Another flaw in Windows XP

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Furthermore you are no expert in the shell Urban. I suggest you sign like
this:

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Wannabe Windows Shell/User
 
George said:
No Bruce you do not understand the difference between IE and Windows
Explorer. Short answer is very little. Want proof? Type
http://www.microsoft.com in the Windows Explorer address bar and then hit
ENTER.
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That proves nothing beyond the well-known design feature that allows
explore.exe to pass URLs to iexplore.exe for handling. It's been like
that since Win98 and Win2K.


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Right. And is why the Windows Explorer populates slowly. Which is what I
was talking about. This happens as a result of IE 6 not just the
integration of IE with the shell.
 
Windows Explorer populates with great rapidity on my computer.

1. Find the corrupt files and dump them. The system is choking on them.
2. Remove the CD or DVD from the drive. The drives take time to enumerate
all the files.
3. Get a faster computer and hard drive

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If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
George said:
Right. And is why the Windows Explorer populates slowly.
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No. The reason Windows Explorer populates so slowly in your example is
that you have a slow network. The only times I've ever encountered such
lag on a corporate LAN, with much larger storage volumes and many times
that number of files, i are those times when there are problems with the
LAN.


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What constitutes a slow opening of Explorer ? w/ full content. If I
click Explorer, it displays within a second. Only thing I do different
is leave a formatted floppy in the drive, use Launch Folder Windows
in a separate process and delete some of the Namespace items to
keep it from browsing the network.
All kinds of things "Hook" into Explorer and you can trim those back
with a few Registry edits to the Context menu handlers.
If it is indeed slow - then something besides native XP functions are
probably to blame.
 
No. This was happening in the Network drive. Please read what I said.
Follow the directions or bug off.
 
It is not the opening of Windows Explorer although that can also show this
behavior by how the folder tree and files populate in the right-hand pane.
This is a result of Internet Explorer 6. Listen you can see the difference
very easily in Windows 2000. There you see how the folder structure
populates without IE 6 installed. Then go ahead and put IE 6 in. You will
notice the folders populate by cascading. That is NOT the way the folders
poulate with IE 5 or 5.5 in Windows 2000. There they populate all at once.
No cascading.

This behavior in Windows XP is a direct result of IE 6. It is not so
noticable with local drives and not with Network drives in folders that do
not have files which are building. But in folders that are on Network
drives with a large number of files which are building you will see this
behavior very clearly that I op'd on this.
 
Point taken but no man. It is a direct result of IE 6. You do not even
need a Network drive to see this. You see it when View is set to show
thumbnails in folders that have files which will provide thumbnails like
media files. Of course this is also just the generation of the thumbnail.
But I am telling you it is also a contribution of IE 6.
 
Thanks for the detailed explanation, I've not seen or encountered your
specific issue. I was under the impression that it was a general slowness
using Windows Explorer. I have a 2000 VPC and it has shares that
have heavily populated folders. Next time I'm using VPC I'll check on
Explorer and the situation you described.
 
Gentlemen. Please. Am just an oldster browsing thru here looking for some
answers from the experts. From some of what I've seen, though, I'm now to
afraid to ask some types of questions, lest it reveal how dumb I really am,
which is precisely the reason for my own and many other visitors coming here.
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There is really no need to be afraid. Simply ask your question
politely, and many here will be happy to help.

State your problem, giving as much detail as possible.

Declaring how terrible Microsoft is, no matter how passionately you
believe that, would not be helpful, however.

You have, after all, found this newsgroup, which is probably more than
90% of Windows users could manage.

In any event, we do not know who you are, so in the (unlikely) event
someone calls you "dumb" what do you care? Ignore it and keep
reading.
 
"That is NOT the way the folders populate with IE 5 or 5.5 in Windows 2000."

And they did the same as they do now with IE6 in either W2K\XP\W2K3 as it did with IE3.02 and W98. So what is your point George? Also I cannot replicate your issue with W2K and IE 5.5
 
Right R it is not a general slowness of Explorer. Not at all. In fact if
you have a new PC user that is unfamilar with prior versions of Windows you
would not even notice it. Unless you were in a situation as I described in
my op. Then you would notice it. Recall in prior versions how Explorer
would show a red flashlight scanning left and right over a yellow folder
while trying to populate the right-hand pane. Remember that? It does not
exist in Windows XP. Why? Because the issue is Microsoft Internet Explorer
6 that's why. It is a crappy browser. What can I say. Maybe I should be a
little more to the point. It is a crappy browser to have integrated with
the shell. That is where it fails miserably.
 
No they did not Pete but you are probably still stuck on surfing with IE 6.
Copmpletely off the mark but hey stay tuned you may learn something. Right
you cannot replicate the issue in Windows 2000 with IE 5.5 but you sure will
in Windows 2000 and IE 6. Don't believe me? Try it! Go ahead destroy your
installation of Windows 2000 and put it in. Oh I have to be careful here
for those asleep at the wheel.. Not destroy??? How about "change?"

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George Hester
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"That is NOT the way the folders populate with IE 5 or 5.5 in Windows 2000."

And they did the same as they do now with IE6 in either W2K\XP\W2K3 as it
did with IE3.02 and W98. So what is your point George? Also I cannot
replicate your issue with W2K and IE 5.5
 
Declaring how terrible Microsoft is, no matter how passionately you
believe that, would not be helpful, however.
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Why not if it is the truth? If I were into making a consumer product and I
found someone who declared how miserable something I made was and it had
legitamacy I would find it helpful. Of course that's because I have a sense
of ethics.
 
Here George

I am now posting this with W2K and IE6. I say you are wrong.I still cannot replicate as you describe. Tried with W2K and IE5.5 and now with IE6 in W2K.

You are using IE5.5 in W2K. Do like me and install IE6 on your system and post with that. Or do you not have IE6 on any machine that you can post with.

Waiting for you to post the KB that seems to be coming.When are you going to post that.

Regards

Peter
 
George

Check the post properties in my above post. It is the post by pdf and you will see that I posted with W2K and IE6. I can also post to you with W2K and IE 5.5 just like you have. Got a few systems here in this room and I am not able to replicate . You are way off with you comment on this issue.

I still say you are trolling George.



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Here George

I am now posting this with W2K and IE6. I say you are wrong.I still cannot replicate as you describe. Tried with W2K and IE5.5 and now with IE6 in W2K.

You are using IE5.5 in W2K. Do like me and install IE6 on your system and post with that. Or do you not have IE6 on any machine that you can post with.

Waiting for you to post the KB that seems to be coming.When are you going to post that.

Regards

Peter
 
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