installing Vista with no problems, I
discovered that when I set my BIOS to boot from the 300GB drive (where Vista
was installed) rather than the 30GB drive, the BIOS would fail to load
Vista, giving a "non system disk or disk error" message.
Setting the boot drive back to the 30GB drive so that Vista would boot, I
checked Control Panel/Admin Tools/Computer Management/Disk Management and
discovered that my 30GB drive was set as Active and Boot, and the 300GB
drive wasn't. I then noticed that the 30GB drive had data on it, even though
I'd not put anything there. It had bootmgr and the boot directory, neither
of which the 300GB drive had (though the latter had the entire Vista
installation).
To fix the problem, I moved bootmgr and the boot directory to the 300GB
drive, marked the latter as active using Disk Management, shut down the
system, set the 300GB drive as the boot drive in the BIOS again, booted off
the Vista RC1 DVD and ran the startup repairer, and then rebooted... and
this time, Vista booted successfully directly off the 300GB drive.

 

[Guest]

I finally fixed the problem on my PC!
Here's what I did:
-Boot off the Vista DVD
-Dropped to command prompt
-Copied the BOOT folder off my dvd to all my hard drives (C & D, vista's on D)
-Ran <dvd drive>:\boot\bootsect /nt60 all /force to update my boot info
-ran <vista drive>:\windows\system32\bdcedit /createstore to create a store
of bcd info
-ran bcdedit /create /d "Windows Vista" /application osloaderto add my vista
hdd to the bcd
-rebooted, just to be safe
-booted back to the dvd and ran the system recovery thing that says 'repair
and reboot' and then everything was peachy

i may have run the bootsect thing again before the last reboot. hope this
helps!!

I'll give it a shot and see what i can do. I'm thinking of just turning off
my 2nd hd, disconnecting it entirely, and reinstalling Vista.

My new challaenge is getting my soundcard to work without crackling.

Well, i figured out part of the problem. [snip]
Its looking on D:, my other hard drive for the bootmgr. I cant figure out
how to change this though, any ideas?

I had a similar problem which I was able to solve, so maybe this will help:
I have a slow 30GB PATA drive and a fast 300GB SATA drive, both of which I
wiped prior to installing Vista. I forgot that in my BIOS, I had the PATA
rather than the SATA drive set as bootable (though I don't know whether this
caused or even influenced my problem). I installed Vista RC1 from scratch,
specifying the 300GB drive. After installing Vista with no problems, I
discovered that when I set my BIOS to boot from the 300GB drive (where Vista
was installed) rather than the 30GB drive, the BIOS would fail to load
Vista, giving a "non system disk or disk error" message.
Setting the boot drive back to the 30GB drive so that Vista would boot, I
checked Control Panel/Admin Tools/Computer Management/Disk Management and
discovered that my 30GB drive was set as Active and Boot, and the 300GB
drive wasn't. I then noticed that the 30GB drive had data on it, even though
I'd not put anything there. It had bootmgr and the boot directory, neither
of which the 300GB drive had (though the latter had the entire Vista
installation).
To fix the problem, I moved bootmgr and the boot directory to the 300GB
drive, marked the latter as active using Disk Management, shut down the
system, set the 300GB drive as the boot drive in the BIOS again, booted off
the Vista RC1 DVD and ran the startup repairer, and then rebooted... and
this time, Vista booted successfully directly off the 300GB drive.

 

[Guest]

doesn't look like the last post worked. trying again...

I finally fixed the problem on my PC!
Here's what I did:
-Boot off the Vista DVD
-Dropped to command prompt
-Copied the BOOT folder off my dvd to all my hard drives (C & D, vista's on D)
-Ran <dvd drive>:\boot\bootsect /nt60 all /force to update my boot info
-ran <vista drive>:\windows\system32\bdcedit /createstore to create a store
of bcd info
-ran bcdedit /create /d "Windows Vista" /application osloaderto add my vista
hdd to the bcd
-rebooted, just to be safe
-booted back to the dvd and ran the system recovery thing that says 'repair
and reboot' and then everything was peachy

i may have run the bootsect thing again before the last reboot. hope this
helps!!

I'll give it a shot and see what i can do. I'm thinking of just turning off
my 2nd hd, disconnecting it entirely, and reinstalling Vista.

My new challaenge is getting my soundcard to work without crackling.

Well, i figured out part of the problem. [snip]
Its looking on D:, my other hard drive for the bootmgr. I cant figure out
how to change this though, any ideas?

I had a similar problem which I was able to solve, so maybe this will help:
I have a slow 30GB PATA drive and a fast 300GB SATA drive, both of which I
wiped prior to installing Vista. I forgot that in my BIOS, I had the PATA
rather than the SATA drive set as bootable (though I don't know whether this
caused or even influenced my problem). I installed Vista RC1 from scratch,
specifying the 300GB drive. After installing Vista with no problems, I
discovered that when I set my BIOS to boot from the 300GB drive (where Vista
was installed) rather than the 30GB drive, the BIOS would fail to load
Vista, giving a "non system disk or disk error" message.
Setting the boot drive back to the 30GB drive so that Vista would boot, I
checked Control Panel/Admin Tools/Computer Management/Disk Management and
discovered that my 30GB drive was set as Active and Boot, and the 300GB
drive wasn't. I then noticed that the 30GB drive had data on it, even though
I'd not put anything there. It had bootmgr and the boot directory, neither
of which the 300GB drive had (though the latter had the entire Vista
installation).
To fix the problem, I moved bootmgr and the boot directory to the 300GB
drive, marked the latter as active using Disk Management, shut down the
system, set the 300GB drive as the boot drive in the BIOS again, booted off
the Vista RC1 DVD and ran the startup repairer, and then rebooted... and
this time, Vista booted successfully directly off the 300GB drive.

 

[Guest]

I do also have the same problem.
But it was my own fault! ops.

I did install vista rc1, and thats the only OS on my system. System files
were in c:, but i did select drive d: as the active drive, and there is
nothing in it. Now i cant boot up vista. I have tried different ways, but
nothing works. Any tips? (currently ordering a vista rc1 cd from microsoft,
hope it helps. As my own vista DVD dont)
I dont know what to do replacing HD?

 

[John Barnes]

Please do not use drive letters as they are irrelevant at this point.
Please describe the setup. Drive numbers and partition numbers. ie drive 0
partition 1 what is it?
How did you start RC1 if your DVD doesn't work.
Make sure that the partition with the Vista Boot file on it is on the first
hdd in your boot priority in the BIOS and that it is the active partiton.
If you made any changes to boot priority afer installing Vista, undo them.

 

[Guest]

Hi, thank you for your fast answer. I did run the vista setup from my
computer.. no dvd as i didnt have any left

But i have resolved the problem myself and iam now a little more experienced.

Thank you, iam happy