Back up drive help

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Chrisj

I'm Trying to make a back up drive so I can ghost my main hard drives,
which are 2 WD 74 gig sata drives running raid 0, and an additional WD 120
gig eide for additional storage. All are running XP Pro service pack 1. My
problem is I can't seem to format a hd that is reconized by my sysytem. I've
tried 2 different disks, both WD 120 gig hd's. I've formated them with a
win98 boot disk, with WD's Tools. But no matter what I do when I try to boot
up it says ntlr not found. The bios is set for all scsi drives(btw the mb is
an asus A7N8X Deluxe). So it should not be trying to boot from that drive
should it? Also I've tried jumpers of cable select and master slave combos
What do I need to do to just make a blank hd that is read by my system. Any
help would be appreciated
 
M

Michael Hawes

Chrisj said:
I'm Trying to make a back up drive so I can ghost my main hard drives,
which are 2 WD 74 gig sata drives running raid 0, and an additional WD 120
gig eide for additional storage. All are running XP Pro service pack 1. My
problem is I can't seem to format a hd that is reconized by my sysytem. I've
tried 2 different disks, both WD 120 gig hd's. I've formated them with a
win98 boot disk, with WD's Tools. But no matter what I do when I try to boot
up it says ntlr not found. The bios is set for all scsi drives(btw the mb is
an asus A7N8X Deluxe). So it should not be trying to boot from that drive
should it? Also I've tried jumpers of cable select and master slave combos
What do I need to do to just make a blank hd that is read by my system. Any
help would be appreciated
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Are you trying to clone a drive, or make ghost images for backup? If you
have 150GB (Raid 0) + 120GB additional you are not going to fit that on a
120GB drive. Connect the additional drive to the appropriate connector.
Check it shows in BIOS. Then use Disk Manager to partition the drive with an
extended partition and format it NTFS. Use Ghost to create image files on
the new drive.
Mike.
 
G

Gary C

Are you trying to clone a drive, or make ghost images for backup?
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Michael, I am just trying to learn here.
Could you explain the differences or provide a URL?
 
M

Michael Hawes

Gary C said:
Michael, I am just trying to learn here.
Could you explain the differences or provide a URL?
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If you clone your raid 0 drives onto the new 120GB (The data must be
less than 120GB) you can use it as a replacement for the raid drives. If you
format it as NTFS you can use Ghost to make an image of the raid drives onto
the spare drive, which can be set to use compression, so the filename.gho
file contains all the data and can be restored to a new pair of drives if
required. I think you need to RTFM.
Mike.
 
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Gary C

read the freaking manual
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oh, I see, thanks.
So Michael Hawes thinks I should read a ****ing manual that
I do not have, eh? I don't have it because the OP has the
****ing manual. I don't have the ****ing manual to this software
that clones or images that ****ing Michael ****ing Hawes spoke
of, because I do not ****ing own that either.

I think I asked politely, when I asked for information.So if typing the explanation was such a burden, Michael could have
just easily ignored my request.

So Michael Hawes: Read THIS!
I got your ****ing manual right here, swinging between my legs.
 
J

johnp

Gary C said:
oh, I see, thanks.
So Michael Hawes thinks I should read a ****ing manual that
I do not have, eh? I don't have it because the OP has the
****ing manual. I don't have the ****ing manual to this software
that clones or images that ****ing Michael ****ing Hawes spoke
of, because I do not ****ing own that either.

I think I asked politely, when I asked for information.
So if typing the explanation was such a burden, Michael could have
just easily ignored my request.

So Michael Hawes: Read THIS!
I got your ****ing manual right here, swinging between my legs.
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I think you need to take deep breaths. RTFM has become a common phrase these
days, and does not often meant to literally F*** Off.
I think Michael gave an explanation and meant that if you want to learn more
that maybe, possibly, a manual might help out.

HTH
 
M

Michael Hawes

johnp said:
I think you need to take deep breaths. RTFM has become a common phrase these
days, and does not often meant to literally F*** Off.
I think Michael gave an explanation and meant that if you want to learn more
that maybe, possibly, a manual might help out.

HTH
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Some people need to remember this is a newsGROUP! I was replying to
GROUP, not the previous post personally. If you are not the OT, then take it
so bloody PERSONAL! If you want to lurk, thats fine, just remember most
replies are aimed at the OT.
PS, if JAD ([email protected] is your real email address, I expect
you get plenty of SPAM. :)
Mike.
 
J

JAD

Michael Hawes said:
Some people need to remember this is a newsGROUP! I was replying to
GROUP, not the previous post personally. If you are not the OT, then take
it
so bloody PERSONAL! If you want to lurk, thats fine, just remember most
replies are aimed at the OT.
PS, if JAD ([email protected] is your real email address, I
expect
you get plenty of SPAM. :)
Mike.
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No and NO... Hey I just translated what RTFM meant(and I might add was the
polite version)...I did not direct him to do so...however manuals are easily
gotten over the web for almost everything.
 
G

Gary C

I think you need to take deep breaths. RTFM has become a common phrase these
days, and does not often meant to literally F*** Off.
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Well John, I appreciate you trying to moderate, but in my world it has become
common to use ones head before using ones mouth, or fingers in this instance.
I think Michael gave an explanation and meant that if you want to learn more
that maybe, possibly, a manual might help out.
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Yes, maybe. But which manual do you suppose he was referring to?
WinXP? WD? (which I do not own) Asus? (which I do not own)

Or maybe Michael meant I should go to the computer shop and say:
Hi, do you have an Asus A7N8X deluxe in stock?
Yes, we do!
Good, I want to buy JUST the manual, because Michael told me RTFM on usenet!
How much will that be?

See what I mean about using one's head before his mouth?
Maybe RTFM should mean the writer/user is a Real Total ****ing Moron.
 
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Gary C

Some people need to remember this is a newsGROUP! I was replying to
GROUP, not the previous post personally.
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Your ass, Mike. You quoted me specifically, and responded to my queston.
Want proof?

{I wrote}
If you clone your raid 0 drives onto the new 120GB (The data must be
less than 120GB) you can use it as a replacement for the raid drives. If you
format it as NTFS you can use Ghost to make an image of the raid drives onto
the spare drive, which can be set to use compression, so the filename.gho
file contains all the data and can be restored to a new pair of drives if
required. I think you need to RTFM.
Mike.
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If you are not the OT, then take it
so bloody PERSONAL!
Huh?

If you want to lurk, thats fine, just remember most
replies are aimed at the OT.
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Oh stop your bullshit. You did NOT respond to chrisJ.
He has yet to respond in this thread.

The poor guy is probably afraid to respond now because some
pompous *bloody* ass will tell him to read the ****ing manual,
if he asked another question.

Try this on for size! ITYAFJ,KMFAAGFY
 
J

johnp

Gary C said:
Well John, I appreciate you trying to moderate, but in my world it has
become
common to use ones head before using ones mouth, or fingers in this
instance.


Yes, maybe. But which manual do you suppose he was referring to?
WinXP? WD? (which I do not own) Asus? (which I do not own)

Or maybe Michael meant I should go to the computer shop and say:
Hi, do you have an Asus A7N8X deluxe in stock?
Yes, we do!
Good, I want to buy JUST the manual, because Michael told me RTFM on
usenet!
How much will that be?
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A quick Google and look what I found....
http://www.asus.com/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=A7N8X
Have a look around, you might find more...
See what I mean about using one's head before his mouth?
Maybe RTFM should mean the writer/user is a Real Total ****ing Moron.
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See above.....
 
P

pertheusual

Well, I can't say as to why the drive isn't working. Just see if it is
in the Drive Manager. If not, we shall see. As far as ghost goes,
however, Norton Ghost doesn't work with Raid. I unfortunately found
this out the hard way and screwed up the partitions on my computer.
They really should put that warning somewhere you can see it.
 
M

Michael Hawes

Gary C said:
Well John, I appreciate you trying to moderate, but in my world it has become
common to use ones head before using ones mouth, or fingers in this instance.

Yes, maybe. But which manual do you suppose he was referring to?
WinXP? WD? (which I do not own) Asus? (which I do not own)

Or maybe Michael meant I should go to the computer shop and say:
Hi, do you have an Asus A7N8X deluxe in stock?
Yes, we do!
Good, I want to buy JUST the manual, because Michael told me RTFM on usenet!
How much will that be?

See what I mean about using one's head before his mouth?
Maybe RTFM should mean the writer/user is a Real Total ****ing Moron.
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The original post was from Chrisj <[email protected]>, and was not
clear on what he was trying to acheive. It was also not clear what type of
drive he was trying to add. He said he was trying to 'ghost' , so RTFM was
aimed at the Ghost manual.
Mike.
 

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