ATI X1600 Cards

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Daniel

SchoolTech said:
What makes you think I only want to spend $90 on a bottom of the range
card?

Because that will do the job just as well as the X1600pro. It's just my
recommendation. Your completely entitled to ignore it.

If you want to spend $250-$300 on a card for what it is basically 2D
rendering, then that's up to you.
 
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Daniel

SchoolTech said:
Daniel wrote:

No we are sticking with tried and true, professionally developed and
supported. We believe in excellence.

The X1600 is actually what they recommend - the cards are good value and
for some capabilities they recommend even higher end gear.

Don't tell me to buy a crap Radeon X300!

Who told you that the X1600 is the recommended card?
 
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Daniel

Daniel said:
Who told you that the X1600 is the recommended card?

Actaully - forget it. I'm sure you know what you're doing.

For the record I've used MediaShout 2 and 3 on a "crappy" 128MB FX5200
(low-end 64-bit version). Only issue we had was to remember to use MPEG2
encoded media files for the h/w decoder on the card. Apart from that,
the card handled everything like a breeze.
 
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SchoolTech

Daniel said:
Because that will do the job just as well as the X1600pro. It's just my
recommendation. Your completely entitled to ignore it.

If you want to spend $250-$300 on a card for what it is basically 2D
rendering, then that's up to you.

No, the higher spec card is significantly faster, and will support
better effects.
 
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SchoolTech

Daniel said:
Who told you that the X1600 is the recommended card?

The people who tested their application with it.

I'd say they know a lot more about that than you do.
 
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Daniel

SchoolTech said:
The people who tested their application with it.

I'd say they know a lot more about that than you do.

Aaargh!!!

I've just realised I've been talking to Roger Sheppard.

Are you going to church now mate?
 
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zipdisk

I'm guessing your buying this for a wee bit of gaming (yes?).

Assuming your budget is in the $300 NZD range, and that you'd prefer to
buy from Ascent (which is entirely understandable), then would not
something like a 7600GS or 6600GT be a better option?



He is after a PCe-16 from the looks of it, but your suggestion for the 7600GS
is a Good one..

Nvidia has far better support.

But this Budget card looks good


http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=articles&go=read&arc_id=86
 
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zipdisk

Have a look at the Zalman heatpipe passive heatsinks. Around 50-60 bucks.

http://www.ascent.co.nz/ProductSpecification.aspx?ItemID=117445

I put one on my graphics card just to cut the noise from that horrid cheap busy
little fan. This sucker is huge (covers both sides of the card, and provides
extra heatsinks for the ram chips, and it barely gets warm to the touch.
I DID have to remove the oem cooler, obviously. The model I use has two
heatpipes between top and bottom layer, I think it's the 50-D from memory, but
I am not sure.

-P.



Leave Passive cooler well alone, they just cause far to much heat inside the
case, unless you are going water cooled..
 
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Don Hills

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|The people who tested their application with it.
|I'd say they know a lot more about that than you do.

I wouldn't say that. They tested it on what they had, so that's what they
recommend. Very few development houses have the resources to test on a wide
enough range of hardware to be able to provide minimum as well as
recommended specifications.
 
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Peter Huebner

Leave Passive cooler well alone, they just cause far to much heat inside the
case, unless you are going water cooled..

lmao - a passive cooler has to dissipate exactly the same amount of heat,
generated by the gpu, as an active cooler. In fact, your active cooler will add
just a tiny amount MORE heat, through the energy expenditure of the fan.

To get the heat out of the case, you have the case fan(s) and psu unless you
are actually looking at one of those Swiss made after market vga coolers
(Arctic Cooling) that take up two slots and blow the gpu heat directly out of
the case. But who has one of those? Besides they are a bitch to fit and do not
fit every make of video card, even where they say they do (had to send one back
myself).

Nothing wrong with passive cooling so long as the dissipation of the heatsink
can keep up with the heat generation by the gpu.

-P.
 
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Steve

No we are sticking with tried and true, professionally developed and
supported. We believe in excellence.

Ho ho ho ho ho.....

Watch out for the paradigm shift, there'll not be much work for you with
that (misguided) attitude in a year or so.
 
M

~misfit~

Peter said:
lmao - a passive cooler has to dissipate exactly the same amount of
heat, generated by the gpu, as an active cooler. In fact, your active
cooler will add just a tiny amount MORE heat, through the energy
expenditure of the fan.

You do realise that you're trying to talk sense to Roger right? He doesn't
understand that language.

Shite!!! Just noticed the amount of cross-posting. Might have to add
Schooltech to the bozo-bin, all he ever does is ask questions and now he's
dragging the whole of usenet into our little corner.
 
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SchoolTech

He is after a PCe-16 from the looks of it, but your suggestion for the 7600GS
is a Good one..

Nvidia has far better support.

But this Budget card looks good


http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=articles&go=read&arc_id=86

We had ATI and we had NVidia, the ATI card wasn't so dumb as to disable
the secondary because it couldn't detect one, it lets us connect the
secondary after startup and enable it with one mouseclick.

The useless NVidia card wouldn't even enable the secondary, just because
it couldn't detect a monitor.
 
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SchoolTech

Daniel said:
Aaargh!!!

I've just realised I've been talking to Roger Sheppard.

What a pathetic excuse.
You will have to think up a better one than that to excuse your rank
incompetence.
Maybe you will have to get another alias like Roger does.
 
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Daniel

Don said:
|
|The people who tested their application with it.
|I'd say they know a lot more about that than you do.

I wouldn't say that. They tested it on what they had, so that's what they
recommend. Very few development houses have the resources to test on a wide
enough range of hardware to be able to provide minimum as well as
recommended specifications.

Exactly.
 
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Daniel

SchoolTech said:
People who develop this kind of software.

They test in real world situations to see what the hardware can do with it.

Again - what people?

What software are you talking about - is it MediaShout or SongShow (or
did you just Google and find any old presentation software?)

Seems like you're just making this all up as you go along.
 

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