BIOS Problem ?

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briwy

I have an MSI K7N2G board with an Athlon 2400 usually running at 1997Mhz
If I change an IDE drive (even unplugging it and then plugging in again)
the speed drops to around 1500Mhz and the CPU shows as a 1800+
Reflashing the BIOS resets it to 1997MHz again OK but this seems a bit weird
Any ideas please on how to stop this as I change drives depending on what OS
I want and what the machine is being used for.
TIA
Brian
 
K

kony

I have an MSI K7N2G board with an Athlon 2400 usually running at 1997Mhz
If I change an IDE drive (even unplugging it and then plugging in again)
the speed drops to around 1500Mhz and the CPU shows as a 1800+
Reflashing the BIOS resets it to 1997MHz again OK but this seems a bit weird
Any ideas please on how to stop this as I change drives depending on what OS
I want and what the machine is being used for.
TIA
Brian

That's a very unusual problem.
It would seem that your system is reverting to 100MHz (DDR200) FSB
instead of 133MHz. Is there a jumper onboard to select FSB speed?

Are you sure it isn't because you're unplugging the system prior to
changing drives, that if you unplugged the system for same amount of
time but didn't change drives, there'd still be this problem? If
unplugging the system causes it, replace the battery.

What exactly do you mean when you wrote "reflashing the bios resets
it"? Do you mean clearing the CMOS by the jumper or entering the BIOS
setup and using keyboard to set correct speed?


Dave
 
B

briwy

The FSB stays at 133 ok, doesn't alter at all.
Definitely changed unless the machine is off.
I don't mean unplugging the machine from the supply, just unplugging the
drive.
By reflahing the BIOS I mean using the MSI update to flash the latest BIOS.
I have wondered about the battery, but I can't see why unplugging a drive
should do this. However I'll get one and change it anyway.
Brian
 
K

kony

The FSB stays at 133 ok, doesn't alter at all.

Well either the FSB or the multiplier changed if it's then running as
an XP1800, and since the difference between 100MHz and 133MHz is the
different between operating frequency of an XP1800 and your CPU, that
would make the most sense. If the PLLIC chip has a watchdog timer
function and the system failed to post on the first attempt (a 2nd
attempt may be automatic, not necessarily initiated by you) then it
may revent to the lowest supported FSB speed, even if the BIOS still
shows the original or default CPU speed. If you were to let the
system boot to windows you might see what multiplier and FSB is being
used with a utility like "WCPUID" (can be found via Google search).

Definitely changed unless the machine is off.

I don't know what you mean, more elaboration might help.
I don't mean unplugging the machine from the supply, just unplugging the
drive.

So the system is trying to post with a drive disconnected from both
the power and IDE cables. or only one or the other? You are changing
the jumpers for the drive(s) as needed or using cable select? When
only one drive is used on an 80-conductor cable it should be on the
end of the cable.

By reflahing the BIOS I mean using the MSI update to flash the latest BIOS.

That seems unnecessary, a CMOS reset should resolve it if everything
else is in order.


I have wondered about the battery, but I can't see why unplugging a drive
should do this. However I'll get one and change it anyway.

If it's only the drive being unplugged, it's not the battery that's to
blame. If clearing the CMOS doesn't resolve the problem (each time it
happens) then try clearing it with the power supply unplugged from the
wall, and/or pull the battery too.. it should not ever be necessary to
reflash the board just to get back to the default state.. if all else
fails and you still need flash the board i'd "guess" it's a hardware
fault and that the board needs replaced, but there's really
insufficient evidence to conclude that at this point.



Dave
 
B

briwy

Dave. Thanks for all the suggestions
managed to get a new battery today. Problems solved although it still seems
strange to me. Time will tell
Thanks
Brian
 

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