Bios flash without flasher

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p.mc

I believe you are facing a display adaptor driver issue, not a BIOS
issue, however you did not specify what the "upgrade" was. That would be
salient information in assisting you.

Steve N.

Fomatted HDD with Win 98 on...And fresh install of WinXP Pro SP2
 
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p.mc

Rick "Nutcase" Rogers said:
I would suggest that you copy the .rom file to the floppy and use that. If
C:\ is formatted as NTFS, then the boot floppy will not be able to read from
it.

Thats's what I did after making a floppy using drdflash, but when in DOS
mode I didn't know what to type after the command prompt A:\ I couldn't find
a flash installer utility to help me .
 
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p.mc

It is unlikely that the computers BIOS is the cause, read the notes that
go
with that update- does it say it fixes Display driver issues? It should
advise what the changes are.

No info with Flash
Start by getting your graphics card drivers. Install them. Then try and
change the resolution. That process does not have much to do with a computer
BIOS update. It seems from what you have described that you either do not
have your graphics card driver installed, or that it isn't correctly
configured.

That's my next move, you were right the device manager is showing no drivers
installed for;

"Multimedia Audio Controller"
"Multimedia Video controller"
"PCI Simple Communications Controller"
"Video Controller (VGA Compatible)

I don't have any drivers at all, I'll go to MOBO manuf site and DL them (the
sound and video are onboard)


Regards
p.mc
 
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p.mc

Trying to flash the BIOS -- WITHOUT the flasher -- by HAND -- when you are
not even sure the BIOS NEEDS flashing -- is a VERY DUMB IDEA.

"Above all, do no harm."

'Nuff Said.

DSH

Why do you think I am posting here! We all learn by making mistakes, but
with the
kind help from the groups, it might be avoided.
 
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p.mc

Does the new bios address this problem? BTW. I created the drdflash.exe
file.
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"Thanks for the drdflash"
I haven't done the flash yet...(just incase I kill the machine)

Regards
p.mc
 
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Alan

Thanks for yours and for Tom's comments- I must have just bypassed/ignored
his last comments. If that was representative of him I do understand why.



Heather said:
He is a *disliked denizen* of the mediaeval genealogy news
groups.....patronizing and totally boring. Never thought I would see him
on any help groups.

As he would say...."how amusing".

Cheers....Figgs

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
From what I've seen over the past couple of weeks, he is a troll.

Tom
Alan said:
I don't see any advice to the OP from you.

Are you a troll or do you have any help to offer?

It seems the first at the moment so perhaps you should crawl back under
your bridge- unless you can help with the posters question?


I see a potential disaster shaping up here.

It's like watching a team of slightly inebriated surgeons on vacation
in
Miami telling a layman in Chicago by telephone how to take out his own
appendix.

DSH
 
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Alan

p.mc said:
I have no drivers at all
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Regards
p.mc


Which goes right back to a point made a few times.

Your Video card won't change its capabilities by changing the machines BIOS.

You are at risk of making your machine unusable if something goes wrong with
a BIOS upgrade.

Stop messing around. Get and install your video drivers.

See if the machine does what you want at that stage. If it doesn't then let
us know what it doesn't do that you want, and confirm that the drivers are
installed properly and that you can change the resolution/colours it
displays.
 
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D. Spencer Hines

Yep.

Changing the BIOS by hand, or at all, without knowing what you are doing
would be insane -- as I stated previously.

Install the video drivers.

Sheeeeeesh!

He has a video problem -- so the first thing he wants to do is flash the
BIOS -- because once upon a time that worked for him on another machine.

P. T. Barnum was right.

DSH
 
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Stan Brown

He is a *disliked denizen* of the mediaeval genealogy news
groups.....patronizing and totally boring. Never thought I would see
him on any help groups.

Not just genealogy groups -- I can't remember the whole list of
others in which I'd killfiled him.

I was surprised to see him show up here asking for help, but not
surprised that it took only about three interchanges for him to show
his true colors.
 
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p.mc

You haven't gone to the manufacturers web site because.................
http://www.pcchips.com.tw/pccweb/index.aspx?MenuID=0&LanID=2

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User


Forgive me for being ignorant but because what??????????????????
Are you refering to the link I gave to the MOBO specs page and confusing it
with the MOBO Web site?
I know the link you provided, I've been there numerous times!! I just added
the MOBO link to let helpers know the full spec.

Please feel free to elaborate MVP. Please take time to read all the relevant
information before you give a negative, Ha !Ha! youve got it wrong response.

p.mc
 
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Richard Urban

You didn't say that you had gone to the manufacturers web site and that is
always the very first place you should look. Information "does" help when
you are asking a question, along with ALL of what you have already tried.
This keeps people, who may be trying to help you, from duplicating your
efforts. Had I known that you had already been there, I would not have even
posted the link.

If the manufacturer has dropped support for your ancient M/B there is
nothing much you can do, except hope that someone can send you the drivers
that you need.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
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Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)

I will elaborate..

Your computer is too old to support XP.. PCChips gave up on it after the
demise of Windows ME.. BIOS upgrades do not turn an aging Socket 7 board
into anything other than an aging Socket 7 board..

If one can't find reference to a motherboard on the manufacturer website, it
is time to throw it away or resign to using an older OS on it..
DriverGuide.com have Windows 98/ME drivers that 'may' work if you are
desperate to keep it running.. these drivers will NOT work with XP, btw..
 
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James E Middleton

You mentioned the BIOS is from 1995, almost 11 years old, that would make
the board 11-12 years old. You also mentioned going from '98 to XP. If that
was the start of the problem, without installing the chipset drivers and
device drivers, that's probably the issue. I'm suprised that there are no
generic drivers on the XP CD that take care of your devices, although I
wouldn't expect to find every chipset driver, there are many generic drivers
in the CD to get you up and running.

To start with, the CD Rom that came with your motherboard. It should have
the drivers for the sound and video. If you can at least get up and running
with those, you'll be in better shape than now. A better fix would be to get
the latest drivers from the manufacturer's site.

As others have mentioned, it's most likely a driver, not a BIOS issue. If
you can get the system running without flashing the BIOS, it'd be better,
since a mistake could be costly. But an 11 year old BIOS...
 

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