Ati all in wonder pci express

[Guest]

I have a new ati all in wonder card and windows vista.For ati, the wonder is,
will it ever work?...and for microsoft the woa starts now! I am ready to jump
on board with any class action suit! I have been submitting help tickets to
ati tech support every day for weeks and they wont give me a straight forth
answer to if the tv will ever function in vista.. I definately wont be using
AMD or ATI in any of my computers again!there should be a warning on the box!
Shame on you microsoft and Ati!

 

[LaRoux]

Which part of this is Microsoft's fault?

 

[Paul-B]

I have a new ati all in wonder card and windows vista.For ati, the
wonder is, will it ever work?...and for microsoft the woa starts now!
I am ready to jump on board with any class action suit! I have been
submitting help tickets to ati tech support every day for weeks and
they wont give me a straight forth answer to if the tv will ever
function in vista.. I definately wont be using AMD or ATI in any of
my computers again!there should be a warning on the box! Shame on
you microsoft and Ati!

Is the card Vista approved?

WTF has AMD got to do with it?

 

[Art]

I'd like to know that too. I have the same card and am aware of the tuner
issue but fail to see how it is Microsoft's fault. Microsoft is not
responsible for ATI putting out updated drivers and ATI never indicated the
card supported Vista.

There are work arounds. This one worked for me. I found it by using
Google.

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?p=1334691881


Art

 

[Art]

Is the card Vista approved?

WTF has AMD got to do with it?

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AMD bought ATI last year.

But, given the fact I have the same card and couldn't find anywhere on the
box where it says it supports Vista I think his "class action" talk is a bit
pre-mature.

I don't blame ATI or Microsoft or anybody. Nobody has broken any promises
here. Sounds like Brian is just a bit frustrated and needs to vent.

Art

 

[Hertz_Donut]

Which part of this is Microsoft's fault?

The part where Microsoft chose not to allow Vista support for VIVO cards
that did not have a hardware MPEG encoder onboard. It was *MICROSOFT* that
made this decision.

Honu

 

[Art]

The part where Microsoft chose not to allow Vista support for VIVO cards
that did not have a hardware MPEG encoder onboard. It was *MICROSOFT*
that made this decision.

Honu

Let me get this straight. If Microsoft tells you they don't support
something, and ATI tells you they don't support something (it's listed on
their site that the tuner won't work under Vista), and you install it anyway
expecting it to work, it's Microsoft's fault?

Art

 

[johnm]

Let me get this straight. If Microsoft tells you they don't support
something, and ATI tells you they don't support something (it's listed on
their site that the tuner won't work under Vista), and you install it
anyway expecting it to work, it's Microsoft's fault?

I can't speak for the op, but in my case, MS's Upgrade Advisor said the card
WOULD work
yea, OK, anybody's fault but MS's

regardless of the existence (or not) of drivers, MS has no business telling
people everything will be fine when clearly, that's not the case.
once again, hats off to the boys on marketing

 

[Art]

I can't speak for the op, but in my case, MS's Upgrade Advisor said the
card WOULD work
yea, OK, anybody's fault but MS's

regardless of the existence (or not) of drivers, MS has no business
telling people everything will be fine when clearly, that's not the case.
once again, hats off to the boys on marketing

I have one too. The upgrade advisor told me it would be capable of
displaying DirectX 9.0 and has the required memory to run Vista (including
Aero). It is. It does. I don't remember the part where the upgrade advisor
said anything about the tuner or capture. ATI's site clearly states the
tuner does not work in Vista.

Do you think it's realistic to expect the upgrade advisor, which works fine
for the vast majority of people, to examine every feature of every card and
provided compatability reports based upon whether or not the manufacturer
has released a full-feature driver? The upgrade advisor is not an
intentionally misleading program from what I've seen. It checks against
it's list (ATI provided a native display driver to MS so it's on the list).
ATI's driver does not support the tuner and now it's "anybody's fault but
MS's"?

As far as "anybody's fault but MS", again, I'm trying to figure out what MS
did wrong in this case (they've done things wrong before and I've called
them on it). They provided an upgrade advisor that certified that the ATI
AIW video card is capable of displaying Vista and the Vista interface and
will run DirectX 9.0. It does.

The card's manufacturer implicitly lists on their site that the tuner does
not work with Vista.

As for the op, at least I offered a solution instead of turning it into a
bitch-fest about MS.

Art

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