Backin up to external harddrive.

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Jay Cee

Hi all:

recently bought a Harddrive and external USB Hardrive case to use as a
backup for all my important data. Was just wondering if there was a program
that would completely copy my internal harddrive to the external?? What I
mean is a complete copy, that if i lost my internal harddrive i could
replace it with the external and comp would boot up and run the same?
I have partitioned the internal to make a C:, D:, E: and F: drive out of my
120 GB - will any program recognize these partions and duplicate them?

TIA

Jay Cee
 
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Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)

Do you mean boot from the external drive or do you have an external drive
that can be connected as an internal drive, some external drives are
actually internal drives that are in an enclosure. If it's an external
drive, you need to be sure your system can boot from an external drive, not
all systems can. You might want to check with the manufacturer of your
external drive as well as your motherboard or PC manufacturer.

Second, you may need to run a repair install on the cloned drive if you need
XP to boot from it. When XP was installed, your hardware configuration was
different and XP has an anti-piracy scheme that might see your hardware
configuration as having changed. While there's no problem with activation
because it is the same system, assuming your system can boot from the
external drive, a repair install may be necessary in order for the system to
properly boot from that drive. Hence, you certainly ought to test your
scenario before you actually face a crisis wherein such a procedure is
required.

If you need to do a repair install, the following is the procedure:
NOTE, while a repair install should leave your data files intact, if
something goes wrong during the repair install, you may be forced to start
over and do a clean install of XP. If you don't have your data backed up,
you would lose your data should that eventuality occur.

Assuming your system is set to boot from the CD-ROM drive and you have an
actual XP CD as opposed to a recovery CD, boot with the XP
CD in the drive and perform a repair install as outlined below. If the
system isn't set to boot from the CD or you are not sure, you need to enter
the system's BIOS. When you boot the system, the first screen usually has
instructions that if you wish to enter set press a specific key, when you
see that, do so. Then you will have to navigate to the boot sequence, if
the CD-ROM drive is not first line, set it first in the boot sequence. Save
your settings and exit with the XP CD in the drive. The system will reboot.

When the system boots, a few screens into the process you may see a message
instructing you
to hit any key in order to boot from the CD along with a countdown. When
you see this be sure to
hit a key on the keyboard, if you miss this instruction and the system fails
to boot from the CD, it's too
late, you'll need to reboot and try again.

Once you have pressed a key, setup should begin. You will see a reference
asking if you need to load special drivers and another notice that if you
wish to begin the ASR (Automatic Recovery Console) depress F2. Just let
setup run past all of that. It will continue to load files and drivers.

Then it will bring you to a screen. Eventually, you will come to a screen
with the option to (1) setup Windows or (2) Repair Windows Installation
using the Recovery console. ***The selection you want at this screen is
"Setup Windows,"
NOT "Repair Windows Installation.

The first option, to setup Windows is the one you want and requires you to
press enter. When asked, press F8 to accept the end user agreement. Setup
will then search for previous versions of Windows. Upon finding your
version, it will ask if you wish to Repair your current installation or
install fresh. Press R, that will run a repair installation. From there
on, follow the screens.

If you only have a recovery CD, your options are quite limited. You can
either purchase a retail version of XP will allow you to perform the above
among other tools and options it has or you can run your system recovery
routine with the Recovery CD which will likely wipe your drive, deleting all
files but will restore your setup to factory fresh condition.


Second, assuming
 
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Big Mac

Jay Cee said:
Hi all:
recently bought a Harddrive and external USB Hardrive case to use as a
backup for all my important data. Was just wondering if there was a program
that would completely copy my internal harddrive to the external?? What I
mean is a complete copy, that if i lost my internal harddrive i could
replace it with the external and comp would boot up and run the same?
I have partitioned the internal to make a C:, D:, E: and F: drive out of my
120 GB - will any program recognize these partions and duplicate them?

Jay, to get a complete copy - an "image", you need imaging software.
I have Norton Ghost, but there are a few others.

The problem you might run into is the same one I have - I have an
external USB drive for backing up. It works fine. If it is turned
on, my computer assigns it a letter designation, but if turned off,
the letter designation disappears. However, I don't think, if I image
my C: drive to the USB external, that I can boot from it.

I have to investigate further as to just what my options are for
imaging back over to the C: drive without being able to install from
it.

Big Mac
 
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DGS

-----Original Message-----
duplicate them?

Jay, to get a complete copy - an "image", you need imaging software.
I have Norton Ghost, but there are a few others.

The problem you might run into is the same one I have - I have an
external USB drive for backing up. It works fine. If it is turned
on, my computer assigns it a letter designation, but if turned off,
the letter designation disappears. However, I don't think, if I image
my C: drive to the USB external, that I can boot from it.

I have to investigate further as to just what my options are for
imaging back over to the C: drive without being able to install from
it.

Big Mac
.
I bought Lockstep Backup for one and it seems very easy
to configure and run.
I have an external 40 gig Western Digital hard drive Usb
2 under drive configuration G, It is easy to access to do
your backup whenever you want or automate the program and
it will do it at whatever way you want it to do.
See www..backup-for-one.com
Good luck.
DGS
 
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Gene K

Mac,
I have an Maxtor External Drive for my backups. It came with with an
incremental backup program (NOT an image program such as Ghost; however,
that will be my next purchase) named Retrospect Express. Realizing that
there is no present way in the BIOS to boot from an external; this
program will prepare a preparatory bootup CD for you. Cannot yet say if
it all works well since I have not ran a test.
In your case, you are going have a boot CD [maybe the Windows OS CD] or
a boot floppy since I have not yet heard of a BIOS which allows a
computer to boot from other than a CD, Floppy, or the Hard Drive on
which the OS resides. Perhaps that is due for a change.
 
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Big Mac

Gene K said:
Mac,
I have an Maxtor External Drive for my backups. It came with with an
incremental backup program (NOT an image program such as Ghost; however,
that will be my next purchase) named Retrospect Express. Realizing that
there is no present way in the BIOS to boot from an external; this
program will prepare a preparatory bootup CD for you. Cannot yet say if
it all works well since I have not ran a test.
In your case, you are going have a boot CD [maybe the Windows OS CD] or
a boot floppy since I have not yet heard of a BIOS which allows a
computer to boot from other than a CD, Floppy, or the Hard Drive on
which the OS resides. Perhaps that is due for a change.

Well Ghost did make a bootable floppy. I am trying to remember. I
believe it was a DOS boot disk. But I do not know, even though Ghost
made it, if it can copy an image back over to a C: drive. I am going
to have to do some research as I see no one has answered who has Ghost
and knows. I remember it said "in case of problems", but that is all
I remember.

I am wondering why, since the CD drive is bootable, why Ghost doesn't
make a nice bootable CD with lots of software on it just for booting &
copying an image back over to the C: drive.

Big Mac
 

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