Another flaw in Windows XP

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George Hester

The flaw is Microsoft Internet Explorer 6. That's the flaw. The most
Godawful Internet browser on Earth. Here's the test. Make a Network drive
and put in it a number of files that will by default form a thumbs file.
But turn that off anyway switch to Details view. In a folder on this
Network drive put about 300 files in there. Now after you tap your foot a
few times in Windows Exoplorer the right-pane will populate. And if you're
really lucky it never will at all. Since Microsoft removed the status bar
from Windows XP Explorer it is anyone's guess exactly what is going on. Oh
by the way - mine just populated after about 5 mins.
 
Since Microsoft removed the status bar from Windows XP
Explorer it is anyone's guess exactly what is going on.

No, you removed the status bar. To turn it back on...

View | Status Bar!

-Frank
 
George said:
The flaw is Microsoft Internet Explorer 6. That's the flaw. The most
Godawful Internet browser on Earth. Here's the test. Make a Network drive

Stop whining. There are only about 50 other WWW browsers one can use.
 
Do you have anything better to do? Go do it. I suggest standing in front of
a speeding truck for enlightenment and entertainment.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
Well I didn't that was the default. Thanks. Now I get to see what is
happening when it does this again.
 
Richard said:
Do you have anything better to do? Go do it. I suggest standing in front of
a speeding truck for enlightenment and entertainment.

There was a movie where a DragonFly did just that, and got smashed
against a winshield.
 
Hey plato numbnut. It cannot be removed from the operating system. Look
closely at what I said. See when you jump down my throat you may find I
swallow you whole.
 
Well Urbano did I upset your pea brain just a little? Of course if you
believe IE 6 is your browser of love then I can understand why you stick up
for it. But Mr Urban it is not a good browser and it is the browser that
causes Windows Explorer to behave this way. But of course you are asleep at
the wheel and don't see it.
 
Don't care about the browser. I use both I.E. and Firefox. It's just that
you are a pain in the as* with your bulls**t.

Get a life, as my grandchild would say. You don't impress me much!



Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
He has been trolling here for many months. He tries to find flaws in the
operating system and then show how smart he is and how dumb Microsoft is. He
fails as the problems are usually caused by his own ineptitude. I just play
with him.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
Gentlemen. Please. Am just an oldster browsing thru here looking for some
answers from the experts. From some of what I've seen, though, I'm now to
afraid to ask some types of questions, lest it reveal how dumb I really am,
which is precisely the reason for my own and many other visitors coming here.

If we knew all the answers, there'd be no need to come and trouble people
here.
Though I admit, many of us attempt to express our frustrations here out loud
sometimes, as if the experts had anything to do with the dilemma. Fact is and
in truth, I'm as grateful as the rest, honestly, for this opportunity to
seek out some help here . We'd be totally lost without all you gents and
ladies sacrificing your time on our behalf here.

Probably Mr. Hester is just frustrated, like I used to be. Most of the time
we just don't see the answer, which is why we look here. From what I found,
no software product is perfect. It would probably take 10,000 programmers 10
years to come out with something pleasing everyone. That's to long and to
costly. So, in meantime, we have to work with what we have.

If the thing is slow, there's probably a good reason for it. It may be
normal, or may be a bug, low memory or to many startups and services in
memory, or what have you. It could maybe be narrowed down if one stuck to the
facts.

In so far as one of Mr. Plato's replies is concerned (50 other browsers),
that may be so. In fact, I did at one time try out Firefox and it seemed a
bit faster and less
prone to infection, since hackers (of the malicious or maybe just angry
types) mostly concentrate on Explorer.

However, there's at least one major drawback with other browsers, really,
and that is, it's doubtful that any browser out there is allowed to access
Microsoft Update, for one. If there is one, it'd be nice to know, because it
would solve the catch 22 problem.

The problem arises when Explorer gets corrupted or infected (or it seems
that way)
and you can't get access to certain sites like Microsoft Update, etc., to
either look for
help on the matter or get Explorer updated (or repaired maybe) on line, and,
for one reason or another, you don't have the original software any more
either. In some cases, also, Explorer is totally locked out and there's
complete panic. I had this problem for both Win 98 and Win XP - 'though both
OS's were online validated by MS as genuine.

This can be a really maddening and frustrating situation. It could most
likely be quickly solved - if one had another browser with full accesss
capability. But if that browser can't access, then that's catch 22 for you.

Way back when, in the distant past, if I remember correctly, MS did say,
somewhere along the line, that Windows was a universal platform and that it
did not interfere with other aps made to run on it. Yet if you go look at
the Firefox website (I've given up some time back) I think you'll still find
the battle raging over the lack of access to MS updates.

So, in that sense, anyway, I can commiserate with Mr. Hester and his
problems. One should have a choice in the matter, at least when certain
problems (like catch 22, above), arise. One could then more easily determine
where the problem lay and take appropriate action to correct it.

No offense meant. Just looking for some answers.

(Well, I see a link down there which am going to check out just to see
what's going on)

Thank you.
 
Mr. Hester is not frustrated. He just like to stir the pot. He seldom asks
questions. He just makes statements about what he thinks he has found wrong
with the operating system, in the Microsoft documentation of the system or
in a Microsoft web page article.

He is a troll! Intelligent, but still a troll.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

tedoniman said:
Gentlemen. Please. Am just an oldster browsing thru here looking for some
answers from the experts. From some of what I've seen, though, I'm now to
afraid to ask some types of questions, lest it reveal how dumb I really
am,
which is precisely the reason for my own and many other visitors coming
here.

If we knew all the answers, there'd be no need to come and trouble people
here.
Though I admit, many of us attempt to express our frustrations here out
loud
sometimes, as if the experts had anything to do with the dilemma. Fact is
and
in truth, I'm as grateful as the rest, honestly, for this opportunity to
seek out some help here . We'd be totally lost without all you gents and
ladies sacrificing your time on our behalf here.

Probably Mr. Hester is just frustrated, like I used to be. Most of the
time
we just don't see the answer, which is why we look here. From what I
found,
no software product is perfect. It would probably take 10,000 programmers
10
years to come out with something pleasing everyone. That's to long and to
costly. So, in meantime, we have to work with what we have.

If the thing is slow, there's probably a good reason for it. It may be
normal, or may be a bug, low memory or to many startups and services in
memory, or what have you. It could maybe be narrowed down if one stuck to
the
facts.

In so far as one of Mr. Plato's replies is concerned (50 other browsers),
that may be so. In fact, I did at one time try out Firefox and it seemed a
bit faster and less
prone to infection, since hackers (of the malicious or maybe just angry
types) mostly concentrate on Explorer.

However, there's at least one major drawback with other browsers, really,
and that is, it's doubtful that any browser out there is allowed to access
Microsoft Update, for one. If there is one, it'd be nice to know, because
it
would solve the catch 22 problem.

The problem arises when Explorer gets corrupted or infected (or it seems
that way)
and you can't get access to certain sites like Microsoft Update, etc., to
either look for
help on the matter or get Explorer updated (or repaired maybe) on line,
and,
for one reason or another, you don't have the original software any more
either. In some cases, also, Explorer is totally locked out and there's
complete panic. I had this problem for both Win 98 and Win XP - 'though
both
OS's were online validated by MS as genuine.

This can be a really maddening and frustrating situation. It could most
likely be quickly solved - if one had another browser with full accesss
capability. But if that browser can't access, then that's catch 22 for
you.

Way back when, in the distant past, if I remember correctly, MS did say,
somewhere along the line, that Windows was a universal platform and that
it
did not interfere with other aps made to run on it. Yet if you go look at
the Firefox website (I've given up some time back) I think you'll still
find
the battle raging over the lack of access to MS updates.

So, in that sense, anyway, I can commiserate with Mr. Hester and his
problems. One should have a choice in the matter, at least when certain
problems (like catch 22, above), arise. One could then more easily
determine
where the problem lay and take appropriate action to correct it.

No offense meant. Just looking for some answers.

(Well, I see a link down there which am going to check out just to see
what's going on)

Thank you.
 
tedoniman said:
Way back when, in the distant past, if I remember correctly, MS did say,
somewhere along the line, that Windows was a universal platform and that
it
did not interfere with other aps made to run on it. Yet if you go look at
the Firefox website (I've given up some time back) I think you'll still
find
the battle raging over the lack of access to MS updates.

*******************

The browser does not stop you from viewing web pages, or utilizing the
information on them. The browser does not prevent downloads. The coding on
the web page does. Since Microsoft designed the operating system, and since
Internet Explorer is at about a 90% usage by the general population, they
code their web pages for their own browser. If you want to manually download
updates you use Internet Explorer. Or you could just allow automatic updates
to take care of the installations.

I personally see nothing wrong with that.

If Ford also manufactured tires, do you not think that Ford tires would be
installed on all Ford vehicles when you drive away from the showroom?

I use both Firefox and Internet Explorer to view the web, depending upon
what mood I am in at a particular time. Some pages display better in one
than the other. No one need be locked into a particular web browser, but it
is advantageous to have Internet Explorer on your Windows based computer.



--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
George said:
The flaw is Microsoft Internet Explorer 6. That's the flaw. The most
Godawful Internet browser on Earth. Here's the test. Make a Network drive
and put in it a number of files that will by default form a thumbs file.
But turn that off anyway switch to Details view. In a folder on this
Network drive put about 300 files in there. Now after you tap your foot a
few times in Windows Exoplorer the right-pane will populate. And if you're
really lucky it never will at all. Since Microsoft removed the status bar
from Windows XP Explorer it is anyone's guess exactly what is going on. Oh
by the way - mine just populated after about 5 mins.


You don't know the different between Internet Explorer and Windows
Explorer, and you're trying to call that a flaw? Get real.

Oh, and if you so much miss the status bar in Windows Explorer, why
don't you set your view options to show it? Wouldn't it make more sense
to learn how to use a product before you embarrass yourself with such
silly, pointless rants?


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH
 
Hi Ted. Thanks for an intelligent response. But you see I have caught the
"gents" in their nature. Their nature is to jump first and ask questions
later. Because if you read my op carefully I said the slowness is in
Windows Explorer not Internet Explorer. Because the "gents" do not
understand what exactly IE integrated into the operating system really means
(and that is not unusual) they think I am speaking of slowness in IE. Which
I was not. It behovves us to look closely at what is said and not what we
think was said.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
tedoniman said:
Gentlemen. Please. Am just an oldster browsing thru here looking for some
answers from the experts. From some of what I've seen, though, I'm now to
afraid to ask some types of questions, lest it reveal how dumb I really am,
which is precisely the reason for my own and many other visitors coming here.

If we knew all the answers, there'd be no need to come and trouble people
here.
Though I admit, many of us attempt to express our frustrations here out loud
sometimes, as if the experts had anything to do with the dilemma. Fact is and
in truth, I'm as grateful as the rest, honestly, for this opportunity to
seek out some help here . We'd be totally lost without all you gents and
ladies sacrificing your time on our behalf here.

Probably Mr. Hester is just frustrated, like I used to be. Most of the time
we just don't see the answer, which is why we look here. From what I found,
no software product is perfect. It would probably take 10,000 programmers 10
years to come out with something pleasing everyone. That's to long and to
costly. So, in meantime, we have to work with what we have.

If the thing is slow, there's probably a good reason for it. It may be
normal, or may be a bug, low memory or to many startups and services in
memory, or what have you. It could maybe be narrowed down if one stuck to the
facts.

In so far as one of Mr. Plato's replies is concerned (50 other browsers),
that may be so. In fact, I did at one time try out Firefox and it seemed a
bit faster and less
prone to infection, since hackers (of the malicious or maybe just angry
types) mostly concentrate on Explorer.

However, there's at least one major drawback with other browsers, really,
and that is, it's doubtful that any browser out there is allowed to access
Microsoft Update, for one. If there is one, it'd be nice to know, because it
would solve the catch 22 problem.

The problem arises when Explorer gets corrupted or infected (or it seems
that way)
and you can't get access to certain sites like Microsoft Update, etc., to
either look for
help on the matter or get Explorer updated (or repaired maybe) on line, and,
for one reason or another, you don't have the original software any more
either. In some cases, also, Explorer is totally locked out and there's
complete panic. I had this problem for both Win 98 and Win XP - 'though both
OS's were online validated by MS as genuine.

This can be a really maddening and frustrating situation. It could most
likely be quickly solved - if one had another browser with full accesss
capability. But if that browser can't access, then that's catch 22 for you.

Way back when, in the distant past, if I remember correctly, MS did say,
somewhere along the line, that Windows was a universal platform and that it
did not interfere with other aps made to run on it. Yet if you go look at
the Firefox website (I've given up some time back) I think you'll still find
the battle raging over the lack of access to MS updates.

So, in that sense, anyway, I can commiserate with Mr. Hester and his
problems. One should have a choice in the matter, at least when certain
problems (like catch 22, above), arise. One could then more easily determine
where the problem lay and take appropriate action to correct it.

No offense meant. Just looking for some answers.

(Well, I see a link down there which am going to check out just to see
what's going on)

Thank you.
 
Oh you are definitely one smart cookie.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
Richard Urban said:
Mr. Hester is not frustrated. He just like to stir the pot. He seldom asks
questions. He just makes statements about what he thinks he has found wrong
with the operating system, in the Microsoft documentation of the system or
in a Microsoft web page article.

He is a troll! Intelligent, but still a troll.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
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