Backup utility

[Guest]

I believe my XP home edition was factory installed which means I do not have
the disc to install the backup utility. Is there somewhere I can download
this utility?

Thanks

 

[John Barnett MVP]

You need NTBACKUP. Visit my website http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Click
the Conmtact Me tab and email me (Put NTBACKUP in the subject line) and i'll
email you the file - it is only small.

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[Ken Blake, MVP]

I believe my XP home edition was factory installed which means I do
not have the disc to install the backup utility. Is there somewhere I
can download this utility?

Backup is installed automatically on XP Professional, but not on XP Home. If
you have the complete XP Home CD, find backup on the CD, in
\ValueAdd\MSFT\NTBACKUP and install it yourself by doubleclicking the file
ntbackup.msi.

If you don't have an XP CD, you can download ntbackup.msi at
http://www.onecomputerguy.com/software/ntbackup.msi Also see
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302894

 

[AJR]

Another possible option - Check your computer for a folder titled "i386" -
this is the OS and the value add folder may be included.

 

[Rock]

I believe my XP home edition was factory installed which means I do not
have
the disc to install the backup utility. Is there somewhere I can download
this utility?

Ken told you how to get ntbackup. I would add that ntbackup is a poor
backup solution. It is a legacy application from NT, and designed to work
with tape drives and other hard drives. Ntbackup cannot backup to DVD and
will only backup to CD if other 3rd party CD burning software is available
and even with that it will not span CDs, i.e. one CD is the limit, which is
not very practical. It is geared toward tape drives or other hard drives.
The ASR feature (Automated System Recovery) is cumbersome at best and is
only available for XP Pro.

A better solution is to use an imaging program. This makes an exact image
of the partition which can be saved on CD/DVD or to another drive - internal
or external. Imaging to an external USB 2.0 / Firewire drive works well.
Then occasionally burning an image to DVD gives you redundancy. Restores
can be done of the entire partition or individual files / folders. These
work well and make it easy to recover from a drive crash. Examples of this
are:

Norton Ghost 10
Acronis True Image 10 (seems to be the favorite these days)
Terabyte Unlimited's Image for Windows
CasperXP

The second option is a traditional backup program such as Stompsoft's PC
BackUP, Sonic’s Backup MyPC or SecondCopy from www.centered.com. There are
other backup programs out there as well. This can do a complete backup or
backup individual files and folders to DVD/CD and other drives.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Ken told you how to get ntbackup. I would add that ntbackup is a poor
backup solution.

I agree, and perhaps should have added the same. I echo everything you say.

 

[Paul W Jones]

I don't seem able to get Norton Ghost 10 to work with .NET framework
2.0 (it says it requires 1.1, which is back-level), so I'm not sure I
would recommend it these days. Possibly Norton Save & Restore, which
is supposed to be roughly a replacement, but I have not at this point
had personal experience to say it co-exists with current Microsoft
software levels. Symantec seems to be still selling Ghost 10, which I
find a little odd.

Paul W Jones

 

[Poprivet]

I don't seem able to get Norton Ghost 10 to work with .NET framework
2.0 (it says it requires 1.1, which is back-level), so I'm not sure I
would recommend it these days. Possibly Norton Save & Restore, which
is supposed to be roughly a replacement, but I have not at this point
had personal experience to say it co-exists with current Microsoft
software levels. Symantec seems to be still selling Ghost 10, which I
find a little odd.

Paul W Jones

You MUST HAVE 1.1 for Ghost 10. The framework versions aren't really
versions as we're used to them. 1.1 and 2.0 and the new 3.0 are ALL
different and not "backward" compatible. You have to have whatever version
is specified unless it says more than one version will work; which Ghost
does not. If none of your apps require version 2.0, it's just sitting there
wasting space; I'd remove it.

HTH
Pop`

 

[Rock]

I don't seem able to get Norton Ghost 10 to work with .NET framework
2.0 (it says it requires 1.1, which is back-level), so I'm not sure I
would recommend it these days. Possibly Norton Save & Restore, which
is supposed to be roughly a replacement, but I have not at this point
had personal experience to say it co-exists with current Microsoft
software levels. Symantec seems to be still selling Ghost 10, which I
find a little odd.

..Net versions are not backward compatible. I know it's not the standard we
expect in upgrade versions. And that's because they are not actually an
upgrade. It is a different version. You have to use the version that is
compatible with the program. You can have multiple versions of .Net on the
computer. If Norton Ghost needs .Net 1.1 then that needs to be installed.

 

[Paul W Jones]

Thanks, but in point of fact, I originally did have .NET 1.1 installed,
along with 2.0, and Norton Ghost 10 refused to run. It appears in
Ghost's case, it's the presence of .NET 2.0 that causes it to think 1.1
is not installed, in error, or something like that. I uninstalled .NET
2.0, and Ghost 10 won't run. Re-installed .NET 1.1, Ghost still won't
run. It appears then that Symantec support was correct, the only way
to have Ghost 10 run, is to make sure .NET 2.0 is never installed on
the computer. Granted, I am going off a sample of 1, but I did contact
Symantec support twice, through different methods, and both times their
advice was to not allow .NET 2.0 to be installed on the computer. They
had no advice on how to get a computer to run Ghost with .NET 2.0
installed. Granted, it's the help desk, so I will probably try a few
more experiments before giving up, but so far at least, no joy with
Ghost 10.0.

Paul W Jones

 

[Rock]

Thanks, but in point of fact, I originally did have .NET 1.1 installed,
along with 2.0, and Norton Ghost 10 refused to run. It appears in
Ghost's case, it's the presence of .NET 2.0 that causes it to think 1.1
is not installed, in error, or something like that. I uninstalled .NET
2.0, and Ghost 10 won't run. Re-installed .NET 1.1, Ghost still won't
run. It appears then that Symantec support was correct, the only way
to have Ghost 10 run, is to make sure .NET 2.0 is never installed on
the computer. Granted, I am going off a sample of 1, but I did contact
Symantec support twice, through different methods, and both times their
advice was to not allow .NET 2.0 to be installed on the computer. They
had no advice on how to get a computer to run Ghost with .NET 2.0
installed. Granted, it's the help desk, so I will probably try a few
more experiments before giving up, but so far at least, no joy with
Ghost 10.0.

That's discouraging. There is also Acronis True Image 10 which people have
been happy with. By the way I use Drive Image 7 which is the basis for
Ghost 10. DI7 was developed by Powerquest which was gobbled up by Symantec
and the technology of DI was incorporated in Ghost 9 and beyond. DI7 uses
..Net 1.1. I also have .Net 2.0 installed and DI works fine anyway. Seems
Symantec messed with a good product.