Attributes (net1.1) Quick answer needed

J

Jon Skeet [C# MVP]

Steven said:
Luckily I am not here to make friend heh?

No, but you might want to consider the possibility that you'll want to
ask a question here again. I suspect that after reading this thread,
next time you ask a question many people will just move on to the next
post. There are always more questions to answer...

Jon
 
M

Michael.Suarez

"Give me a break. Are all Americans like you? Shouldn't you be spending

more time oppressing 3rd world countries or something? "

unreal...

if people weren't offended or disgusted already, then they almost
certainly are now.

the fact of the matter is, whether intentional or not, it is clear that
the first post of this thread can be and has been interpreted as rude.

If you are unable to see that, then God help you.

P.S. - as far as your "what university did you get your psychology
degree at?" comment, I believe it was you who said:
"If my simple post requesting haste actually "offended" someone then
that person should perhaps be seeking psychological treatment? "
 
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Once again, luckily I am not here to make friends heh?
If my simple post requesting haste actually "offended" someone then
that person should perhaps be seeking psychological treatment?
Further, if there was actual offence taken, then those individuals
should speak up and I shall call them personally to apologise.

Personally I think that your statement that I have offended people was
used a little too loosely. If people are going to get worked up over a
simple post like mine then the issue is their's, not mine.

Still, I am sorry to all those I have offended. Please email me
"(e-mail address removed)" and I will call you to apologise in person.

Maybe we can all get together and have a cry about the whole thing?
Loosen up people, life's too short to worry about little stuff like
this. Get over it.

Your initial post somehow suggested that posting here was somehow faster
than actually testing it yourself. Or, let me word this another way: Your
time is too valuable to actually test and implement something, so you hoped
someone else would do that for you and tell you the right answer. In summary,
instead of spending 5 minutes testing it you spent 1 minute firing off a
newsgroup post and hoped someone else would do your job.

The responses, mine included, suggested that testing it would be faster in
the sense that you would have the answer sooner. If, on the other hand, your
way of "faster" means "I hope someone else will do my job" then I'm sorry
to disappoint you, the world does not work this way, nor does the newsgroups.

In real life, most of the time anyway, things work on the basis that "you
get what you pay for". In the newsgroups, your "payment" to put it like this
is simply the assumption that if you're given an answer to your question
you might spend some time here, actually answering some questions yourself.

Since you've demonstrated that you think your time is more valuable than
ours, I'd say the chance of that is zilch. As such what you got was close
to nothing, as it should be.

Finally, if your goal with your posts on this newsgroup is, as you so eloquently
posted above, "I am not here to make friends" then I'd say you succeeded.

Basically you've made sure nobody that reads these newsgroups over time will
even remotely think of answering any question you might have in the future.
Additionally, employers who use Google when interviewing people might think
twice about your skills and ability to fit into a workplace. We all make
choices, most of the time they come back to us one way or another.

And yes, life is too short to worry about little stuff like this, which is
why you probably ended up in a lot of killfilters today.

Mine included.
 
S

Steven Nagy

This cracked me up! You are a funny guy.
I love freedom of speech. It means that someone like you can input into
a conversation without reading all the previous posts.
I'll just reference one paragraph of one of my previous posts to help
you get up to speed with the conversation:

"
I like to contribute as much to this community as I can. I like to help

others.
However yesterday I was in a pickle and was not in a position to sit at

a computer with VS on it; I was at a client's office.
I needed to know the answer and was not in a position to find it out
myself.
"

Really, you should also do a search to see how much I have contributed
to this group.
I do more than my share to help others. So you really should do your
research before making ignorant comments.
 
S

Steven Nagy

I can't believe that you jumped on this band wagon of all people.
I thought that you were more mature and intelligent than these other
cry babies.

I come to this group everyday to see if there are any questions to
answer.
Then when I needed some urgent help, I get cained for it.

Its a shame that this is what "community" means now days.
 
M

Michael C

Steven Nagy said:
Really, you should also do a search to see how much I have contributed
to this group.
I do more than my share to help others. So you really should do your
research before making ignorant comments.

Who said you didn't contribute? All everyone has been saying is that your
initial post was rude and your subsequent posts have been getting ruder and
ruder in a desperate attempt to somehow prove you aren't rude. Even you
should see the funny side of that :)

Michael
 
M

Michael C

Steven Nagy said:
I can't believe that you jumped on this band wagon of all people.
I thought that you were more mature and intelligent than these other
cry babies.

When everyone is giving you a hard time perhaps you should stop and consider
maybe there is a reason for it.

Michael
 
S

Steven Nagy

I accept that I may have been rude in later posts, but definately not
in the original.
I was simply trying to convey urgency.
Unfortunately it was interpreted incorrectly, and that is not my fault.
And unfortunately, pointing out that someone else is rude, is in fact
rude in itself, especially when the other person was not being rude.
 
S

Steven Nagy

Have you ever seen the movie "Brazil"?

I think that in this situation, I am a lot like the main character, and
the rest of you are a lot like the oppressive government.

But its ok... if you lock me up in a military base in Cuba, you can do
whatever you like to me and you can finally shut me up, perhaps even
brain wash me a bit.

I love you guys.
 
S

Steven Nagy

Have you ever seen the movie "Brazil"?

I think that in this situation, I am a lot like the main character, and
the rest of you are a lot like the oppressive government.

But its ok... if you lock me up in a military base in Cuba, you can do
whatever you like to me and you can finally shut me up, perhaps even
brain wash me a bit.

I love you guys.
 
M

Michael C

Steven Nagy said:
I accept that I may have been rude in later posts, but definately not
in the original.
I was simply trying to convey urgency.
Unfortunately it was interpreted incorrectly, and that is not my fault.
And unfortunately, pointing out that someone else is rude, is in fact
rude in itself, especially when the other person was not being rude.

A accept you didn't mean to be rude but your initial post definately did
come across as rude. You can be the replies.

Michael
 
M

Michael C

let me try that again ... :)

Steven Nagy said:
I accept that I may have been rude in later posts, but definately not
in the original.
I was simply trying to convey urgency.
Unfortunately it was interpreted incorrectly, and that is not my fault.
And unfortunately, pointing out that someone else is rude, is in fact
rude in itself, especially when the other person was not being rude.

I accept you didn't mean to be rude but your initial post definately did
come across as rude. You can tell by the replies.

Michael
 
S

Steven Nagy

So should those people who responded perhaps have sought clarification
about my intentions first instead of delivering a speech worth of an
oscar?
 
M

Michael C

Steven Nagy said:
So should those people who responded perhaps have sought clarification
about my intentions first instead of delivering a speech worth of an
oscar?

These people were about as polite as they could have been, I'm not sure what
more you want. Nick said your post "sounds rude", he seemed to assume you
didn't mean it so there was no need to ask for clarification.

Michael
 
S

Steven Nagy

What I don't understand is that despite perception, most people were
more interested in criticising than answering the question.
Why not answer first, then criticise later? Especially as Nick
indicated that the post "sounds rude" but if he personally wasn't sure,
he could still have answered the question.
But rather than solving the problem, more people were insterested in
"educating" me in the "appropriates" of group postings.

Luckily someone was more interested in actually serving a useful
purpose rather than just deciding to point out the faults of others.

Thanks to Mattias for the quick answer.
 
J

Jon Skeet [C# MVP]

Steven Nagy said:
I can't believe that you jumped on this band wagon of all people.
I thought that you were more mature and intelligent than these other
cry babies.

I've always stuck up for courtesy in the group.
I come to this group everyday to see if there are any questions to
answer.
Then when I needed some urgent help, I get cained for it.

Yes, because you asked for it in a slightly rude way, and then
responded in a very rude way when you were called on that. Do you
understand that if you'd just explained to start with that you were on
a computer without VS on it, instead of saying you didn't have *time*
to test it for yourself, and that a "quick answer" was needed, none of
this would have happened? Pretty much every question on here is
important to the person asking it - everyone would *like* a quick
answer.
Its a shame that this is what "community" means now days.

Community includes being polite. You weren't, in my view and clearly in
the view of others.
 
J

Jon Skeet [C# MVP]

Steven Nagy said:
What I don't understand is that despite perception, most people were
more interested in criticising than answering the question.

The question had been answered (by Mattias) less than two hours after
you asked it.
Why not answer first, then criticise later? Especially as Nick
indicated that the post "sounds rude" but if he personally wasn't sure,
he could still have answered the question.

The question had already been answered. What good would duplication of
that answer have done?
 
M

Michael.Suarez

Ok. So what, specifically, about my post implies that I haven't read
all of the previous posts?
Also, which of the comments made in the post you responded to were
ignorant?
 
M

Michael.Suarez

Ok. So what, specifically, about my post implies that I haven't read
all of the previous posts?
Also, which of the comments made in the post you responded to were
ignorant?
 
D

dkode

I have never seen any posts by Steve Nagy before, but after reading
this thread, I will make it a point to not answer any of his posts. I
really dislike it when people say they need an "quick answer". I just
skip over those postings
 

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