G
Guest
Is there a way to ban IP addresses in FP 2003 publishing to a Windows 2003
server?
All the info and script examples I find are for non-windows servers.
server?
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Thomas A. Rowe
FP doesn't have any function to accomplish this directly. Your host/admin would have to do this
directly on server via the IIS MMC or you would have to write custom ASP/VBScript and rename all
pages to have a .asp extensions.
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directly on server via the IIS MMC or you would have to write custom ASP/VBScript and rename all
pages to have a .asp extensions.
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WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
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Guest
Not exactly the answer I was hoping for, I was thinking it could be something
simple. Thanks.
simple. Thanks.
K
Kevin Spencer
You should also consider that most popel (and their computers) don't have
permanent IP addresses. They change every couple of days.
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HTH,
Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
What You Seek Is What You Get.
permanent IP addresses. They change every couple of days.
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HTH,
Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
What You Seek Is What You Get.
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Guest
I was aware of that but when I read my usage report my web host provides
there are a few IP address that show up all the time and at odd hours in the
morning. The report calls them robots or something similar and I assume it
involves spam or something not desirable.
there are a few IP address that show up all the time and at odd hours in the
morning. The report calls them robots or something similar and I assume it
involves spam or something not desirable.
T
Thomas A. Rowe
You need to first determine if the robots are friendly, before you consider blocking them. You need
to review the raw log files, because a lot of detail is not available in the host provide stat
applications.
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to review the raw log files, because a lot of detail is not available in the host provide stat
applications.
--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
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Guest
Thanks Thom. I will try to make some sense of it and respond accordingly.
Wasn't aware there could be"friendly" robots.
Wasn't aware there could be"friendly" robots.
M
Mike Mueller
I am assuming you mean to ban IP addresses from reading your
pages.
Usually this would be a server-side job. You could use the
IIS snap-in to disallow specific IPs or blocks of IPs.
You could also use a simple script in ASP to read the IP and
redirect it as desired
I believe you could do that with javscript also, but it
would be client side and easily defeated
The problem with doing this is that most users have dynamic
IPs, and to effectively block them would require you to
block out that ISPs block.
message
: Is there a way to ban IP addresses in FP 2003 publishing
to a Windows 2003
: server?
: All the info and script examples I find are for
non-windows servers.
pages.
Usually this would be a server-side job. You could use the
IIS snap-in to disallow specific IPs or blocks of IPs.
You could also use a simple script in ASP to read the IP and
redirect it as desired
I believe you could do that with javscript also, but it
would be client side and easily defeated
The problem with doing this is that most users have dynamic
IPs, and to effectively block them would require you to
block out that ISPs block.
message
: Is there a way to ban IP addresses in FP 2003 publishing
to a Windows 2003
: server?
: All the info and script examples I find are for
non-windows servers.
T
Thomas A. Rowe
Some of the good bots:
Googlebot, MSN, Yahoo, Overture, infoseek, lycos, slurp, scooter, and others.
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Googlebot, MSN, Yahoo, Overture, infoseek, lycos, slurp, scooter, and others.
--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
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Guest
Thanks Mike and Thomas. I an going to my favorite computer store this evening
and try to find a how-to book. Banning unfriendly robots and the like from
the web site completely seems it would be easier than banning each page.
Thanks again;
Don
and try to find a how-to book. Banning unfriendly robots and the like from
the web site completely seems it would be easier than banning each page.
Thanks again;
Don
M
Mike Mueller
Spiders/Bots can be friendly- how do you think google, msn,
etc get all of their information?
Get the name of the bot and search for info on it. Many
times the useragent section in the site log will have the
url for more info on the spider/bot
Todays bots by me-
IRLbot/1.0+(+http://irl.cs.tamu.edu/crawler) ---------------------
Indifferent - A research project by Texas A and M
Baiduspider+(+http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.htm) --------
Unknown to me spider
Googlebot/2.1+(+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)-----------
Google
msnbot/1.0+(+http://search.msn.com/msnbot.htm) ---------------
MSN
appie+1.1+(http://www.walhello.com) --------------------------Unknown
to me spider
Baidu is the only one I ned to keep an eye AFAIK. The IP
origin was China and from what I could find they deal with
some porn on their networks. If there are others I should be
concerned about, please let me know
message
: Thanks Thom. I will try to make some sense of it and
respond accordingly.
: Wasn't aware there could be"friendly" robots.
:
: "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
:
: > You need to first determine if the robots are friendly,
before you consider blocking them. You need
: > to review the raw log files, because a lot of detail is
not available in the host provide stat
: > applications.
: >
: > --
: > ==============================================
: > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
: > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
: >
: > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
: > ==============================================
: > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage
support see:
: > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
: >
message
: >
: > >I was aware of that but when I read my usage report my
web host provides
: > > there are a few IP address that show up all the time
and at odd hours in the
: > > morning. The report calls them robots or something
similar and I assume it
: > > involves spam or something not desirable.
: > >
: > > "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
: > >
: > >> You should also consider that most popel (and their
computers) don't have
: > >> permanent IP addresses. They change every couple of
days.
: > >>
: > >> --
: > >> HTH,
: > >>
: > >> Kevin Spencer
: > >> Microsoft MVP
: > >> ..Net Developer
: > >> What You Seek Is What You Get.
: > >>
in message
: > >>
: > >> > Not exactly the answer I was hoping for, I was
thinking it could be
: > >> > something
: > >> > simple. Thanks.
: > >> >
: > >> > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
: > >> >
: > >> >> FP doesn't have any function to accomplish this
directly. Your host/admin
: > >> >> would have to do this
: > >> >> directly on server via the IIS MMC or you would
have to write custom
: > >> >> ASP/VBScript and rename all
: > >> >> pages to have a .asp extensions.
: > >> >>
: > >> >> --
: > >> >> ==============================================
: > >> >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
: > >> >> WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
: > >> >>
: > >> >> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links,
etc.
: > >> >> ==============================================
: > >> >> To assist you in getting the best answers for
FrontPage support see:
: > >> >>
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
: > >> >>
: > >> >> "Don Hale" <[email protected]>
wrote in message
: > >> >>
: > >> >> > Is there a way to ban IP addresses in FP 2003
publishing to a Windows
: > >> >> > 2003
: > >> >> > server?
: > >> >> > All the info and script examples I find are for
non-windows servers.
: > >> >>
: > >> >>
: > >> >>
: > >>
: > >>
: > >>
: >
: >
: >
etc get all of their information?
Get the name of the bot and search for info on it. Many
times the useragent section in the site log will have the
url for more info on the spider/bot
Todays bots by me-
IRLbot/1.0+(+http://irl.cs.tamu.edu/crawler) ---------------------
Indifferent - A research project by Texas A and M
Baiduspider+(+http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.htm) --------
Unknown to me spider
Googlebot/2.1+(+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)-----------
msnbot/1.0+(+http://search.msn.com/msnbot.htm) ---------------
MSN
appie+1.1+(http://www.walhello.com) --------------------------Unknown
to me spider
Baidu is the only one I ned to keep an eye AFAIK. The IP
origin was China and from what I could find they deal with
some porn on their networks. If there are others I should be
concerned about, please let me know
message
: Thanks Thom. I will try to make some sense of it and
respond accordingly.
: Wasn't aware there could be"friendly" robots.
:
: "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
:
: > You need to first determine if the robots are friendly,
before you consider blocking them. You need
: > to review the raw log files, because a lot of detail is
not available in the host provide stat
: > applications.
: >
: > --
: > ==============================================
: > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
: > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
: >
: > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
: > ==============================================
: > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage
support see:
: > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
: >
message
: >
: > >I was aware of that but when I read my usage report my
web host provides
: > > there are a few IP address that show up all the time
and at odd hours in the
: > > morning. The report calls them robots or something
similar and I assume it
: > > involves spam or something not desirable.
: > >
: > > "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
: > >
: > >> You should also consider that most popel (and their
computers) don't have
: > >> permanent IP addresses. They change every couple of
days.
: > >>
: > >> --
: > >> HTH,
: > >>
: > >> Kevin Spencer
: > >> Microsoft MVP
: > >> ..Net Developer
: > >> What You Seek Is What You Get.
: > >>
in message
: > >>
: > >> > Not exactly the answer I was hoping for, I was
thinking it could be
: > >> > something
: > >> > simple. Thanks.
: > >> >
: > >> > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
: > >> >
: > >> >> FP doesn't have any function to accomplish this
directly. Your host/admin
: > >> >> would have to do this
: > >> >> directly on server via the IIS MMC or you would
have to write custom
: > >> >> ASP/VBScript and rename all
: > >> >> pages to have a .asp extensions.
: > >> >>
: > >> >> --
: > >> >> ==============================================
: > >> >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
: > >> >> WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
: > >> >>
: > >> >> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links,
etc.
: > >> >> ==============================================
: > >> >> To assist you in getting the best answers for
FrontPage support see:
: > >> >>
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
: > >> >>
: > >> >> "Don Hale" <[email protected]>
wrote in message
: > >> >>
: > >> >> > Is there a way to ban IP addresses in FP 2003
publishing to a Windows
: > >> >> > 2003
: > >> >> > server?
: > >> >> > All the info and script examples I find are for
non-windows servers.
: > >> >>
: > >> >>
: > >> >>
: > >>
: > >>
: > >>
: >
: >
: >
W
Windsun
Then you might be assuming wrong. You might want to find out what you are
banning first.
banning first.
T
Tom J
Don Hale said:Thanks Mike and Thomas. I an going to my favorite computer store
this evening
and try to find a how-to book. Banning unfriendly robots and the
like from
the web site completely seems it would be easier than banning each
page.
After reading this thread, I just checked the statistics on 2 of my
sites. Every robot that has been to both sites in the past 2 months
were search engine robots, and I for one, wouldn't do anything to
interrupt what they do. I advise you not to interfere either if you
want your site listed so it can be found by anyone other than the
people you tell about the site.
Tom J
G
Guest
I agree, Further investigation shows the IP addresses I am concerned about
are considered friendly. Only 2 in the last 3 months are suspicious.
I'll take your advice and move on.
Thanks again for your knowledge and help.
Don
are considered friendly. Only 2 in the last 3 months are suspicious.
I'll take your advice and move on.
Thanks again for your knowledge and help.
Don
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