'back up your system'

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Mr Harmon

When Microsoft tell me to 'back up my system' before they
reform my C: hardrive, or when I install an upgrade or a
patch, how do I 'back up my sytem?'

What is involved? Do I have to back up the whole C drive,
or do I just back up windows? Just what is included and
what are the steps? I have gone throught the 'help
folder' till I am am blue in the face and all it talks
about is 'restore my system'. I need to back it up
first.

Is there a tech-letter that I am missing? Your help will
be greatly appreciated.

Beverly
 
It sounds like what it's telling you is to save all your files before you continue so you don't lose your work before it restarts your PC.
It don't necessarily mean you have stuff to save just a warning to make sure you didn't do some work on the PC and didn't save it.
 
Yes, I agree, but how. I find no verse, book, and
chapter anywhere as to what specifically is to be backed
up and and how to do it. Does XP have built in software
which provides for this 'back up your files' or do I have
to have 3 party software, and for that matter 3rd party
hardware?

What will be done is to format the C drive, which will
remove all existing information from it. I can reinstall
all of the programs, but what is it that they feel I must
backup which I cannot necessarily reinstall?????

I guess I am pretty plus and minus in the way I see
things. It has to be spelled out.
-----Original Message-----
It sounds like what it's telling you is to save all your
files before you continue so you don't lose your work
before it restarts your PC.
It don't necessarily mean you have stuff to save just a
warning to make sure you didn't do some work on the PC
and didn't save it.
 
When Microsoft tell me to 'back up my system' before they
reform my C: hardrive, or when I install an upgrade or a
patch, how do I 'back up my sytem?'

What is involved? Do I have to back up the whole C drive,
or do I just back up windows? Just what is included and
what are the steps? I have gone throught the 'help
folder' till I am am blue in the face and all it talks
about is 'restore my system'. I need to back it up
first.

Is there a tech-letter that I am missing? Your help will
be greatly appreciated.

Beverly

Well you don't need to back up Windows since you should already have a Windows
install disk. You don't need to back up any software you've bought since you
already have the disks necessary to reinstall those programs. You need to back
up things for which you have no other copy. This includes but is not limited
to things such as Windows updates and patches you've downloaded, shareware
you've installed, any documents, pictures, mp3's etc. that you want to save.
Usually if you download stuff from the internet it downloads as some sort of
compressed file. That's the file you want to make a backup copy of. If you
have a finance program such as Quicken on your computer you'll want to back up
the information in that. You'll want to backup your internet settings, your
favorite places, and your address book. You'll also want to back up any saved
games so you don't have to start all over again at level 1 in a game when
you've already reached level 20. There are other things you may want to
consider backing up but I think you get the picture. If you post back with a
specific question on how to backup a specific item I'm sure someone here will
tell you how to back it up.
 
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mYRhARMON said:
Yes, I agree, but how. I find no verse, book, and
chapter anywhere as to what specifically is to be backed
up and and how to do it.



That's because it doesn't exist. There are many approaches to
backup, and one person's approach isn't necessarily best for
everyone else.

First of all, almost everyone should be backing up regularly, not
just now when you are about to format and reinstall. It is always
possible that a hard drive crash, user error, nearby lightning
strike, virus attack, even theft of the computer, can cause the
loss of everything on your drive. As has often been said, it's
not a matter of whether you will have such a problem, but when.

Essentially you should back up what you can't afford to
lose--what you can't readily recreate. What that is depends on
how you use your computer and what you use it for.

It takes time and effort to backup, but it also takes time and
effort to recreate lost data. If you back up daily, you should
never have to recreate more than one day's worth of last data. If
weekly, there's potentially a lot more to recreate. You should
assess how much pain and trouble you would have if you lost x
days of data, and then choose a backup frequency that doesn't
involve more pain and trouble than that you would have if you had
to recreate what was lost.

At one extreme is the professional user who would likely go out
of business if his data was lost. He probably needs to back up at
least daily. At the other extreme is the kid who doesn't use his
game except to play games. He probably needs no backup at all,
since worst case he can easily reinstall his games.

Most of us fall somewhere between those extremes, but nobody can
tell you where you fall; you need to determine that for yourself.

Should you back up Windows? Should you back up your applications?
Most people will tell you no, since you can always reinstall
these easily from the original media. But I don't think the
answer is so clear-cut. Many people have substantial time and
effort invested in customizing Windows and configuring their apps
to work the way they want to. Putting all of that back the way it
was can be a difficult, time-consuming effort. Whether you should
backup up Windows and apps depends, once again, on you.

How to backup? What software to use? There are many choices,
including the Windows-supplied backup program. Which choice is
best for you depends at least in part on the answers to some of
the questions above.

Finally what backup media should you choose, and how should it be
stored? There are many choices, including CDs, tape, zip drives,
and second hard drives.

I don't recommend backup to a second non-removable hard drive
because it leaves you susceptible to simultaneous loss of the
original and backup to many of the most common dangers: severe
power glitches, nearby lightning strikes, virus attacks, even
theft of the computer.

In my view, secure backup needs to be on removable media, and not
kept in the computer. For *really* secure backup (needed, for
example, if the life of your business depends on your data) you
should have multiple generations of backup, and at least one of
those generations should be stored off-site.

My computer isn't used for business, but my personal backup
scheme uses two identical removable hard drives, which fit into a
sleeve installed in the computer. I alternate between the two,
and use Drive Image to make a complete copy of the primary drive.
 
When Microsoft tell me to 'back up my system' before they
reform my C: hardrive, or when I install an upgrade or a
patch, how do I 'back up my sytem?'

What is involved? Do I have to back up the whole C drive,
or do I just back up windows? Just what is included and
what are the steps? I have gone throught the 'help
folder' till I am am blue in the face and all it talks
about is 'restore my system'. I need to back it up
first.

Is there a tech-letter that I am missing? Your help will
be greatly appreciated.

Beverly

When backing up. It means backup what you CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE!
In most cases that is data, most user data is stored in C:\Documents
and Setttings, so I suggest you backup or copy that to offline storage
such as CDR/RW, DVD/R, Zip/Jaz, USB MEmory, Tape etc.

Peter Hutchison
 
justme said:
Gee, the op only had to wait 11 days for an answer.

(snip the original post since it was answered)

And did *you* provide an answer earlier? You apparently think this is
Microsoft tech support - which it isn't - or that somehow answers are
"owed" to posters. All of us who post on this newsgroup do so as
volunteers, on our own time. Frankly, sometimes after spending 14 hours
cleaning up infected Windows machines, I don't feel like answering some
more virus-related questions in a newsgroup or have the energy to give
a full explanation of backing up to someone. I do enjoy helping people
and I try to post at least a little every day. However, this is a
*volunteer* activity, like a lawyer doing pro bono work. There are many
other resources to help with Windows problems, starting with Google and
including /Yellow Pages/Computer Repair.

Here are some links explaining about Usenet so that you can adjust your
expectations:

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page3.html#12-09-02 - a brief
explanation of newsgroups
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/support/news/howto
default.asp (enter url on one line in browser addressbar)
http://aumha.org/nntp.htm - list of MS newsgroups
microsoft.public.test.here - MS group to test if your newsreader is
working properly

Malke
 

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