Any performance numbers out yet on Opteron 64 vs. G5?

[Snit]

They don't have to be exact in HW components but in overall responsiveness,
functionality and performance. Tell me specifically, with current prices,
which Mac system competes with this.
http://www.macattic.com/ClassicMacs.html

 

[Jim Polaski]

I have repeatedly reported specs here. Most time the Mac has been cheaper,
though not always. Generally they are pretty close.

Here is link I found today:
http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/life/2003/11/04isapplesg5thewo.htm
l

The Mac was $4,349 the PC $5,500 - a rather sizable difference.

The article concludes with "Most routine tasks on the two computers seemed
about equal."

I would love to know how the original poster got a $5000+ PC for less than
half that price.


Again, I have played this game in here. All studies that show Apples better
return on investment are too old to be of any value, and all analogies are
ways to divert from the real issue. The lengths the wintrolls go to is
hilarious, but it does get old.

As far as ROI, kids are harder on computers than any corporate setting
and our district has >1000 Macs. Lifespan, at least 5 years in labs and
then on to classrooms for other tasks like WP, etc. I don't think the
lifespan of a Mac has changed much if at all.

--
Regards,
Jim Polaski
"The measure of a man is what he will do while expecting that he will get nothing in return!"

Macintosh for productivity. Linux for servers. Palm/Visor for mobility. Windows to feed the Black Hole in your IT budget

Windows-the computer you need, Macintosh-The computer you Want!ant!i?e

 

[Steve Hix]

Jim:

This is the wrong NG for us to start a Mac vs PC contest.

Which one is "the wrong" one? You're posting to four different
newsgroups.

 

[Heywood Mogroot]

$250-$300 WITH lifetime support?

That either means crap support, or the company will be long gone in a
hurry!

not to mention a crap computer to go along with it. Apple can't
compete with these prices any more than BMW can compete pricewise with
Kia.

 

[Roy]

My parents still have their II GS boxed up somewhere. I wonder what it's
worth?

 

[Snit]

My parents still have their II GS boxed up somewhere. I wonder what it's
worth?

I used to have one. It was top of the line - 4.25 MB Ram, 170 MB HD (on a
card!), tons of software. Loaned it to someone a few years ago. They moved
without giving it back! Arg! I am still mad. I have a GS emulator that I
still use from time to time (sorta cool, it is a Classic ap, so it is an OS
within an OS within an OS), but it is just not the same. Sigh.

 

[Dan Birchall]

I own Macs and PCs.
Recently did a desktop price comparison for a client:
Dell: $2215
Apple: $4000

Interestingly, I *just* did some price comparisons this evening. I
have a mixed bag of PC's and Macs here; used to be all PC until Apple
got a "real" operating system with OS X. I recently picked up a dual
G5 with 512MB RAM (since upgraded to 1.5GB), 500GB HD, 128MB VRAM, DVD
burner, GigE, Firewire 800, 802.11G and Bluetooth.

A friend was telling that it was overpriced, so I looked up "comparable"
PC's - dual 3GHz Xeon, 512MB RAM, 500GB HD (if I could spec them that
way, some didn't offer that much capacity), 128MB VRAM, DVD-burner
(again, some didn't offer that), GigE, and Firewire (which some didn't
offer). The PC's didn't have 802.11G or Bluetooth even as BTO/CTO options.

Dell Precision 450/512MB/500GB/128VRAM/DVD-burner/GigE/FW400 = $4522
IBM IntelliStation Z Pro/512MB/240GB/64VRAM/48X CD-ROM/GigE = $4565
HP xw6000/512MB/500GB/128VRAM/DVD-Burner/GigE/FW400 = $4612

Considering my G5 was under $3950... I'm having a hard time feeling
like I overpaid...

-Dan

 

[Mike Smith]

Interesting, but there's two glaring errors on the x-bit timeline. The
first, and worst, is that they completely disregard NT4 and NT3.1 (released
and Aug '96 and Sep '93 respectively) in the 32-bit timeline. More
forgivable is the omission of the Alpha, which was released circa 1992, with
a NT4 version (I don't recall a Alpha release of 3.1) coming out around the
same time as the "normal" release IIRC (ie: Sep 96). So taking these into
account, it took 7 years for 32-bit, and about 4 years for 64-bit.

Not to mention that Windows is not the only OS in the world...

 

[Steven Fisher]

Then there are the numerous updates to OS X at $129 each. (BTW OS X was
still in beta when it shipped)

- OS X 10.1 was only $29.95 (or was it $19.95?)
- OS X was not in beta, because it was not labelled beta. You can call
it buggy, I might even agree, but calling it beta is complete nonsense.

 

[CZ]

- OS X was not in beta, because it was not labelled beta. You can call
it buggy, I might even agree, but calling it beta is complete nonsense.


Stephen:

Beta as in not ready for release!

 

[Snit]

it buggy, I might even agree, but calling it beta is complete nonsense.


Stephen:

Beta as in not ready for release!

So XP is beta?

 

[CZ]

So XP is beta?

Snit:

No, it is still in alpha.

(you are quick)

 

[Steven Fisher]

Beta as in not ready for release!

By those standards, I doubt any OS released in the last decade has been
out of beta.