Bios change and ask for new activation

[Public posting]

Can you give a URL or other source document identification to
substantiate that claim?

I don't go around collecting every Microsoft link I see, sorry. Especially
over periods of years.

But yes, I've read that they said it didn't work as well as expected. They
didn't come out and say "we screwed up" or anything drastic like that, but
it wasn't entirely positive.

You can also go back to the older days and see how they started changing
their statements when the working cracks and keygens appeared. In the
begining they were talking about all piracy and that it'd make it completely
impossible, etc. etc., and since then they've been changing it every 6
months or so.

And they didn't make any more warez keys invalid in sp2, like they did with
sp1, which is a bit of admission on their part that blocking warez keys
doesn't help. That it's trivial to run a keygen to make a new key.

And they tried changing the activation in sp1 to make the warez keygens stop
working and to stop piracy. But it didn't.

And they are changing WindowsUpdate to *always* verify your key and
activation before allowing you to download any updates. That right there is
saying pretty clearly that the previous stuff didn't work. (And actually,
this isn't going to work either. It'll just mean the warez copies wont get
patched, which means massively unsecure computers will be on the net
throughout the world.)

And they certainly didn't want to do a reduced price version of XP. They
fought that idea. But they've ended up doing the starter edition solely to
combat piracy. If activation had worked like they claimed it would, there
wouldn't be any piracy of XP in the world.

My information is that "casual piracy" has been reduced substantially
since the introduction of product activation.

In the begining, they said the main focus was on the real piracy.

It was only after working cracks and keygens started apearing that they
changed to saying "casual piracy". This was pointed out in several online
news sites. Because a lot of people suddenly started wondering why they
were focusing on the casual person instead of the professionals who were
causing far more piracy than all the casual users combined.

 

[Alex Nichol]

I have a Sony Vaio RX550 I just changed the bios to a newer version from the
motherboard manufacture. It works great, but now Windows XP want to
reactivate my computer but the OEM Product Key wont work. Can anyone help? My
guess it's because I'm not using the SONY bios update which is three version
behind the motherboard.

Sony will use the technique of locking the system to BIOS rather than
using activation. If you were to do a reinstall using the Product key
supplied on the label it *ought* to go into regular activation mode and
allow you to do that on the net. But Sony may be setting the setup up
in ways of their own. The proper action is always to get a BIOS flash
for such machines *from the maker of the machine* not of the
motherboard, when the problem will not arise. And if they appear to be
behind the makers accept that they may have reason given the way the
board is implemented in their design

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Please cite the source for "That's certainly what Microsoft was
originally saying. And when Microsoft started changing their tune..."
You avoided the request last post!
I saw a lot of 3rd party sites that said that, usually Microsoft
critics, but never from Microsoft.

"Really? Is that why Microsoft has finally grudgingly given in and
decided to start selling a reduced price starter version? Because all
that "casual piracy" was eliminated?"
Check you source on this as well ad determine exactly where this will
be sold.
The other half of the truth is also relevant.

The "typical user" I refer are a large % of computer users.
They are not "brainless newbie" as you seem to think.
Perhaps that is more your problem than anyone else's?
Interesting how you consider such a large group of people as
"brainless".
Your superiority attitude shows very clearly here.

"But it's not Microsoft's place to say what we can or can't do with
our hardware."
Microsoft doesn't as much as the OEM since the OEM has chosen the
method to use.
However Microsoft wrote the EULA which the user agrees.
If the EULA is unacceptable, return it.
Why do you feel Microsoft has all the responsibility and the OEMs have
no responsibility?
A BIOS locked motherboard is done by the OEM and there is nothing
Microsoft could do even if Microsoft wanted.
Or do you want Microsoft putting MORE controls on what the OEMs do?
I suppose Microsoft could do it, but I am under the impression many
already feel Microsoft already controls to much.
You should research this so you know a little about it.

Hopefully you are voicing your concerns in a forum appropriate.
Since this is a peer to peer newsgroup and is not officially monitored
by Microsoft, your complaints may never be seen by someone who can do
something about it.

 

[Guest]

You need use the COA key on the machine's chasis. Simply go to the activation
wizard, choose telephone activation and then click on the change product key
button on the lower right corner. Enter the product key and then go back to
the main wizard screen and activation online. Of course you can elect to
activate telephone but it is not necessary. The original OEM key in the
system will not allow you to activate online and therefore this new key entry
is necessary.

Thanks!

Ning

 

[Guest]

You need use the COA key on the machine's chasis. Simply go to the activation
wizard, choose telephone activation and then click on the change product key
button on the lower right corner. Enter the product key and then go back to
the main wizard screen and activation online. Of course you can elect to
activate telephone but it is not necessary. The original OEM key in the
system will not allow you to activate online and therefore this new key entry
is necessary.

Thanks!

Ning

 

[Guest]

You need use the COA key on the machine's chasis. Simply go to the activation
wizard, choose telephone activation and then click on the change product key
button on the lower right corner. Enter the product key and then go back to
the main wizard screen and activation online. Of course you can elect to
activate telephone but it is not necessary. The original OEM key in the
system will not allow you to activate online and therefore this new key entry
is necessary.

Thanks!

Ning

 

[Guest]

Hey Guys!

Thanks huys I was really looking for a keygen or iso version of anything.
Its not that I woun'l buy one, but that I really don't have the time to
working into gomdomg and psying for spme thing. Bit as far as paying
something, I'm just going for a free uphrade or full version of Office 2005
iso corporate edition. If anyone could help me out, I will promisrto return
the favor to somene else. I'm about to fall asleep, so let me know soon cause
I'm in need of a Office 2004, SBserver 2004, or NAV 2005 corp iso. I was
checking out sa couple of the sites mentioned in this thread and I found a
complete verson of Win XP Pro iso with keygen ! I'm going to download it now
and intall it tomorrow. I promise to post the results very shortly...

Take care... and food nite...

Andy