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Guest
Has it been mentioned if the beta testers are going to get a final RTM
version of Vista?
version of Vista?
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Andre Da Costa [Extended64]
No, Microsoft makes no guarantees that you will get a final copy of Windows
Vista. You test Windows Vista voluntararily for the benefit of you and you
organization.
Vista. You test Windows Vista voluntararily for the benefit of you and you
organization.
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Alexander Suhovey
-----Original Message-----
BTW, Microsoft is giving away Vista/Office gift certs at 'Platform 2007'
IT conference in Moscow in mid-december. It's around $200 to participate
in conference. No details though on editions that will be offered.
Wanna visit Moscow?
http://www.microsoft.com/Rus/Platform2007/
BTW, Microsoft is giving away Vista/Office gift certs at 'Platform 2007'
IT conference in Moscow in mid-december. It's around $200 to participate
in conference. No details though on editions that will be offered.
Wanna visit Moscow?
http://www.microsoft.com/Rus/Platform2007/
A
Andre Da Costa [Extended64]
The plane fair could buy me 20 copies of Vista Ultimate, so I will pass. 
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry
Alexander Suhovey said:
BTW, Microsoft is giving away Vista/Office gift certs at 'Platform 2007'
IT conference in Moscow in mid-december. It's around $200 to participate
in conference. No details though on editions that will be offered.
Wanna visit Moscow?
http://www.microsoft.com/Rus/Platform2007/
R
Ricky
I would really like to see Microsoft pull names out of a hat and give away a
couple of hundred copies.
That way we could all see Kevin scream, cry and kick his heals against the
floor when he doesn't get one. Just FYI (-:
couple of hundred copies.
That way we could all see Kevin scream, cry and kick his heals against the
floor when he doesn't get one. Just FYI (-:
S
SAM-R
But Kevin will have Vista Gold with in the next few days through MSDN.
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Chad Harris
SAM-R said:
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Kevin John Panzke
Your Post seems to be Missing, Chad, Just FYI.
K
Kevin John Panzke
Looks Like Chad Got Banned, Just FYI!Kevin said:
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Nina DiBoy
Kevin said:
And how would you know this, Kevin? Did you drive the MSnews
administrators like Mike Brannigan and John Eddy insane with your 'just
FYI' line until they banned Chad?
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Jeff
umm Kevin,
Chad just posted; on another thread.
Jeff
Chad just posted; on another thread.
Jeff
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Kevin John Panzke
I had a feeling that Chad was going to get into big time trouble PostingNina said:
all that, "I hate Microsoft," Post's and "I hate Republicans," Post's
here in the Windows Vista Public Newsgroups, Just FYI.
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Nina DiBoy
Kevin said:
HI Kevin. Ya know, I can't find one post on google groups wherein Chad
has written "I hate Microsoft", never the less "I hate republicans".
Mabey you are taking some of these posts a bit too personally.
C
Chad Harris
Kevin--
1) How long have you been off your neuroleptic medication? I don't see any
other way to explain your grandiose delusions.
2) Don't you get tired of it when the police take you into the city teaching
hospital and they hold you for a specified period for observation?
3) Are you in China where free speech results in arrest and torture? There
have been rumblings that MSFT is a little conscious of what happens to
students when they report their MSN searches to the Chinese government.
4) At what point and place did you delusionallly see the vision that I ever
said "I hate MSFT"?
5) Did you miss literally hundreds of posts where I am drawn particularly to
recovering MSFT Windows when people either can't install Vista or XP in
other groups or can't recover it?
6) At what point did you delusionally see the vision that I ever said "I
hate Republicans."
7) Given that the Republican members of the House and Senate have been
processed and now admitted into the same prison context where they held the
Democrats for years since 1994, the Democrats are now in control of the
House and Senate. 2nd grade math has been a difficult process for some
people to overcome at times here, but George Allen is over 6000 votes down
in the final count. A recount cannot possibly make that amounts of votes up
for him, and while he could pick up some votes, so will Webb. The
historical precedent since the Civil War that if the party out of the
majority takes one chamber, it takes the other is intact now.
The Democrats will control the following and more but they will do it with
more comity and less acrimony than has been done in the last 10 years:
*Every Committee Chairmanship
*Every Bill that does or does not get to the floor of the House or the
Senate (That'd be Speaker Pellosi and House Majority Leader Reed unless
someone besides Harry Reed is chosen in the Senate by the Dems
*When and how long the Republicans can speek in Committees and sub-commitees
and when and if a committee meeting is held or not held
*The agenda of each Committee
*Every set of ground rules for Conference Committee (I know you don't
understand the concept of Conference Commitee where every substantive bill
ends up and only the conferees know what goes on or is traded; no House
version of a bill ever makes it out of Conference Commitee without being
modified by the Senate)
*Every subpoena, every contempt order for ignoring the subpoena
*The numbers of staff and funding for staff
*Office space assignments
*The selection of House Speaker and Commitee Assignments
*The Selection of Senate Majority Leader
*Spending or what the Founders called the Power of the Purse--virtually
every bit of funding for the government is under the control of the
Democratic majority in the House and the Senate
Being happy about this and thinking it is in the best interests of my
country does not translate into "hating Republicans" but I understand that
people like you and Anne Coulter think monolithically on a reptilian brain
level. You have to work with your therapist to see if some of the impusive
perceptions that originate in your hypothalamus can be vetted by a higher
level in the neighborhood of the cortex.
Kevin, after years of therapy, and if you stay on your medication like a
good boy, you may (I'm not optimistic) be able to discern constructive
criticism (and we've tried to educate you in this) who try to make the OS
or other software as good as they can with every means at their disposal who
don't work on the Redmond campus and people who are flaming MSFT for a
flame's sake and cannot be happy with Windows no matter what gets fixed. It
would be helpful for you to ask around and try to get a definition of a MSFT
syncophant so that you can distinguish this concept from people who are
trained to look at the software critically.
Constructive criticism is not hate Kevin. You'll have to work through your
parenting with your therapist/shrink. We can't do it here.
MSFT is a large company. Google it or check it out at www.hoover.com if you
need to. I know a number of them and most of the people I know there
welcome cricticism. Others don't. They are particularly sensitive to the
providing of an OS media by OEMs because they consider that a real cash cow.
OEM profits from Windows sales and Office preloaded rose 20% last quarter,
and retail profits for the same category took a 20% dive.
They are loath to discuss the outsourced Convergys PSS or Phone Support that
is reprehensible the worst possible quality and doesn't compare to the
quality of support many of us provide here, but privately many of them will
admit 1) they know it's eggregiously pathetic 2) It has no role in their
lives at MSFT, and is a business decision ( a bad one) that they have no
control over.
8) Besides your juvenile posts where you play a little boy's game of
policeman have you ever tried to post in the direction of helping someone
overcome a problem on this group or to use Vista in a better way? I can't
find any of those using View>find on any of the groups.
CH
1) How long have you been off your neuroleptic medication? I don't see any
other way to explain your grandiose delusions.
2) Don't you get tired of it when the police take you into the city teaching
hospital and they hold you for a specified period for observation?
3) Are you in China where free speech results in arrest and torture? There
have been rumblings that MSFT is a little conscious of what happens to
students when they report their MSN searches to the Chinese government.
4) At what point and place did you delusionallly see the vision that I ever
said "I hate MSFT"?
5) Did you miss literally hundreds of posts where I am drawn particularly to
recovering MSFT Windows when people either can't install Vista or XP in
other groups or can't recover it?
6) At what point did you delusionally see the vision that I ever said "I
hate Republicans."
7) Given that the Republican members of the House and Senate have been
processed and now admitted into the same prison context where they held the
Democrats for years since 1994, the Democrats are now in control of the
House and Senate. 2nd grade math has been a difficult process for some
people to overcome at times here, but George Allen is over 6000 votes down
in the final count. A recount cannot possibly make that amounts of votes up
for him, and while he could pick up some votes, so will Webb. The
historical precedent since the Civil War that if the party out of the
majority takes one chamber, it takes the other is intact now.
The Democrats will control the following and more but they will do it with
more comity and less acrimony than has been done in the last 10 years:
*Every Committee Chairmanship
*Every Bill that does or does not get to the floor of the House or the
Senate (That'd be Speaker Pellosi and House Majority Leader Reed unless
someone besides Harry Reed is chosen in the Senate by the Dems
*When and how long the Republicans can speek in Committees and sub-commitees
and when and if a committee meeting is held or not held
*The agenda of each Committee
*Every set of ground rules for Conference Committee (I know you don't
understand the concept of Conference Commitee where every substantive bill
ends up and only the conferees know what goes on or is traded; no House
version of a bill ever makes it out of Conference Commitee without being
modified by the Senate)
*Every subpoena, every contempt order for ignoring the subpoena
*The numbers of staff and funding for staff
*Office space assignments
*The selection of House Speaker and Commitee Assignments
*The Selection of Senate Majority Leader
*Spending or what the Founders called the Power of the Purse--virtually
every bit of funding for the government is under the control of the
Democratic majority in the House and the Senate
Being happy about this and thinking it is in the best interests of my
country does not translate into "hating Republicans" but I understand that
people like you and Anne Coulter think monolithically on a reptilian brain
level. You have to work with your therapist to see if some of the impusive
perceptions that originate in your hypothalamus can be vetted by a higher
level in the neighborhood of the cortex.
Kevin, after years of therapy, and if you stay on your medication like a
good boy, you may (I'm not optimistic) be able to discern constructive
criticism (and we've tried to educate you in this) who try to make the OS
or other software as good as they can with every means at their disposal who
don't work on the Redmond campus and people who are flaming MSFT for a
flame's sake and cannot be happy with Windows no matter what gets fixed. It
would be helpful for you to ask around and try to get a definition of a MSFT
syncophant so that you can distinguish this concept from people who are
trained to look at the software critically.
Constructive criticism is not hate Kevin. You'll have to work through your
parenting with your therapist/shrink. We can't do it here.
MSFT is a large company. Google it or check it out at www.hoover.com if you
need to. I know a number of them and most of the people I know there
welcome cricticism. Others don't. They are particularly sensitive to the
providing of an OS media by OEMs because they consider that a real cash cow.
OEM profits from Windows sales and Office preloaded rose 20% last quarter,
and retail profits for the same category took a 20% dive.
They are loath to discuss the outsourced Convergys PSS or Phone Support that
is reprehensible the worst possible quality and doesn't compare to the
quality of support many of us provide here, but privately many of them will
admit 1) they know it's eggregiously pathetic 2) It has no role in their
lives at MSFT, and is a business decision ( a bad one) that they have no
control over.
8) Besides your juvenile posts where you play a little boy's game of
policeman have you ever tried to post in the direction of helping someone
overcome a problem on this group or to use Vista in a better way? I can't
find any of those using View>find on any of the groups.
CH
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Jeff
Chad,
A little civics here if I may;
Umm, seeing as it actually stands as a tie in the Senate; 49-49,2.
Who really DOES become Senate majority leader?
I'm asking, cuz I don't remember the rules about this kind of situation.
Jeff
A little civics here if I may;
Umm, seeing as it actually stands as a tie in the Senate; 49-49,2.
Who really DOES become Senate majority leader?
I'm asking, cuz I don't remember the rules about this kind of situation.
Jeff
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jwardl
We'll all get one. All we have to do is go to the store, and pay the retail
price. Such a deal.
price. Such a deal.
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Frank
Easy, count to two.Jeff said:
The presumed Democratic majority counts on the support of two
independent senators who have declared that they will caucus with the
Democrats.
By doing so, they insure two things:
1) they get a good committee position
2) they insure that the Democrats have the majority.
You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.
Frank
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
There is no guarantee for the Beta testers.
Since you are asking in this public newsgroup, my guess is you are not a
member of the Technical Beta.
But instead you are participating in the Customer Preview Program.
Two different programs with different purposes.
Even if all the Technical Beta testers get Vista, unknown at present, the
CPP participants may not get it.
In any case, the Technical Beta testers will get all they were
promised...nothing.
And that is all that should be expected.
No one should expect any more.
Anyone getting any more should be grateful for the gift.
On the other hand, another answer to your question:
Absolutely YES, to everyone...who goes out and buys it.
Since you are asking in this public newsgroup, my guess is you are not a
member of the Technical Beta.
But instead you are participating in the Customer Preview Program.
Two different programs with different purposes.
Even if all the Technical Beta testers get Vista, unknown at present, the
CPP participants may not get it.
In any case, the Technical Beta testers will get all they were
promised...nothing.
And that is all that should be expected.
No one should expect any more.
Anyone getting any more should be grateful for the gift.
On the other hand, another answer to your question:
Absolutely YES, to everyone...who goes out and buys it.
I
Intel Inside
I agree Jupiter that "Anyone getting any more should be grateful for the
gift."
Mind you, it would be nice of MS to provide a 'gift' to Technical Beta
testers, and CPP participants, who actually submitted bug reports, as a
tangible form of appreciation.
gift."
Mind you, it would be nice of MS to provide a 'gift' to Technical Beta
testers, and CPP participants, who actually submitted bug reports, as a
tangible form of appreciation.
D
Drew
but ms does not have to we sign up to see the new windows and give feedback
nowhere does it say you get a free rtm or a final version.
nowhere does it say you get a free rtm or a final version.