Bigger Drive... How do I..?

[Trilux]

Hi gang. I'm putting a bigger drive in my computer. Going from an 80Gb to a
160Gb.

Would like to split it in two logical drives: one of 40Gb and the other for
the balance.

What I'm trying to avoid is the pain of reinstalling Windoze AND all the
software and settings and emails and all the other stuff I already have--not
to mention having to go through the eternal download-reboot-download-reboot
to install all Windows' upgrades.

Is there a painless way of doing that?

Like, backup everything, restore on the new drive and I'm all set?

TIA

 

[Alan White]

You would need to buy a 3rd party software such as Norton Ghost to make a
mirror copy of your existing HD.
Windows will enable you to partition your new HD.

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

You may wish to visit the support website of the manufacturer of your
new hard drive and see if they have a free utility program that you can use to
accomplish this task. For example, if you have a new Western Digital drive,
you can download their free Data Lifeguard Tools which includes "drive-to-drive
copy capability" (Ref: http://support.wdc.com/download/).

Fujitsu
http://www.fcpa.fujitsu.com/download/hard-drives/#diagnostic

IBM and Hitachi
http://www.hgst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#DFT

Maxtor
http://www.maxtor.com/en/support/products/index.htm

Seagate
http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/index.html

Western Digital
http://support.wdc.com/download/
www.westerndigital.com

Or you can purchase Norton Ghost and create an "image"
of your old hard drive:

Norton Ghost 2003
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/ghost_personal/

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
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| Hi gang. I'm putting a bigger drive in my computer. Going from an 80Gb to a
| 160Gb.
|
| Would like to split it in two logical drives: one of 40Gb and the other for
| the balance.
|
| What I'm trying to avoid is the pain of reinstalling Windows AND all the
| software and settings and emails and all the other stuff I already have--not
| to mention having to go through the eternal download-reboot-download-reboot
| to install all Windows' upgrades.
|
| Is there a painless way of doing that?
|
| Like, backup everything, restore on the new drive and I'm all set?
|
| TIA

 

[Trilux]

Gee guys... you're fast! Posted a few minutes ago and already 2 replies.

OK, I do have Norton Ghost. Came with my Norton Systemworks 2003

But I'm told that if I use it to make a copy of an 80Gb drive, it will copy
*everything* including the partitions and I'll wind up with another 80Gb
drive when I want to use the 160... is that the usual metropolitan legend?

Also, I do have a WD and I do have the formatting utility. Will it do the
trick?

Thanks gang, much appreciated.

 

[Guest]

Youre best bet,1st dont try the oem utilities,they dont copy xp 99.99% of the
time,use XCOPY, set the new hd as slave,in xp (useing old hd),go to run,type:
diskmgmt.msc R.click on the unpartitioned space,select format,specify the
size you want,do the same for rest of hd.When youre thru,with a primary part-
ition,close out,go to run type:XCOPY C:\*.* D:\ /c/h/e/k/r In the DOS
window
agree to all,when it ends youre done.Also,if boot up in new drive is a
problem,
boot to xp cd,install xp,repair this copy of xp.D: being the new hd
letter,although
whatever its assigned will work.

 

[Timothy Daniels]

OK, I do have Norton Ghost. Came with my Norton Systemworks 2003

But I'm told that if I use it to make a copy of an 80Gb drive, it will copy
*everything* including the partitions and I'll wind up with another 80Gb
drive when I want to use the 160... is that the usual metropolitan legend?

Also, I do have a WD and I do have the formatting utility. Will it do the
trick?

If the old Ghost is like PowerQuest's Drive Image 7, you can copy
the Local Disk (i.e. partition) that you choose to either the partition
on the new HD that you specify or to unallocated space on the
new HD. If the old system occupies an 80GB partition, that is
what will be copied to the new HD's unallocated space. If you
have Partition Magic, however, you can shrink the old system's
partition down to whatever you want, and then just copy that over
to the new HD. Partition Magic will show you graphically how
much of the old system's partition is really being used, and you
can shrink the partition down to that much (plus a couple GBs for
wiggle room). Once the minimal partition is copied over to the
new HD, you can adjust its size up again with Partition Magic.
Whatever way you go, you needn't format the partition on the
new HD since the formatting is copied over, too. Just be sure
to tell the imaging utility to copy to a primary partition and to
copy over the MBR (Master Boot Record) as well.

Before booting up the new WinXP for the 1st time, though,
disconnect the old HD so that it's invisible to the new WinXP
or pointers will be set on the new WinXP that point back to
files in the old WinXP. Thereafter, the new WinXP can be
booted in the presence of the old WinXP without complications.

You can put the new HD in the previous cable position of the
old HD and jumpered as the old HD was. The old HD can
be jumpered oppositely. Or you can use Cable Select and
let the controller set the Master/Slave roles. In operation,
though, it doesn't matter which HD is Master or Slave, just
that they're not the same. If you put the new HD in the same
role as the old HD had, though, you don't have to adjust the
boot sequence in the BIOS to have the new HD always boot
up. If you want the system on the old HD to boot up, all you
have to do is to reverse the order of the 2 HDs in the BIOS'
boot sequence.

*TimDaniels*

 

[Trilux]

Tried Xcopy.
Sorry to say, doesn't work: copies some four files--autoexec.bat, config.sys
and a couple of others, then stops with a "Sharing violation" error.

 

[Trilux]

Well, tried Norton Ghost, no go. Windows doesn't recognize anything and when
I put in the installation CD won't "repair" sends me to the so-called
"Recovery console" that is just a C: prompt.

Tried XCopy. Copies some four files, then it's all over: sharing violation.

Tried WD's disk copy. Copies everything, but Windows won't start and when
asked to "repair" same thing as above.

In essence, Windows is behaving as its usual crap and I'm forced to
reinstall everything. From the OS to every single program, then recover my
email, and reenter each and every setting from passwords to icons and screen
locations.

Major pain in the butt. Last time I did it, took me an entire week-end. Two
solid days.I'd undertand if Windows demanded a clean installation on a new
computer. But, when the computer stays the same, there ought to be a way to
simply back up everything and restore it in another disk.

Oh, well... thanks for the advice. But, if someone from Microsoft ever reads
this stuff, should really look into making people's life easier instead of
complicating it unnecessarily.

 

[Timothy Daniels]

Well, tried Norton Ghost, no go. Windows doesn't recognize
anything and when I put in the installation CD won't "repair"
sends me to the so-called "Recovery console" that is just a
C: prompt.

I'm not familiar with the old Ghost, but the new Ghost 9.0
is virtually PowerQuest's Drive Image 7.2, and that works
fine on my PC. It does require the MS Framework 1.1
to be installed for it to work, though.

Tried XCopy. Copies some four files, then it's all over:
sharing violation.

Have you tried xxCopy? Check it out for free download
at www.xxCopy.com . (Please note the double x's.)

*TimDaniels*

 

[PA20Pilot]

Hi,

............Well, tried Norton Ghost, no go.......Windows doesn't
recognize anything.......

What exactly do you mean by that? Did you use Ghosts clone option? I
make exact duplicates of my drives every week. If you can be specific
about what is or is not working, and the messages involved, maybe
there's an easier way than a total reinstall.



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[Roger Burton]

Try this for size:

First off purchase Norton Ghost 9 & Partition Magic 8 in a bundle from
Symantec.
Then install both products to your old drive, you'll need to burn an ISO of
the Ghost zip file to install it.
Then install your new drive as a slave to IDE1, leaving your old drive
activated and in place.
Format your new drive to NTFS if on XP and leave it as a single drive,
inactivated.
Use Ghost to image your old drive and place the image on your new drive,
defragment the drive before you ghost it.
Then use partition magic to split your new drive into parts.
The image you made will be on one of the partitions you created.
Make the "empty" partition active, deactivate your original C: drive,
finally re-install the ghost image to the active empty drive, now c:
Remove the original drive if you wish.

Good luck
R