R
Rob graham
Lua said:
I think Zonealarm Security Suite is excellent as a firewall, and for virus
and spyware.
Rob Graham
I think Zonealarm Security Suite is excellent as a firewall, and for virus
and spyware.
Rob Graham
M
Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)
Lua
I was an advocate of McAfee suite, but the 2005 version is so invasive..
Zonealarm and Kerio firewalls are a pain, and I would not use Norton
Anything.. I now use AVG and the SP2 firewall..
I was an advocate of McAfee suite, but the 2005 version is so invasive..
Zonealarm and Kerio firewalls are a pain, and I would not use Norton
Anything.. I now use AVG and the SP2 firewall..
L
Lua
I'm currently using ZoneAlarm Wireless and AVG 7.0. So far this is the
best combo I've found. I've tried other firewalls (Tiny, Fsecure etc.)
but can't get on with them. My last AV was V-Com FixIt 6.0 which I found
great for virus detection but useless at deleting/cleaning.
I've tried all-in-one solution (FSecure) but always found something I
didn't like.
Just wondering what others experiences are.
Lu
best combo I've found. I've tried other firewalls (Tiny, Fsecure etc.)
but can't get on with them. My last AV was V-Com FixIt 6.0 which I found
great for virus detection but useless at deleting/cleaning.
I've tried all-in-one solution (FSecure) but always found something I
didn't like.
Just wondering what others experiences are.
Lu
R
Richard Urban [MVP]
If you ever got a key logger on your computer Mike, you would be very happy
if you had ZoneAlarm installed first. All it takes is a visit to one site,
and who knows when that may happen. I am darn careful yet I have had one or
two installed on my systems in the past 3 years.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
if you had ZoneAlarm installed first. All it takes is a visit to one site,
and who knows when that may happen. I am darn careful yet I have had one or
two installed on my systems in the past 3 years.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
G
Guest
These seem to work well together for my setup.Lua said:
take care
beamish
O
\old\ devildog
I use SystemSuite Pro 6 now. Started using SystemSuite years ago when it was
owned by OnTrack. V-Com now owns and they have improved it with the step up
to Pro 6.
The anti-virus is Trend-Micro. The fire-wall is Sygate. Both top of the
line. Now included is the Spyware software. Spyware is also by Trend-Micro.
Updates are very easy. You can do manual, notification that update are ready
to download, updates and ask to install (I use this one), or install without
notification
It also comes with some easy to use maintenance, clean up, uninstall,
recovery and defrag software. Only problem I have had so far was a false
positive on spyware signatures last week. Showed a problem that was not
there. Later on that day signature files were updated and the problem went
away.
"old" devildog
-- Semper Fi --
-----------------------------
| I'm currently using ZoneAlarm Wireless and AVG 7.0. So far this is the
| best combo I've found. I've tried other firewalls (Tiny, Fsecure etc.)
| but can't get on with them. My last AV was V-Com FixIt 6.0 which I found
| great for virus detection but useless at deleting/cleaning.
| I've tried all-in-one solution (FSecure) but always found something I
| didn't like.
| Just wondering what others experiences are.
| Lu
|
owned by OnTrack. V-Com now owns and they have improved it with the step up
to Pro 6.
The anti-virus is Trend-Micro. The fire-wall is Sygate. Both top of the
line. Now included is the Spyware software. Spyware is also by Trend-Micro.
Updates are very easy. You can do manual, notification that update are ready
to download, updates and ask to install (I use this one), or install without
notification
It also comes with some easy to use maintenance, clean up, uninstall,
recovery and defrag software. Only problem I have had so far was a false
positive on spyware signatures last week. Showed a problem that was not
there. Later on that day signature files were updated and the problem went
away.
"old" devildog
-- Semper Fi --
-----------------------------
| I'm currently using ZoneAlarm Wireless and AVG 7.0. So far this is the
| best combo I've found. I've tried other firewalls (Tiny, Fsecure etc.)
| but can't get on with them. My last AV was V-Com FixIt 6.0 which I found
| great for virus detection but useless at deleting/cleaning.
| I've tried all-in-one solution (FSecure) but always found something I
| didn't like.
| Just wondering what others experiences are.
| Lu
|
A
Alias
Do you find it to be better than SystemSuite 5.0 and worth the upgrade?
Thanks,
Alias
Thanks,
Alias
K
kurttrail
beamish said:
Unfortunately, Sygate has been sucked into the Symantec Black Hole.
--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
M
Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)
Richard
I am a little wary of having no firewall other than the SP2 offering. I was
always happy with McAfee firewall. It was intelligent and never let anything
through that I didn't want. Unfortunately, their 2005 suite is so invasive
that I just can't recommend them anymore. Both anti-virus and firewall do a
great job, but at the expense of performance. Shades of Norton finally.
Kerio firewall looked promising, but I gotten sick of having to tell it what
to do. The free Zonealarm was blocking stuff left, right and centre, and
after only three hours, I dumped it. I guess that I should be less of a
cheapskate, and buy the Pro version. We will see.
I have heard all good things about 'The Shield Pro'. Maybe I will try that
route before committing to Zonealarm. Until that time, I will leave SP2
sitting behind the router 'just in case'.
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
I am a little wary of having no firewall other than the SP2 offering. I was
always happy with McAfee firewall. It was intelligent and never let anything
through that I didn't want. Unfortunately, their 2005 suite is so invasive
that I just can't recommend them anymore. Both anti-virus and firewall do a
great job, but at the expense of performance. Shades of Norton finally.
Kerio firewall looked promising, but I gotten sick of having to tell it what
to do. The free Zonealarm was blocking stuff left, right and centre, and
after only three hours, I dumped it. I guess that I should be less of a
cheapskate, and buy the Pro version. We will see.
I have heard all good things about 'The Shield Pro'. Maybe I will try that
route before committing to Zonealarm. Until that time, I will leave SP2
sitting behind the router 'just in case'.
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
Richard Urban said:
O
\old\ devildog
Worth the upgrade?
Yes
The upgrade just for the anti-spyware software is enough. The anti-virus
engine has been updated and beefed up. The fire-wall has been beefed up
also. The interface seems to work faster and smoother. If you are using SS5
already, the upgrade is easy. The new UpDate interface is nice, I like the
download and ask to install. Works well for me. I did the upgrade when they
had the special a few months ago and saved some bucks. As you know
Trend-Micro is in the top 5 for anti-virus software, the anti-spyware
software included should test in the top 5 very easily.
Everybody has their favorites, and I am not trying to change anybody's mind,
unless they are using that No**on junk. If you have used SystemSuite in the
past, the new Pro 6 version has a smooth, easy to use interface, that works
very well.
And yes I know Sygate is now destroyed as a good firewall, since they
decided to gone slumming, but the firewall included in SS Pro 6 in not
affected by the purchase. V-Com will tell you that the contract they had
with Sygate, was purchased and the terms cannot be changed. The firewall
must be supported as it is until the end of the original contract with
Sygate. After that, anyones guess, but I can't see them going with the "new"
owner of Sygate.
"old" devildog
-- Semper Fi --
-----------------------
| Do you find it to be better than SystemSuite 5.0 and worth the upgrade?
|
| Thanks,
|
| Alias
| ""old" devildog" <teyoungATmchsiDOTcom> wrote
|
| >I use SystemSuite Pro 6 now. Started using SystemSuite years ago when it
| >was
| > owned by OnTrack. V-Com now owns and they have improved it with the step
| > up
| > to Pro 6.
| > The anti-virus is Trend-Micro. The fire-wall is Sygate. Both top of the
| > line. Now included is the Spyware software. Spyware is also by
| > Trend-Micro.
| > Updates are very easy. You can do manual, notification that update are
| > ready
| > to download, updates and ask to install (I use this one), or install
| > without
| > notification
| > It also comes with some easy to use maintenance, clean up, uninstall,
| > recovery and defrag software. Only problem I have had so far was a false
| > positive on spyware signatures last week. Showed a problem that was not
| > there. Later on that day signature files were updated and the problem
went
| > away.
| >
| > "old" devildog
| > -- Semper Fi --
| > -----------------------------
| >
| > | I'm currently using ZoneAlarm Wireless and AVG 7.0. So far this is the
| > | best combo I've found. I've tried other firewalls (Tiny, Fsecure etc.)
| > | but can't get on with them. My last AV was V-Com FixIt 6.0 which I
found
| > | great for virus detection but useless at deleting/cleaning.
| > | I've tried all-in-one solution (FSecure) but always found something I
| > | didn't like.
| > | Just wondering what others experiences are.
| > | Lu
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
Yes
The upgrade just for the anti-spyware software is enough. The anti-virus
engine has been updated and beefed up. The fire-wall has been beefed up
also. The interface seems to work faster and smoother. If you are using SS5
already, the upgrade is easy. The new UpDate interface is nice, I like the
download and ask to install. Works well for me. I did the upgrade when they
had the special a few months ago and saved some bucks. As you know
Trend-Micro is in the top 5 for anti-virus software, the anti-spyware
software included should test in the top 5 very easily.
Everybody has their favorites, and I am not trying to change anybody's mind,
unless they are using that No**on junk. If you have used SystemSuite in the
past, the new Pro 6 version has a smooth, easy to use interface, that works
very well.
And yes I know Sygate is now destroyed as a good firewall, since they
decided to gone slumming, but the firewall included in SS Pro 6 in not
affected by the purchase. V-Com will tell you that the contract they had
with Sygate, was purchased and the terms cannot be changed. The firewall
must be supported as it is until the end of the original contract with
Sygate. After that, anyones guess, but I can't see them going with the "new"
owner of Sygate.
"old" devildog
-- Semper Fi --
-----------------------
| Do you find it to be better than SystemSuite 5.0 and worth the upgrade?
|
| Thanks,
|
| Alias
| ""old" devildog" <teyoungATmchsiDOTcom> wrote
|
| >I use SystemSuite Pro 6 now. Started using SystemSuite years ago when it
| >was
| > owned by OnTrack. V-Com now owns and they have improved it with the step
| > up
| > to Pro 6.
| > The anti-virus is Trend-Micro. The fire-wall is Sygate. Both top of the
| > line. Now included is the Spyware software. Spyware is also by
| > Trend-Micro.
| > Updates are very easy. You can do manual, notification that update are
| > ready
| > to download, updates and ask to install (I use this one), or install
| > without
| > notification
| > It also comes with some easy to use maintenance, clean up, uninstall,
| > recovery and defrag software. Only problem I have had so far was a false
| > positive on spyware signatures last week. Showed a problem that was not
| > there. Later on that day signature files were updated and the problem
went
| > away.
| >
| > "old" devildog
| > -- Semper Fi --
| > -----------------------------
| >
| > | I'm currently using ZoneAlarm Wireless and AVG 7.0. So far this is the
| > | best combo I've found. I've tried other firewalls (Tiny, Fsecure etc.)
| > | but can't get on with them. My last AV was V-Com FixIt 6.0 which I
found
| > | great for virus detection but useless at deleting/cleaning.
| > | I've tried all-in-one solution (FSecure) but always found something I
| > | didn't like.
| > | Just wondering what others experiences are.
| > | Lu
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
A
Alias
Thanks, I'll get it. I take it I don't have to uninstall 5.0 to upgrade to
6?
Alias
6?
Alias
O
\old\ devildog
No.
The install software removes any of the old files no longer needed. What is
nice is that the "old" firewall settings, and many other of your setting
just transfer over. It is nice to not have to go through the "allowing" of
everything with the firewall again. Suggestion, check the box to do a
spyware scan while doing the virus scan. You will find that option under
"Settings, Anti-Virus" from the "Home" screen. I like this, because a deep
scan of the HD looks everything that is bad. I also, against the advice of
many of the MVP's here have run the e-mail virus scan since I started using
SS4. I have never had an error with OE and getting my e-mail. In fact with
SS5, it stopped a series (hundreds in a 3 week period) of e-mails
containing, a virus. All appeared to be coming from my parents. Their
machine was clean (they were also running SS5). They also got hundreds that
were blocked. We later on found the infected machine belonged to Pop's
sister. She was using No**on's.
Yes I recommend SystemSuite. It integrated well with Win '98SE, and
integrates well with XP. Sorry I never did the ME or 2000 software. I
understand I missed nothing with ME.
Also I still use AdAwareSE, as well as Spybot S&D, and WinPatrol. I have
used WinPatrol for a very long time. Scotty has "been on patrol" for a long
time. The WinPatrol Plus (paid version) is the way to go. A one time, low
priced fee ($25). I have used WinPatrol long before anything else. The
protection it affords stopped so much before the others came along. Check
it out and let me know what you think of it. www.winpatrol.com It is very
well trusted.
"old" devildog
--Semper Fi --
-----------------------
| Thanks, I'll get it. I take it I don't have to uninstall 5.0 to upgrade to
| 6?
|
| Alias
|
| ""old" devildog" <teyoungATmchsiDOTcom> wrote
|
| > Worth the upgrade?
| > Yes
| > The upgrade just for the anti-spyware software is enough. The anti-virus
| > engine has been updated and beefed up. The fire-wall has been beefed up
| > also. The interface seems to work faster and smoother. If you are using
| > SS5
| > already, the upgrade is easy. The new UpDate interface is nice, I like
the
| > download and ask to install. Works well for me. I did the upgrade when
| > they
| > had the special a few months ago and saved some bucks. As you know
| > Trend-Micro is in the top 5 for anti-virus software, the anti-spyware
| > software included should test in the top 5 very easily.
| > Everybody has their favorites, and I am not trying to change anybody's
| > mind,
| > unless they are using that No**on junk. If you have used SystemSuite in
| > the
| > past, the new Pro 6 version has a smooth, easy to use interface, that
| > works
| > very well.
| > And yes I know Sygate is now destroyed as a good firewall, since they
| > decided to gone slumming, but the firewall included in SS Pro 6 in not
| > affected by the purchase. V-Com will tell you that the contract they had
| > with Sygate, was purchased and the terms cannot be changed. The firewall
| > must be supported as it is until the end of the original contract with
| > Sygate. After that, anyones guess, but I can't see them going with the
| > "new"
| > owner of Sygate.
| >
| > "old" devildog
| > -- Semper Fi --
| >
| > -----------------------
| >
| >
| > | > | Do you find it to be better than SystemSuite 5.0 and worth the
upgrade?
| > |
| > | Thanks,
| > |
| > | Alias
| > | ""old" devildog" <teyoungATmchsiDOTcom> wrote
| > |
| > | >I use SystemSuite Pro 6 now. Started using SystemSuite years ago when
| > it
| > | >was
| > | > owned by OnTrack. V-Com now owns and they have improved it with the
| > step
| > | > up
| > | > to Pro 6.
| > | > The anti-virus is Trend-Micro. The fire-wall is Sygate. Both top of
| > the
| > | > line. Now included is the Spyware software. Spyware is also by
| > | > Trend-Micro.
| > | > Updates are very easy. You can do manual, notification that update
are
| > | > ready
| > | > to download, updates and ask to install (I use this one), or install
| > | > without
| > | > notification
| > | > It also comes with some easy to use maintenance, clean up,
uninstall,
| > | > recovery and defrag software. Only problem I have had so far was a
| > false
| > | > positive on spyware signatures last week. Showed a problem that was
| > not
| > | > there. Later on that day signature files were updated and the
problem
| > went
| > | > away.
| > | >
| > | > "old" devildog
| > | > -- Semper Fi --
| > | > -----------------------------
| > | >
| > | > | > | I'm currently using ZoneAlarm Wireless and AVG 7.0. So far this is
| > the
| > | > | best combo I've found. I've tried other firewalls (Tiny, Fsecure
| > etc.)
| > | > | but can't get on with them. My last AV was V-Com FixIt 6.0 which I
| > found
| > | > | great for virus detection but useless at deleting/cleaning.
| > | > | I've tried all-in-one solution (FSecure) but always found
something
| > I
| > | > | didn't like.
| > | > | Just wondering what others experiences are.
| > | > | Lu
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
The install software removes any of the old files no longer needed. What is
nice is that the "old" firewall settings, and many other of your setting
just transfer over. It is nice to not have to go through the "allowing" of
everything with the firewall again. Suggestion, check the box to do a
spyware scan while doing the virus scan. You will find that option under
"Settings, Anti-Virus" from the "Home" screen. I like this, because a deep
scan of the HD looks everything that is bad. I also, against the advice of
many of the MVP's here have run the e-mail virus scan since I started using
SS4. I have never had an error with OE and getting my e-mail. In fact with
SS5, it stopped a series (hundreds in a 3 week period) of e-mails
containing, a virus. All appeared to be coming from my parents. Their
machine was clean (they were also running SS5). They also got hundreds that
were blocked. We later on found the infected machine belonged to Pop's
sister. She was using No**on's.
Yes I recommend SystemSuite. It integrated well with Win '98SE, and
integrates well with XP. Sorry I never did the ME or 2000 software. I
understand I missed nothing with ME.
Also I still use AdAwareSE, as well as Spybot S&D, and WinPatrol. I have
used WinPatrol for a very long time. Scotty has "been on patrol" for a long
time. The WinPatrol Plus (paid version) is the way to go. A one time, low
priced fee ($25). I have used WinPatrol long before anything else. The
protection it affords stopped so much before the others came along. Check
it out and let me know what you think of it. www.winpatrol.com It is very
well trusted.
"old" devildog
--Semper Fi --
-----------------------
| Thanks, I'll get it. I take it I don't have to uninstall 5.0 to upgrade to
| 6?
|
| Alias
|
| ""old" devildog" <teyoungATmchsiDOTcom> wrote
|
| > Worth the upgrade?
| > Yes
| > The upgrade just for the anti-spyware software is enough. The anti-virus
| > engine has been updated and beefed up. The fire-wall has been beefed up
| > also. The interface seems to work faster and smoother. If you are using
| > SS5
| > already, the upgrade is easy. The new UpDate interface is nice, I like
the
| > download and ask to install. Works well for me. I did the upgrade when
| > they
| > had the special a few months ago and saved some bucks. As you know
| > Trend-Micro is in the top 5 for anti-virus software, the anti-spyware
| > software included should test in the top 5 very easily.
| > Everybody has their favorites, and I am not trying to change anybody's
| > mind,
| > unless they are using that No**on junk. If you have used SystemSuite in
| > the
| > past, the new Pro 6 version has a smooth, easy to use interface, that
| > works
| > very well.
| > And yes I know Sygate is now destroyed as a good firewall, since they
| > decided to gone slumming, but the firewall included in SS Pro 6 in not
| > affected by the purchase. V-Com will tell you that the contract they had
| > with Sygate, was purchased and the terms cannot be changed. The firewall
| > must be supported as it is until the end of the original contract with
| > Sygate. After that, anyones guess, but I can't see them going with the
| > "new"
| > owner of Sygate.
| >
| > "old" devildog
| > -- Semper Fi --
| >
| > -----------------------
| >
| >
| > | > | Do you find it to be better than SystemSuite 5.0 and worth the
upgrade?
| > |
| > | Thanks,
| > |
| > | Alias
| > | ""old" devildog" <teyoungATmchsiDOTcom> wrote
| > |
| > | >I use SystemSuite Pro 6 now. Started using SystemSuite years ago when
| > it
| > | >was
| > | > owned by OnTrack. V-Com now owns and they have improved it with the
| > step
| > | > up
| > | > to Pro 6.
| > | > The anti-virus is Trend-Micro. The fire-wall is Sygate. Both top of
| > the
| > | > line. Now included is the Spyware software. Spyware is also by
| > | > Trend-Micro.
| > | > Updates are very easy. You can do manual, notification that update
are
| > | > ready
| > | > to download, updates and ask to install (I use this one), or install
| > | > without
| > | > notification
| > | > It also comes with some easy to use maintenance, clean up,
uninstall,
| > | > recovery and defrag software. Only problem I have had so far was a
| > false
| > | > positive on spyware signatures last week. Showed a problem that was
| > not
| > | > there. Later on that day signature files were updated and the
problem
| > went
| > | > away.
| > | >
| > | > "old" devildog
| > | > -- Semper Fi --
| > | > -----------------------------
| > | >
| > | > | > | I'm currently using ZoneAlarm Wireless and AVG 7.0. So far this is
| > the
| > | > | best combo I've found. I've tried other firewalls (Tiny, Fsecure
| > etc.)
| > | > | but can't get on with them. My last AV was V-Com FixIt 6.0 which I
| > found
| > | > | great for virus detection but useless at deleting/cleaning.
| > | > | I've tried all-in-one solution (FSecure) but always found
something
| > I
| > | > | didn't like.
| > | > | Just wondering what others experiences are.
| > | > | Lu
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
P
Plato
Richard said:
Are you saying that if you visit certain websites that a keylogger may
be installed without your knowledge? How does that happen?
Z
Z
Lua said:
I like the XP firewall (I scrapped ZA Free because it didn't set up
service dependencies properly so it would clobber the sshd inbound port
when it started after sshd). The Windows firewall service has the proper
startup dependencies to prevent that from happening.
or AV, I use McAfee on the systems that still have time left on the
12-month subscription that came with it, and AVG Free on the rest.
I also like MS AntiSpyware and use it instead of Ad Aware and Spybot.
Z
Z
Mike said:
I have the McAfee firewall but don't like the way it silently gives all
the McAfee components full access in/out. You remove the components and
McAfee silently adds them back.
No thank you; forget that.
R
Richard Urban [MVP]
Plato said:
I wish I knew. Then I could try to avoid it. How about white text on a white
background. When you click on a blank area in a window, so as to bring the
window into focus (make active), you may click on a "hidden something: Bang!
A downloaded activex control you didn't plan on or want. Or, it may come in
as part of a "free" utility, screen saver, ringtone, desktop background etc.
that you initiate the download for.
Anyway, ZoneAlarm Professional, and now ZA Security Suite, caught both
instances when they tried to connect to pass on the gathered information. I
then knew they were there and was able to eliminate them.
I have an remote acquaintance that had a dialer installed on his computer
without his consent or knowledge. It would disconnect him from the internet
(he used dialup services) and silently dial a new number. He was merrily
surfing the web for over a month when he got his first phone bill with the
added charges. He almost went into cardiac arrest. The bill was for over
$35,000 ($9.95 per minute for every minute he was connected). That was $597
for every hour his connection was hijacked. After much arbitration, the
phone company forgave 1/2 of the phone bill. He was still responsible for
the remainder.
ZoneAlarm would have prevented this from occurring. It would have popped up
a warning about a new connection and what zone did he want to give it access
to, internet or trusted. At that point he would have known, and could have
denied the connection.
Many people seem to be happy with the "one way" Windows XP firewall. I hope
they never have the problems I have seen in servicing computers for the past
12 years.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
Z
Z
Richard said:
The next version will (rumor has it) be two-way.
S
Stan Brown
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:50:24 -0400 in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, Richard Urban [MVP] favored us
with...
Of course, if you weren't running with ActiveX turned on, that would
not be a concern.
"Doctor, doctor, it hurts when I move my arm this way!"
"Then don't."
Seriously, if people insist on using MSIE, they should at least
configure it to reduce the obvious vulnerabilities, of which ActiveX
is the largest. Otherwise they're just asking for trouble.
--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"To put it bluntly but fairly, anyone today who doubts that the
variety of life on this planet was produced by a process of
evolution is simply ignorant -- inexcusably ignorant, in a world
where three out of four people have learned to read and write."
--Daniel Dennett, /Darwin's Dangerous Idea/ (1995), page 46
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, Richard Urban [MVP] favored us
with...
Of course, if you weren't running with ActiveX turned on, that would
not be a concern.
"Doctor, doctor, it hurts when I move my arm this way!"
"Then don't."
Seriously, if people insist on using MSIE, they should at least
configure it to reduce the obvious vulnerabilities, of which ActiveX
is the largest. Otherwise they're just asking for trouble.
--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"To put it bluntly but fairly, anyone today who doubts that the
variety of life on this planet was produced by a process of
evolution is simply ignorant -- inexcusably ignorant, in a world
where three out of four people have learned to read and write."
--Daniel Dennett, /Darwin's Dangerous Idea/ (1995), page 46
M
McGrandpa
Z said:
that's one thing about Zone Alarm I do like. It will even block itself, and
stay blocked
McG.
R
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Wow Richard, that's some story! I know that the insecurity of Windows can
lead to lost data and trashed systems and many hours wasted repairing same,
but I didn't know that it could actually cost someone that much money! Too
bad the EULA protects Microsoft from any liability in this matter. That was
the company that put out such an insecure operating system to start with. I
can really empathize with your remote acquaintance. I hope he's learned his
lesson and looked elsewhere for an operating system to run on his computer.
After reading your post, I'm more happier than ever that only my Linux
boxes are allowed to connect to the Net. My one XP box doesn't look outside
of my firewall.