Am I doing this correct?

G

Guest

First, I am sorry for the long post, but I need to know if I am doing all
this right before I go on with more. I am still working on my site in
FP2003, I have not published yet. Somehow I missed the part where you need
to import the images into FP.

1- I created the new site in FP, saved it to C:\Documents and
Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name, this is what shows at the top of my
folder list in FP, (on the left in the toggle pane). On the folder (thats
located in my documents) it has that green globe image. Is this correct,
shuld it be here, and say this at the top of the toggle pane?

2-In the folder C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name,
there are foldesr named,
Private
_vti_pvt
_vti_cnf
images (in images theres a folder for buttons, and a thumbs.db)

Then there are all the pages I have made in FP with the big blue e next to
them.
Is this correct?

3- after editing my images, I saved them the folder called "images" the one
in C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name. then I used
the insert picture, and ended up with this at the top of all my pages-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sulpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_swapImg() {//v1.0
var doc=document,args=arguments,elm,n; doc.$imgSwaps=new Array(); for(n=2;
n<args.length;
n+=2) { elm=FP_getObjectByID(args[n]); if(elm) {
doc.$imgSwaps[doc.$imgSwaps.length]=elm;
elm.$src=elm.src; elm.src=args[n+1]; } }
}

function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}

function FP_getObjectByID(id,o) {//v1.0
var c,el,els,f,m,n; if(!o)o=document; if(o.getElementById)
el=o.getElementById(id);
else if(o.layers) c=o.layers; else if(o.all) el=o.all[id]; if(el) return el;
if(o.id==id || o.name==id) return o; if(o.childNodes) c=o.childNodes; if(c)
for(n=0; n<c.length; n++) { el=FP_getObjectByID(id,c[n]); if(el) return el; }
f=o.forms; if(f) for(n=0; n<f.length; n++) { els=f[n].elements;
for(m=0; m<els.length; m++){ el=FP_getObjectByID(id,els[n]); if(el) return
el; } }
return null;
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I didnt want all that code, I have viewed source on lots of sites posted
here, and they dont have that. So... I have tried a couple of pages where I
deleted the pics from the page, and dragged them from the toggle pane into
the spot in my page where I want them. I then went into code and deleted the
code stuff and have this-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I think this is probably wrong, because when I preview and click on my
button at the bottom of the page, a Error red x pop-up comes up, and says "A
runtime error has occured. Do you wish to drbug? Line 70 Error: Object
expected." The only strange thing is, line 70 is the copyright 2006, and its
ok on all the pages I havent taken the huge paragraph of code out for using
insert pictures.

My image line in code looks like this-

<img border="0" src="images/web_images/cowboy_sculpture/artist
name-cowboy-side.jpg" width="255" height="516"></p>

Is this correct? I have no idea how to put my images in other than dragging
them, if I dont use the insert picture.

4- It has never ever brought up a saved embedded images. I just click save.
Is it supposed to say save embedded?

5- Do I need to delete, start over, and import my images from FP, using the
import button, or are they there correctly?

I hope this all makes sense, sorry it's so long. I am so new at this,
thanks for any help you can be.
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Hi Susie,

It shoulkd all become a lot clearer when you understand that a web site is
not like your file system. Your file system is a collection of files and
folders which are not at all necessarily related to one another in any way.
Creating a web site is not like making a bunch of Word documents and putting
them all in the same folder or several folders. A web site is an integrated,
interconnected set of "resources" (HTML documents, images, etc.) that are
all "linked" together, in a sort of... well... web.

So, the first thing you've got to do is to stop thinking and saying that you
are importing anything "into FP." FrontPage is a toolkit. It isn't a web
site. In fact, it can work with many web sites, and individual HTML
documents. So, get your mind set on thinking of the web you're working on,
not FrontPage.

When you create a web site on your local machine, you may have it stored in
a folder, and in several folders underneath that folder. But that is just a
model of how it will be stored on the web server after you publish it. The
FrontPage server extensions keep track of the inter-relationships of
everything. And when it is published, while the structure of the folders
will be relatively the same, they will no longer be in C:\Documents and
Settings\Susie\anything, but in a virtual directory on a web server.

That "green globe image" is what tells you that FrontPage knows it is
working on a web site, rather then a bunch of disconnected documents. But
you are really looking at it the wrong way. Your folder system is not a web
management system. FrontPage has a web management system built into it, and
it coordinates everything you do *in FrontPage.* Anything you do *outside*
of FrontPage is unknown to it. So, you should only work on files and folders
in a web site *through FrontPage.*

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Professional Numbskull

Hard work is a medication for which
there is no placebo.



Susie said:
First, I am sorry for the long post, but I need to know if I am doing all
this right before I go on with more. I am still working on my site in
FP2003, I have not published yet. Somehow I missed the part where you
need
to import the images into FP.

1- I created the new site in FP, saved it to C:\Documents and
Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name, this is what shows at the top of
my
folder list in FP, (on the left in the toggle pane). On the folder (thats
located in my documents) it has that green globe image. Is this correct,
shuld it be here, and say this at the top of the toggle pane?

2-In the folder C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name,
there are foldesr named,
Private
_vti_pvt
_vti_cnf
images (in images theres a folder for buttons, and a thumbs.db)

Then there are all the pages I have made in FP with the big blue e next to
them.
Is this correct?

3- after editing my images, I saved them the folder called "images" the
one
in C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name. then I used
the insert picture, and ended up with this at the top of all my pages-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sulpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_swapImg() {//v1.0
var doc=document,args=arguments,elm,n; doc.$imgSwaps=new Array(); for(n=2;
n<args.length;
n+=2) { elm=FP_getObjectByID(args[n]); if(elm) {
doc.$imgSwaps[doc.$imgSwaps.length]=elm;
elm.$src=elm.src; elm.src=args[n+1]; } }
}

function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}

function FP_getObjectByID(id,o) {//v1.0
var c,el,els,f,m,n; if(!o)o=document; if(o.getElementById)
el=o.getElementById(id);
else if(o.layers) c=o.layers; else if(o.all) el=o.all[id]; if(el) return
el;
if(o.id==id || o.name==id) return o; if(o.childNodes) c=o.childNodes;
if(c)
for(n=0; n<c.length; n++) { el=FP_getObjectByID(id,c[n]); if(el) return
el; }
f=o.forms; if(f) for(n=0; n<f.length; n++) { els=f[n].elements;
for(m=0; m<els.length; m++){ el=FP_getObjectByID(id,els[n]); if(el) return
el; } }
return null;
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I didnt want all that code, I have viewed source on lots of sites posted
here, and they dont have that. So... I have tried a couple of pages where
I
deleted the pics from the page, and dragged them from the toggle pane into
the spot in my page where I want them. I then went into code and deleted
the
code stuff and have this-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I think this is probably wrong, because when I preview and click on my
button at the bottom of the page, a Error red x pop-up comes up, and says
"A
runtime error has occured. Do you wish to drbug? Line 70 Error: Object
expected." The only strange thing is, line 70 is the copyright 2006, and
its
ok on all the pages I havent taken the huge paragraph of code out for
using
insert pictures.

My image line in code looks like this-

<img border="0" src="images/web_images/cowboy_sculpture/artist
name-cowboy-side.jpg" width="255" height="516"></p>

Is this correct? I have no idea how to put my images in other than
dragging
them, if I dont use the insert picture.

4- It has never ever brought up a saved embedded images. I just click
save.
Is it supposed to say save embedded?

5- Do I need to delete, start over, and import my images from FP, using
the
import button, or are they there correctly?

I hope this all makes sense, sorry it's so long. I am so new at this,
thanks for any help you can be.
Click to expand...
 
G

Guest

Hi kevin,
Thanks for your reply. Ok, so I am assuming that everything as far as my
folder is ok. I kept on reading that I was supposed to IMPORT my images,
they said it in big letters like that, so I was worried. Can I continue to
save my images after I have cropped etc, into my images folder the way I have
been? (Sorry, but you need to think of me as really really challenged, (but
getting better, and learning alot!)
Then, what about my dragging and dropping my images, and all the code stuff?
Does the code look ok, the second code I put in, this-
<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>
Click to expand...
Click to expand...


Kevin Spencer said:
Hi Susie,

It shoulkd all become a lot clearer when you understand that a web site is
not like your file system. Your file system is a collection of files and
folders which are not at all necessarily related to one another in any way.
Creating a web site is not like making a bunch of Word documents and putting
them all in the same folder or several folders. A web site is an integrated,
interconnected set of "resources" (HTML documents, images, etc.) that are
all "linked" together, in a sort of... well... web.

So, the first thing you've got to do is to stop thinking and saying that you
are importing anything "into FP." FrontPage is a toolkit. It isn't a web
site. In fact, it can work with many web sites, and individual HTML
documents. So, get your mind set on thinking of the web you're working on,
not FrontPage.

When you create a web site on your local machine, you may have it stored in
a folder, and in several folders underneath that folder. But that is just a
model of how it will be stored on the web server after you publish it. The
FrontPage server extensions keep track of the inter-relationships of
everything. And when it is published, while the structure of the folders
will be relatively the same, they will no longer be in C:\Documents and
Settings\Susie\anything, but in a virtual directory on a web server.

That "green globe image" is what tells you that FrontPage knows it is
working on a web site, rather then a bunch of disconnected documents. But
you are really looking at it the wrong way. Your folder system is not a web
management system. FrontPage has a web management system built into it, and
it coordinates everything you do *in FrontPage.* Anything you do *outside*
of FrontPage is unknown to it. So, you should only work on files and folders
in a web site *through FrontPage.*

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Professional Numbskull

Hard work is a medication for which
there is no placebo.



Susie said:
First, I am sorry for the long post, but I need to know if I am doing all
this right before I go on with more. I am still working on my site in
FP2003, I have not published yet. Somehow I missed the part where you
need
to import the images into FP.

1- I created the new site in FP, saved it to C:\Documents and
Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name, this is what shows at the top of
my
folder list in FP, (on the left in the toggle pane). On the folder (thats
located in my documents) it has that green globe image. Is this correct,
shuld it be here, and say this at the top of the toggle pane?

2-In the folder C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name,
there are foldesr named,
Private
_vti_pvt
_vti_cnf
images (in images theres a folder for buttons, and a thumbs.db)

Then there are all the pages I have made in FP with the big blue e next to
them.
Is this correct?

3- after editing my images, I saved them the folder called "images" the
one
in C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name. then I used
the insert picture, and ended up with this at the top of all my pages-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sulpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_swapImg() {//v1.0
var doc=document,args=arguments,elm,n; doc.$imgSwaps=new Array(); for(n=2;
n<args.length;
n+=2) { elm=FP_getObjectByID(args[n]); if(elm) {
doc.$imgSwaps[doc.$imgSwaps.length]=elm;
elm.$src=elm.src; elm.src=args[n+1]; } }
}

function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}

function FP_getObjectByID(id,o) {//v1.0
var c,el,els,f,m,n; if(!o)o=document; if(o.getElementById)
el=o.getElementById(id);
else if(o.layers) c=o.layers; else if(o.all) el=o.all[id]; if(el) return
el;
if(o.id==id || o.name==id) return o; if(o.childNodes) c=o.childNodes;
if(c)
for(n=0; n<c.length; n++) { el=FP_getObjectByID(id,c[n]); if(el) return
el; }
f=o.forms; if(f) for(n=0; n<f.length; n++) { els=f[n].elements;
for(m=0; m<els.length; m++){ el=FP_getObjectByID(id,els[n]); if(el) return
el; } }
return null;
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I didnt want all that code, I have viewed source on lots of sites posted
here, and they dont have that. So... I have tried a couple of pages where
I
deleted the pics from the page, and dragged them from the toggle pane into
the spot in my page where I want them. I then went into code and deleted
the
code stuff and have this-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I think this is probably wrong, because when I preview and click on my
button at the bottom of the page, a Error red x pop-up comes up, and says
"A
runtime error has occured. Do you wish to drbug? Line 70 Error: Object
expected." The only strange thing is, line 70 is the copyright 2006, and
its
ok on all the pages I havent taken the huge paragraph of code out for
using
insert pictures.

My image line in code looks like this-

<img border="0" src="images/web_images/cowboy_sculpture/artist
name-cowboy-side.jpg" width="255" height="516"></p>

Is this correct? I have no idea how to put my images in other than
dragging
them, if I dont use the insert picture.

4- It has never ever brought up a saved embedded images. I just click
save.
Is it supposed to say save embedded?

5- Do I need to delete, start over, and import my images from FP, using
the
import button, or are they there correctly?

I hope this all makes sense, sorry it's so long. I am so new at this,
thanks for any help you can be.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
G

Guest

Susie - It sounds like you are doing your images correctly. You should edit
them in your favorite graphics program (I use Photoshop) and then save the
images to a folder "within" your website. Then use FrontPage to insert the
pictures into one of your webpages with your website open. That way FP will
know how to find them in the future.
--
Richard M. Perry


Susie said:
Hi kevin,
Thanks for your reply. Ok, so I am assuming that everything as far as my
folder is ok. I kept on reading that I was supposed to IMPORT my images,
they said it in big letters like that, so I was worried. Can I continue to
save my images after I have cropped etc, into my images folder the way I have
been? (Sorry, but you need to think of me as really really challenged, (but
getting better, and learning alot!)
Then, what about my dragging and dropping my images, and all the code stuff?
Does the code look ok, the second code I put in, this-
<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>
Click to expand...
Click to expand...


Kevin Spencer said:
Hi Susie,

It shoulkd all become a lot clearer when you understand that a web site is
not like your file system. Your file system is a collection of files and
folders which are not at all necessarily related to one another in any way.
Creating a web site is not like making a bunch of Word documents and putting
them all in the same folder or several folders. A web site is an integrated,
interconnected set of "resources" (HTML documents, images, etc.) that are
all "linked" together, in a sort of... well... web.

So, the first thing you've got to do is to stop thinking and saying that you
are importing anything "into FP." FrontPage is a toolkit. It isn't a web
site. In fact, it can work with many web sites, and individual HTML
documents. So, get your mind set on thinking of the web you're working on,
not FrontPage.

When you create a web site on your local machine, you may have it stored in
a folder, and in several folders underneath that folder. But that is just a
model of how it will be stored on the web server after you publish it. The
FrontPage server extensions keep track of the inter-relationships of
everything. And when it is published, while the structure of the folders
will be relatively the same, they will no longer be in C:\Documents and
Settings\Susie\anything, but in a virtual directory on a web server.

That "green globe image" is what tells you that FrontPage knows it is
working on a web site, rather then a bunch of disconnected documents. But
you are really looking at it the wrong way. Your folder system is not a web
management system. FrontPage has a web management system built into it, and
it coordinates everything you do *in FrontPage.* Anything you do *outside*
of FrontPage is unknown to it. So, you should only work on files and folders
in a web site *through FrontPage.*

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Professional Numbskull

Hard work is a medication for which
there is no placebo.



Susie said:
First, I am sorry for the long post, but I need to know if I am doing all
this right before I go on with more. I am still working on my site in
FP2003, I have not published yet. Somehow I missed the part where you
need
to import the images into FP.

1- I created the new site in FP, saved it to C:\Documents and
Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name, this is what shows at the top of
my
folder list in FP, (on the left in the toggle pane). On the folder (thats
located in my documents) it has that green globe image. Is this correct,
shuld it be here, and say this at the top of the toggle pane?

2-In the folder C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name,
there are foldesr named,
Private
_vti_pvt
_vti_cnf
images (in images theres a folder for buttons, and a thumbs.db)

Then there are all the pages I have made in FP with the big blue e next to
them.
Is this correct?

3- after editing my images, I saved them the folder called "images" the
one
in C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name. then I used
the insert picture, and ended up with this at the top of all my pages-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sulpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_swapImg() {//v1.0
var doc=document,args=arguments,elm,n; doc.$imgSwaps=new Array(); for(n=2;
n<args.length;
n+=2) { elm=FP_getObjectByID(args[n]); if(elm) {
doc.$imgSwaps[doc.$imgSwaps.length]=elm;
elm.$src=elm.src; elm.src=args[n+1]; } }
}

function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}

function FP_getObjectByID(id,o) {//v1.0
var c,el,els,f,m,n; if(!o)o=document; if(o.getElementById)
el=o.getElementById(id);
else if(o.layers) c=o.layers; else if(o.all) el=o.all[id]; if(el) return
el;
if(o.id==id || o.name==id) return o; if(o.childNodes) c=o.childNodes;
if(c)
for(n=0; n<c.length; n++) { el=FP_getObjectByID(id,c[n]); if(el) return
el; }
f=o.forms; if(f) for(n=0; n<f.length; n++) { els=f[n].elements;
for(m=0; m<els.length; m++){ el=FP_getObjectByID(id,els[n]); if(el) return
el; } }
return null;
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I didnt want all that code, I have viewed source on lots of sites posted
here, and they dont have that. So... I have tried a couple of pages where
I
deleted the pics from the page, and dragged them from the toggle pane into
the spot in my page where I want them. I then went into code and deleted
the
code stuff and have this-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I think this is probably wrong, because when I preview and click on my
button at the bottom of the page, a Error red x pop-up comes up, and says
"A
runtime error has occured. Do you wish to drbug? Line 70 Error: Object
expected." The only strange thing is, line 70 is the copyright 2006, and
its
ok on all the pages I havent taken the huge paragraph of code out for
using
insert pictures.

My image line in code looks like this-

<img border="0" src="images/web_images/cowboy_sculpture/artist
name-cowboy-side.jpg" width="255" height="516"></p>

Is this correct? I have no idea how to put my images in other than
dragging
them, if I dont use the insert picture.

4- It has never ever brought up a saved embedded images. I just click
save.
Is it supposed to say save embedded?

5- Do I need to delete, start over, and import my images from FP, using
the
import button, or are they there correctly?

I hope this all makes sense, sorry it's so long. I am so new at this,
thanks for any help you can be.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
G

Guest

Hi Richard, are you saying to insert my pictures using the insert picture at
the top of frontpage where it says Insert? Then I get all that code at the
top of my page, like I showed in the my first post? Isnt there a way to put
the pictures in without having all that code? So many sites I have looked at
their source code, and they don't have that, maybe Insert is for people like
me, who dont know the good way, cant write code?
Thanks for your patience with me.

Richard said:
Susie - It sounds like you are doing your images correctly. You should edit
them in your favorite graphics program (I use Photoshop) and then save the
images to a folder "within" your website. Then use FrontPage to insert the
pictures into one of your webpages with your website open. That way FP will
know how to find them in the future.
--
Richard M. Perry


Susie said:
Hi kevin,
Thanks for your reply. Ok, so I am assuming that everything as far as my
folder is ok. I kept on reading that I was supposed to IMPORT my images,
they said it in big letters like that, so I was worried. Can I continue to
save my images after I have cropped etc, into my images folder the way I have
been? (Sorry, but you need to think of me as really really challenged, (but
getting better, and learning alot!)
Then, what about my dragging and dropping my images, and all the code stuff?
Does the code look ok, the second code I put in, this-
<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>
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Kevin Spencer said:
Hi Susie,

It shoulkd all become a lot clearer when you understand that a web site is
not like your file system. Your file system is a collection of files and
folders which are not at all necessarily related to one another in any way.
Creating a web site is not like making a bunch of Word documents and putting
them all in the same folder or several folders. A web site is an integrated,
interconnected set of "resources" (HTML documents, images, etc.) that are
all "linked" together, in a sort of... well... web.

So, the first thing you've got to do is to stop thinking and saying that you
are importing anything "into FP." FrontPage is a toolkit. It isn't a web
site. In fact, it can work with many web sites, and individual HTML
documents. So, get your mind set on thinking of the web you're working on,
not FrontPage.

When you create a web site on your local machine, you may have it stored in
a folder, and in several folders underneath that folder. But that is just a
model of how it will be stored on the web server after you publish it. The
FrontPage server extensions keep track of the inter-relationships of
everything. And when it is published, while the structure of the folders
will be relatively the same, they will no longer be in C:\Documents and
Settings\Susie\anything, but in a virtual directory on a web server.

That "green globe image" is what tells you that FrontPage knows it is
working on a web site, rather then a bunch of disconnected documents. But
you are really looking at it the wrong way. Your folder system is not a web
management system. FrontPage has a web management system built into it, and
it coordinates everything you do *in FrontPage.* Anything you do *outside*
of FrontPage is unknown to it. So, you should only work on files and folders
in a web site *through FrontPage.*

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Professional Numbskull

Hard work is a medication for which
there is no placebo.



First, I am sorry for the long post, but I need to know if I am doing all
this right before I go on with more. I am still working on my site in
FP2003, I have not published yet. Somehow I missed the part where you
need
to import the images into FP.

1- I created the new site in FP, saved it to C:\Documents and
Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name, this is what shows at the top of
my
folder list in FP, (on the left in the toggle pane). On the folder (thats
located in my documents) it has that green globe image. Is this correct,
shuld it be here, and say this at the top of the toggle pane?

2-In the folder C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name,
there are foldesr named,
Private
_vti_pvt
_vti_cnf
images (in images theres a folder for buttons, and a thumbs.db)

Then there are all the pages I have made in FP with the big blue e next to
them.
Is this correct?

3- after editing my images, I saved them the folder called "images" the
one
in C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name. then I used
the insert picture, and ended up with this at the top of all my pages-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sulpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_swapImg() {//v1.0
var doc=document,args=arguments,elm,n; doc.$imgSwaps=new Array(); for(n=2;
n<args.length;
n+=2) { elm=FP_getObjectByID(args[n]); if(elm) {
doc.$imgSwaps[doc.$imgSwaps.length]=elm;
elm.$src=elm.src; elm.src=args[n+1]; } }
}

function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}

function FP_getObjectByID(id,o) {//v1.0
var c,el,els,f,m,n; if(!o)o=document; if(o.getElementById)
el=o.getElementById(id);
else if(o.layers) c=o.layers; else if(o.all) el=o.all[id]; if(el) return
el;
if(o.id==id || o.name==id) return o; if(o.childNodes) c=o.childNodes;
if(c)
for(n=0; n<c.length; n++) { el=FP_getObjectByID(id,c[n]); if(el) return
el; }
f=o.forms; if(f) for(n=0; n<f.length; n++) { els=f[n].elements;
for(m=0; m<els.length; m++){ el=FP_getObjectByID(id,els[n]); if(el) return
el; } }
return null;
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I didnt want all that code, I have viewed source on lots of sites posted
here, and they dont have that. So... I have tried a couple of pages where
I
deleted the pics from the page, and dragged them from the toggle pane into
the spot in my page where I want them. I then went into code and deleted
the
code stuff and have this-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I think this is probably wrong, because when I preview and click on my
button at the bottom of the page, a Error red x pop-up comes up, and says
"A
runtime error has occured. Do you wish to drbug? Line 70 Error: Object
expected." The only strange thing is, line 70 is the copyright 2006, and
its
ok on all the pages I havent taken the huge paragraph of code out for
using
insert pictures.

My image line in code looks like this-

<img border="0" src="images/web_images/cowboy_sculpture/artist
name-cowboy-side.jpg" width="255" height="516"></p>

Is this correct? I have no idea how to put my images in other than
dragging
them, if I dont use the insert picture.

4- It has never ever brought up a saved embedded images. I just click
save.
Is it supposed to say save embedded?

5- Do I need to delete, start over, and import my images from FP, using
the
import button, or are they there correctly?

I hope this all makes sense, sorry it's so long. I am so new at this,
thanks for any help you can be.
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G

Guest

Susie - I'm not an expert on all that code, but you do use the "Insert"
"Picture" "From File" command in FrontPage to put your pictures from within
your web onto a web page with your website open. I think you're getting too
concerned about the code aspect.
--
Richard M. Perry


Susie said:
Hi Richard, are you saying to insert my pictures using the insert picture at
the top of frontpage where it says Insert? Then I get all that code at the
top of my page, like I showed in the my first post? Isnt there a way to put
the pictures in without having all that code? So many sites I have looked at
their source code, and they don't have that, maybe Insert is for people like
me, who dont know the good way, cant write code?
Thanks for your patience with me.

Richard said:
Susie - It sounds like you are doing your images correctly. You should edit
them in your favorite graphics program (I use Photoshop) and then save the
images to a folder "within" your website. Then use FrontPage to insert the
pictures into one of your webpages with your website open. That way FP will
know how to find them in the future.
--
Richard M. Perry


Susie said:
Hi kevin,
Thanks for your reply. Ok, so I am assuming that everything as far as my
folder is ok. I kept on reading that I was supposed to IMPORT my images,
they said it in big letters like that, so I was worried. Can I continue to
save my images after I have cropped etc, into my images folder the way I have
been? (Sorry, but you need to think of me as really really challenged, (but
getting better, and learning alot!)
Then, what about my dragging and dropping my images, and all the code stuff?
Does the code look ok, the second code I put in, this-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

:

Hi Susie,

It shoulkd all become a lot clearer when you understand that a web site is
not like your file system. Your file system is a collection of files and
folders which are not at all necessarily related to one another in any way.
Creating a web site is not like making a bunch of Word documents and putting
them all in the same folder or several folders. A web site is an integrated,
interconnected set of "resources" (HTML documents, images, etc.) that are
all "linked" together, in a sort of... well... web.

So, the first thing you've got to do is to stop thinking and saying that you
are importing anything "into FP." FrontPage is a toolkit. It isn't a web
site. In fact, it can work with many web sites, and individual HTML
documents. So, get your mind set on thinking of the web you're working on,
not FrontPage.

When you create a web site on your local machine, you may have it stored in
a folder, and in several folders underneath that folder. But that is just a
model of how it will be stored on the web server after you publish it. The
FrontPage server extensions keep track of the inter-relationships of
everything. And when it is published, while the structure of the folders
will be relatively the same, they will no longer be in C:\Documents and
Settings\Susie\anything, but in a virtual directory on a web server.

That "green globe image" is what tells you that FrontPage knows it is
working on a web site, rather then a bunch of disconnected documents. But
you are really looking at it the wrong way. Your folder system is not a web
management system. FrontPage has a web management system built into it, and
it coordinates everything you do *in FrontPage.* Anything you do *outside*
of FrontPage is unknown to it. So, you should only work on files and folders
in a web site *through FrontPage.*

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Professional Numbskull

Hard work is a medication for which
there is no placebo.



First, I am sorry for the long post, but I need to know if I am doing all
this right before I go on with more. I am still working on my site in
FP2003, I have not published yet. Somehow I missed the part where you
need
to import the images into FP.

1- I created the new site in FP, saved it to C:\Documents and
Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name, this is what shows at the top of
my
folder list in FP, (on the left in the toggle pane). On the folder (thats
located in my documents) it has that green globe image. Is this correct,
shuld it be here, and say this at the top of the toggle pane?

2-In the folder C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name,
there are foldesr named,
Private
_vti_pvt
_vti_cnf
images (in images theres a folder for buttons, and a thumbs.db)

Then there are all the pages I have made in FP with the big blue e next to
them.
Is this correct?

3- after editing my images, I saved them the folder called "images" the
one
in C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name. then I used
the insert picture, and ended up with this at the top of all my pages-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sulpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_swapImg() {//v1.0
var doc=document,args=arguments,elm,n; doc.$imgSwaps=new Array(); for(n=2;
n<args.length;
n+=2) { elm=FP_getObjectByID(args[n]); if(elm) {
doc.$imgSwaps[doc.$imgSwaps.length]=elm;
elm.$src=elm.src; elm.src=args[n+1]; } }
}

function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}

function FP_getObjectByID(id,o) {//v1.0
var c,el,els,f,m,n; if(!o)o=document; if(o.getElementById)
el=o.getElementById(id);
else if(o.layers) c=o.layers; else if(o.all) el=o.all[id]; if(el) return
el;
if(o.id==id || o.name==id) return o; if(o.childNodes) c=o.childNodes;
if(c)
for(n=0; n<c.length; n++) { el=FP_getObjectByID(id,c[n]); if(el) return
el; }
f=o.forms; if(f) for(n=0; n<f.length; n++) { els=f[n].elements;
for(m=0; m<els.length; m++){ el=FP_getObjectByID(id,els[n]); if(el) return
el; } }
return null;
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I didnt want all that code, I have viewed source on lots of sites posted
here, and they dont have that. So... I have tried a couple of pages where
I
deleted the pics from the page, and dragged them from the toggle pane into
the spot in my page where I want them. I then went into code and deleted
the
code stuff and have this-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I think this is probably wrong, because when I preview and click on my
button at the bottom of the page, a Error red x pop-up comes up, and says
"A
runtime error has occured. Do you wish to drbug? Line 70 Error: Object
expected." The only strange thing is, line 70 is the copyright 2006, and
its
ok on all the pages I havent taken the huge paragraph of code out for
using
insert pictures.

My image line in code looks like this-

<img border="0" src="images/web_images/cowboy_sculpture/artist
name-cowboy-side.jpg" width="255" height="516"></p>

Is this correct? I have no idea how to put my images in other than
dragging
them, if I dont use the insert picture.

4- It has never ever brought up a saved embedded images. I just click
save.
Is it supposed to say save embedded?

5- Do I need to delete, start over, and import my images from FP, using
the
import button, or are they there correctly?

I hope this all makes sense, sorry it's so long. I am so new at this,
thanks for any help you can be.
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R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

YES, Import your images into your FP web first (usually into the Images
folder) then Insert them into your web design from the IMages folder. This
should be done AFTER you have sized them properly AND optimized them for the
web.

You can also Drag/Drop them into the the web, but it's easier to Import a
bunch of them first.


| Hi kevin,
| Thanks for your reply. Ok, so I am assuming that everything as far as my
| folder is ok. I kept on reading that I was supposed to IMPORT my images,
| they said it in big letters like that, so I was worried. Can I continue
to
| save my images after I have cropped etc, into my images folder the way I
have
| been? (Sorry, but you need to think of me as really really challenged,
(but
| getting better, and learning alot!)
| Then, what about my dragging and dropping my images, and all the code
stuff?
| Does the code look ok, the second code I put in, this-
|
| > > <html>
| > >
| > > <head>
| > > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
| > > <title>Bear Sculpture</title>
| > > <script language="JavaScript">
| > > <!--
| > > function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
| > > var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
| > > for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
| > > d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
| > > }
| > > // -->
| > > </script>
| > > </head>
|
| "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
|
| > Hi Susie,
| >
| > It shoulkd all become a lot clearer when you understand that a web site
is
| > not like your file system. Your file system is a collection of files and
| > folders which are not at all necessarily related to one another in any
way.
| > Creating a web site is not like making a bunch of Word documents and
putting
| > them all in the same folder or several folders. A web site is an
integrated,
| > interconnected set of "resources" (HTML documents, images, etc.) that
are
| > all "linked" together, in a sort of... well... web.
| >
| > So, the first thing you've got to do is to stop thinking and saying that
you
| > are importing anything "into FP." FrontPage is a toolkit. It isn't a web
| > site. In fact, it can work with many web sites, and individual HTML
| > documents. So, get your mind set on thinking of the web you're working
on,
| > not FrontPage.
| >
| > When you create a web site on your local machine, you may have it stored
in
| > a folder, and in several folders underneath that folder. But that is
just a
| > model of how it will be stored on the web server after you publish it.
The
| > FrontPage server extensions keep track of the inter-relationships of
| > everything. And when it is published, while the structure of the folders
| > will be relatively the same, they will no longer be in C:\Documents and
| > Settings\Susie\anything, but in a virtual directory on a web server.
| >
| > That "green globe image" is what tells you that FrontPage knows it is
| > working on a web site, rather then a bunch of disconnected documents.
But
| > you are really looking at it the wrong way. Your folder system is not a
web
| > management system. FrontPage has a web management system built into it,
and
| > it coordinates everything you do *in FrontPage.* Anything you do
*outside*
| > of FrontPage is unknown to it. So, you should only work on files and
folders
| > in a web site *through FrontPage.*
| >
| > --
| > HTH,
| >
| > Kevin Spencer
| > Microsoft MVP
| > Professional Numbskull
| >
| > Hard work is a medication for which
| > there is no placebo.
| >
| >
| >
| > | > > First, I am sorry for the long post, but I need to know if I am doing
all
| > > this right before I go on with more. I am still working on my site in
| > > FP2003, I have not published yet. Somehow I missed the part where you
| > > need
| > > to import the images into FP.
| > >
| > > 1- I created the new site in FP, saved it to C:\Documents and
| > > Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name, this is what shows at the
top of
| > > my
| > > folder list in FP, (on the left in the toggle pane). On the folder
(thats
| > > located in my documents) it has that green globe image. Is this
correct,
| > > shuld it be here, and say this at the top of the toggle pane?
| > >
| > > 2-In the folder C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website
name,
| > > there are foldesr named,
| > > Private
| > > _vti_pvt
| > > _vti_cnf
| > > images (in images theres a folder for buttons, and a thumbs.db)
| > >
| > > Then there are all the pages I have made in FP with the big blue e
next to
| > > them.
| > > Is this correct?
| > >
| > > 3- after editing my images, I saved them the folder called "images"
the
| > > one
| > > in C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name. then I
used
| > > the insert picture, and ended up with this at the top of all my pages-
| > >
| > > <html>
| > >
| > > <head>
| > > <meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
| > > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
| > > <title>Bear Sulpture</title>
| > > <script language="JavaScript">
| > > <!--
| > > function FP_swapImg() {//v1.0
| > > var doc=document,args=arguments,elm,n; doc.$imgSwaps=new Array();
for(n=2;
| > > n<args.length;
| > > n+=2) { elm=FP_getObjectByID(args[n]); if(elm) {
| > > doc.$imgSwaps[doc.$imgSwaps.length]=elm;
| > > elm.$src=elm.src; elm.src=args[n+1]; } }
| > > }
| > >
| > > function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
| > > var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
| > > for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
| > > d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
| > > }
| > >
| > > function FP_getObjectByID(id,o) {//v1.0
| > > var c,el,els,f,m,n; if(!o)o=document; if(o.getElementById)
| > > el=o.getElementById(id);
| > > else if(o.layers) c=o.layers; else if(o.all) el=o.all[id]; if(el)
return
| > > el;
| > > if(o.id==id || o.name==id) return o; if(o.childNodes) c=o.childNodes;
| > > if(c)
| > > for(n=0; n<c.length; n++) { el=FP_getObjectByID(id,c[n]); if(el)
return
| > > el; }
| > > f=o.forms; if(f) for(n=0; n<f.length; n++) { els=f[n].elements;
| > > for(m=0; m<els.length; m++){ el=FP_getObjectByID(id,els[n]); if(el)
return
| > > el; } }
| > > return null;
| > > }
| > > // -->
| > > </script>
| > > </head>
| > >
| > > I didnt want all that code, I have viewed source on lots of sites
posted
| > > here, and they dont have that. So... I have tried a couple of pages
where
| > > I
| > > deleted the pics from the page, and dragged them from the toggle pane
into
| > > the spot in my page where I want them. I then went into code and
deleted
| > > the
| > > code stuff and have this-
| > >
| > > <html>
| > >
| > > <head>
| > > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
| > > <title>Bear Sculpture</title>
| > > <script language="JavaScript">
| > > <!--
| > > function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
| > > var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
| > > for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
| > > d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
| > > }
| > > // -->
| > > </script>
| > > </head>
| > >
| > > I think this is probably wrong, because when I preview and click on my
| > > button at the bottom of the page, a Error red x pop-up comes up, and
says
| > > "A
| > > runtime error has occured. Do you wish to drbug? Line 70 Error:
Object
| > > expected." The only strange thing is, line 70 is the copyright 2006,
and
| > > its
| > > ok on all the pages I havent taken the huge paragraph of code out for
| > > using
| > > insert pictures.
| > >
| > > My image line in code looks like this-
| > >
| > > <img border="0" src="images/web_images/cowboy_sculpture/artist
| > > name-cowboy-side.jpg" width="255" height="516"></p>
| > >
| > > Is this correct? I have no idea how to put my images in other than
| > > dragging
| > > them, if I dont use the insert picture.
| > >
| > > 4- It has never ever brought up a saved embedded images. I just click
| > > save.
| > > Is it supposed to say save embedded?
| > >
| > > 5- Do I need to delete, start over, and import my images from FP,
using
| > > the
| > > import button, or are they there correctly?
| > >
| > > I hope this all makes sense, sorry it's so long. I am so new at this,
| > > thanks for any help you can be.
| > >
| >
| >
| >
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

oh yeah DELETE any of those thumbs.db files before you Publish your web,
they will cause problems later.


| Hi Richard, are you saying to insert my pictures using the insert picture
at
| the top of frontpage where it says Insert? Then I get all that code at
the
| top of my page, like I showed in the my first post? Isnt there a way to
put
| the pictures in without having all that code? So many sites I have looked
at
| their source code, and they don't have that, maybe Insert is for people
like
| me, who dont know the good way, cant write code?
| Thanks for your patience with me.
|
| "Richard" wrote:
|
| > Susie - It sounds like you are doing your images correctly. You should
edit
| > them in your favorite graphics program (I use Photoshop) and then save
the
| > images to a folder "within" your website. Then use FrontPage to insert
the
| > pictures into one of your webpages with your website open. That way FP
will
| > know how to find them in the future.
| > --
| > Richard M. Perry
| >
| >
| > "Susie" wrote:
| >
| > > Hi kevin,
| > > Thanks for your reply. Ok, so I am assuming that everything as far as
my
| > > folder is ok. I kept on reading that I was supposed to IMPORT my
images,
| > > they said it in big letters like that, so I was worried. Can I
continue to
| > > save my images after I have cropped etc, into my images folder the way
I have
| > > been? (Sorry, but you need to think of me as really really
challenged, (but
| > > getting better, and learning alot!)
| > > Then, what about my dragging and dropping my images, and all the code
stuff?
| > > Does the code look ok, the second code I put in, this-
| > >
| > > > > <html>
| > > > >
| > > > > <head>
| > > > > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
| > > > > <title>Bear Sculpture</title>
| > > > > <script language="JavaScript">
| > > > > <!--
| > > > > function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
| > > > > var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
| > > > > for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
| > > > > d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
| > > > > }
| > > > > // -->
| > > > > </script>
| > > > > </head>
| > >
| > > "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
| > >
| > > > Hi Susie,
| > > >
| > > > It shoulkd all become a lot clearer when you understand that a web
site is
| > > > not like your file system. Your file system is a collection of files
and
| > > > folders which are not at all necessarily related to one another in
any way.
| > > > Creating a web site is not like making a bunch of Word documents and
putting
| > > > them all in the same folder or several folders. A web site is an
integrated,
| > > > interconnected set of "resources" (HTML documents, images, etc.)
that are
| > > > all "linked" together, in a sort of... well... web.
| > > >
| > > > So, the first thing you've got to do is to stop thinking and saying
that you
| > > > are importing anything "into FP." FrontPage is a toolkit. It isn't a
web
| > > > site. In fact, it can work with many web sites, and individual HTML
| > > > documents. So, get your mind set on thinking of the web you're
working on,
| > > > not FrontPage.
| > > >
| > > > When you create a web site on your local machine, you may have it
stored in
| > > > a folder, and in several folders underneath that folder. But that is
just a
| > > > model of how it will be stored on the web server after you publish
it. The
| > > > FrontPage server extensions keep track of the inter-relationships of
| > > > everything. And when it is published, while the structure of the
folders
| > > > will be relatively the same, they will no longer be in C:\Documents
and
| > > > Settings\Susie\anything, but in a virtual directory on a web server.
| > > >
| > > > That "green globe image" is what tells you that FrontPage knows it
is
| > > > working on a web site, rather then a bunch of disconnected
documents. But
| > > > you are really looking at it the wrong way. Your folder system is
not a web
| > > > management system. FrontPage has a web management system built into
it, and
| > > > it coordinates everything you do *in FrontPage.* Anything you do
*outside*
| > > > of FrontPage is unknown to it. So, you should only work on files and
folders
| > > > in a web site *through FrontPage.*
| > > >
| > > > --
| > > > HTH,
| > > >
| > > > Kevin Spencer
| > > > Microsoft MVP
| > > > Professional Numbskull
| > > >
| > > > Hard work is a medication for which
| > > > there is no placebo.
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > | > > > > First, I am sorry for the long post, but I need to know if I am
doing all
| > > > > this right before I go on with more. I am still working on my
site in
| > > > > FP2003, I have not published yet. Somehow I missed the part where
you
| > > > > need
| > > > > to import the images into FP.
| > > > >
| > > > > 1- I created the new site in FP, saved it to C:\Documents and
| > > > > Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name, this is what shows at
the top of
| > > > > my
| > > > > folder list in FP, (on the left in the toggle pane). On the
folder (thats
| > > > > located in my documents) it has that green globe image. Is this
correct,
| > > > > shuld it be here, and say this at the top of the toggle pane?
| > > > >
| > > > > 2-In the folder C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My
Documents\website name,
| > > > > there are foldesr named,
| > > > > Private
| > > > > _vti_pvt
| > > > > _vti_cnf
| > > > > images (in images theres a folder for buttons, and a thumbs.db)
| > > > >
| > > > > Then there are all the pages I have made in FP with the big blue e
next to
| > > > > them.
| > > > > Is this correct?
| > > > >
| > > > > 3- after editing my images, I saved them the folder called
"images" the
| > > > > one
| > > > > in C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name.
then I used
| > > > > the insert picture, and ended up with this at the top of all my
pages-
| > > > >
| > > > > <html>
| > > > >
| > > > > <head>
| > > > > <meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
| > > > > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
| > > > > <title>Bear Sulpture</title>
| > > > > <script language="JavaScript">
| > > > > <!--
| > > > > function FP_swapImg() {//v1.0
| > > > > var doc=document,args=arguments,elm,n; doc.$imgSwaps=new Array();
for(n=2;
| > > > > n<args.length;
| > > > > n+=2) { elm=FP_getObjectByID(args[n]); if(elm) {
| > > > > doc.$imgSwaps[doc.$imgSwaps.length]=elm;
| > > > > elm.$src=elm.src; elm.src=args[n+1]; } }
| > > > > }
| > > > >
| > > > > function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
| > > > > var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
| > > > > for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
| > > > > d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
| > > > > }
| > > > >
| > > > > function FP_getObjectByID(id,o) {//v1.0
| > > > > var c,el,els,f,m,n; if(!o)o=document; if(o.getElementById)
| > > > > el=o.getElementById(id);
| > > > > else if(o.layers) c=o.layers; else if(o.all) el=o.all[id]; if(el)
return
| > > > > el;
| > > > > if(o.id==id || o.name==id) return o; if(o.childNodes)
c=o.childNodes;
| > > > > if(c)
| > > > > for(n=0; n<c.length; n++) { el=FP_getObjectByID(id,c[n]); if(el)
return
| > > > > el; }
| > > > > f=o.forms; if(f) for(n=0; n<f.length; n++) { els=f[n].elements;
| > > > > for(m=0; m<els.length; m++){ el=FP_getObjectByID(id,els[n]);
if(el) return
| > > > > el; } }
| > > > > return null;
| > > > > }
| > > > > // -->
| > > > > </script>
| > > > > </head>
| > > > >
| > > > > I didnt want all that code, I have viewed source on lots of sites
posted
| > > > > here, and they dont have that. So... I have tried a couple of
pages where
| > > > > I
| > > > > deleted the pics from the page, and dragged them from the toggle
pane into
| > > > > the spot in my page where I want them. I then went into code and
deleted
| > > > > the
| > > > > code stuff and have this-
| > > > >
| > > > > <html>
| > > > >
| > > > > <head>
| > > > > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
| > > > > <title>Bear Sculpture</title>
| > > > > <script language="JavaScript">
| > > > > <!--
| > > > > function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
| > > > > var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
| > > > > for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
| > > > > d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
| > > > > }
| > > > > // -->
| > > > > </script>
| > > > > </head>
| > > > >
| > > > > I think this is probably wrong, because when I preview and click
on my
| > > > > button at the bottom of the page, a Error red x pop-up comes up,
and says
| > > > > "A
| > > > > runtime error has occured. Do you wish to drbug? Line 70 Error:
Object
| > > > > expected." The only strange thing is, line 70 is the copyright
2006, and
| > > > > its
| > > > > ok on all the pages I havent taken the huge paragraph of code out
for
| > > > > using
| > > > > insert pictures.
| > > > >
| > > > > My image line in code looks like this-
| > > > >
| > > > > <img border="0" src="images/web_images/cowboy_sculpture/artist
| > > > > name-cowboy-side.jpg" width="255" height="516"></p>
| > > > >
| > > > > Is this correct? I have no idea how to put my images in other
than
| > > > > dragging
| > > > > them, if I dont use the insert picture.
| > > > >
| > > > > 4- It has never ever brought up a saved embedded images. I just
click
| > > > > save.
| > > > > Is it supposed to say save embedded?
| > > > >
| > > > > 5- Do I need to delete, start over, and import my images from FP,
using
| > > > > the
| > > > > import button, or are they there correctly?
| > > > >
| > > > > I hope this all makes sense, sorry it's so long. I am so new at
this,
| > > > > thanks for any help you can be.
| > > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

....don't browse into your FP web folders with Windows Explorer that's how
you end up with thumbs.db files.


| oh yeah DELETE any of those thumbs.db files before you Publish your web,
| they will cause problems later.
|
|
| || Hi Richard, are you saying to insert my pictures using the insert picture
| at
|| the top of frontpage where it says Insert? Then I get all that code at
| the
|| top of my page, like I showed in the my first post? Isnt there a way to
| put
|| the pictures in without having all that code? So many sites I have
looked
| at
|| their source code, and they don't have that, maybe Insert is for people
| like
|| me, who dont know the good way, cant write code?
|| Thanks for your patience with me.
||
|| "Richard" wrote:
||
|| > Susie - It sounds like you are doing your images correctly. You should
| edit
|| > them in your favorite graphics program (I use Photoshop) and then save
| the
|| > images to a folder "within" your website. Then use FrontPage to insert
| the
|| > pictures into one of your webpages with your website open. That way FP
| will
|| > know how to find them in the future.
|| > --
|| > Richard M. Perry
|| >
|| >
|| > "Susie" wrote:
|| >
|| > > Hi kevin,
|| > > Thanks for your reply. Ok, so I am assuming that everything as far
as
| my
|| > > folder is ok. I kept on reading that I was supposed to IMPORT my
| images,
|| > > they said it in big letters like that, so I was worried. Can I
| continue to
|| > > save my images after I have cropped etc, into my images folder the
way
| I have
|| > > been? (Sorry, but you need to think of me as really really
| challenged, (but
|| > > getting better, and learning alot!)
|| > > Then, what about my dragging and dropping my images, and all the code
| stuff?
|| > > Does the code look ok, the second code I put in, this-
|| > >
|| > > > > <html>
|| > > > >
|| > > > > <head>
|| > > > > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
| charset=windows-1252">
|| > > > > <title>Bear Sculpture</title>
|| > > > > <script language="JavaScript">
|| > > > > <!--
|| > > > > function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
|| > > > > var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
|| > > > > for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
|| > > > > d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
|| > > > > }
|| > > > > // -->
|| > > > > </script>
|| > > > > </head>
|| > >
|| > > "Kevin Spencer" wrote:
|| > >
|| > > > Hi Susie,
|| > > >
|| > > > It shoulkd all become a lot clearer when you understand that a web
| site is
|| > > > not like your file system. Your file system is a collection of
files
| and
|| > > > folders which are not at all necessarily related to one another in
| any way.
|| > > > Creating a web site is not like making a bunch of Word documents
and
| putting
|| > > > them all in the same folder or several folders. A web site is an
| integrated,
|| > > > interconnected set of "resources" (HTML documents, images, etc.)
| that are
|| > > > all "linked" together, in a sort of... well... web.
|| > > >
|| > > > So, the first thing you've got to do is to stop thinking and saying
| that you
|| > > > are importing anything "into FP." FrontPage is a toolkit. It isn't
a
| web
|| > > > site. In fact, it can work with many web sites, and individual HTML
|| > > > documents. So, get your mind set on thinking of the web you're
| working on,
|| > > > not FrontPage.
|| > > >
|| > > > When you create a web site on your local machine, you may have it
| stored in
|| > > > a folder, and in several folders underneath that folder. But that
is
| just a
|| > > > model of how it will be stored on the web server after you publish
| it. The
|| > > > FrontPage server extensions keep track of the inter-relationships
of
|| > > > everything. And when it is published, while the structure of the
| folders
|| > > > will be relatively the same, they will no longer be in C:\Documents
| and
|| > > > Settings\Susie\anything, but in a virtual directory on a web
server.
|| > > >
|| > > > That "green globe image" is what tells you that FrontPage knows it
| is
|| > > > working on a web site, rather then a bunch of disconnected
| documents. But
|| > > > you are really looking at it the wrong way. Your folder system is
| not a web
|| > > > management system. FrontPage has a web management system built into
| it, and
|| > > > it coordinates everything you do *in FrontPage.* Anything you do
| *outside*
|| > > > of FrontPage is unknown to it. So, you should only work on files
and
| folders
|| > > > in a web site *through FrontPage.*
|| > > >
|| > > > --
|| > > > HTH,
|| > > >
|| > > > Kevin Spencer
|| > > > Microsoft MVP
|| > > > Professional Numbskull
|| > > >
|| > > > Hard work is a medication for which
|| > > > there is no placebo.
|| > > >
|| > > >
|| > > >
|| > > > || > > > > First, I am sorry for the long post, but I need to know if I am
| doing all
|| > > > > this right before I go on with more. I am still working on my
| site in
|| > > > > FP2003, I have not published yet. Somehow I missed the part
where
| you
|| > > > > need
|| > > > > to import the images into FP.
|| > > > >
|| > > > > 1- I created the new site in FP, saved it to C:\Documents and
|| > > > > Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name, this is what shows at
| the top of
|| > > > > my
|| > > > > folder list in FP, (on the left in the toggle pane). On the
| folder (thats
|| > > > > located in my documents) it has that green globe image. Is this
| correct,
|| > > > > shuld it be here, and say this at the top of the toggle pane?
|| > > > >
|| > > > > 2-In the folder C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My
| Documents\website name,
|| > > > > there are foldesr named,
|| > > > > Private
|| > > > > _vti_pvt
|| > > > > _vti_cnf
|| > > > > images (in images theres a folder for buttons, and a thumbs.db)
|| > > > >
|| > > > > Then there are all the pages I have made in FP with the big blue
e
| next to
|| > > > > them.
|| > > > > Is this correct?
|| > > > >
|| > > > > 3- after editing my images, I saved them the folder called
| "images" the
|| > > > > one
|| > > > > in C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name.
| then I used
|| > > > > the insert picture, and ended up with this at the top of all my
| pages-
|| > > > >
|| > > > > <html>
|| > > > >
|| > > > > <head>
|| > > > > <meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
|| > > > > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
| charset=windows-1252">
|| > > > > <title>Bear Sulpture</title>
|| > > > > <script language="JavaScript">
|| > > > > <!--
|| > > > > function FP_swapImg() {//v1.0
|| > > > > var doc=document,args=arguments,elm,n; doc.$imgSwaps=new Array();
| for(n=2;
|| > > > > n<args.length;
|| > > > > n+=2) { elm=FP_getObjectByID(args[n]); if(elm) {
|| > > > > doc.$imgSwaps[doc.$imgSwaps.length]=elm;
|| > > > > elm.$src=elm.src; elm.src=args[n+1]; } }
|| > > > > }
|| > > > >
|| > > > > function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
|| > > > > var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
|| > > > > for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
|| > > > > d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
|| > > > > }
|| > > > >
|| > > > > function FP_getObjectByID(id,o) {//v1.0
|| > > > > var c,el,els,f,m,n; if(!o)o=document; if(o.getElementById)
|| > > > > el=o.getElementById(id);
|| > > > > else if(o.layers) c=o.layers; else if(o.all) el=o.all[id]; if(el)
| return
|| > > > > el;
|| > > > > if(o.id==id || o.name==id) return o; if(o.childNodes)
| c=o.childNodes;
|| > > > > if(c)
|| > > > > for(n=0; n<c.length; n++) { el=FP_getObjectByID(id,c[n]); if(el)
| return
|| > > > > el; }
|| > > > > f=o.forms; if(f) for(n=0; n<f.length; n++) { els=f[n].elements;
|| > > > > for(m=0; m<els.length; m++){ el=FP_getObjectByID(id,els[n]);
| if(el) return
|| > > > > el; } }
|| > > > > return null;
|| > > > > }
|| > > > > // -->
|| > > > > </script>
|| > > > > </head>
|| > > > >
|| > > > > I didnt want all that code, I have viewed source on lots of sites
| posted
|| > > > > here, and they dont have that. So... I have tried a couple of
| pages where
|| > > > > I
|| > > > > deleted the pics from the page, and dragged them from the toggle
| pane into
|| > > > > the spot in my page where I want them. I then went into code and
| deleted
|| > > > > the
|| > > > > code stuff and have this-
|| > > > >
|| > > > > <html>
|| > > > >
|| > > > > <head>
|| > > > > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
| charset=windows-1252">
|| > > > > <title>Bear Sculpture</title>
|| > > > > <script language="JavaScript">
|| > > > > <!--
|| > > > > function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
|| > > > > var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
|| > > > > for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
|| > > > > d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
|| > > > > }
|| > > > > // -->
|| > > > > </script>
|| > > > > </head>
|| > > > >
|| > > > > I think this is probably wrong, because when I preview and click
| on my
|| > > > > button at the bottom of the page, a Error red x pop-up comes up,
| and says
|| > > > > "A
|| > > > > runtime error has occured. Do you wish to drbug? Line 70
Error:
| Object
|| > > > > expected." The only strange thing is, line 70 is the copyright
| 2006, and
|| > > > > its
|| > > > > ok on all the pages I havent taken the huge paragraph of code out
| for
|| > > > > using
|| > > > > insert pictures.
|| > > > >
|| > > > > My image line in code looks like this-
|| > > > >
|| > > > > <img border="0" src="images/web_images/cowboy_sculpture/artist
|| > > > > name-cowboy-side.jpg" width="255" height="516"></p>
|| > > > >
|| > > > > Is this correct? I have no idea how to put my images in other
| than
|| > > > > dragging
|| > > > > them, if I dont use the insert picture.
|| > > > >
|| > > > > 4- It has never ever brought up a saved embedded images. I just
| click
|| > > > > save.
|| > > > > Is it supposed to say save embedded?
|| > > > >
|| > > > > 5- Do I need to delete, start over, and import my images from FP,
| using
|| > > > > the
|| > > > > import button, or are they there correctly?
|| > > > >
|| > > > > I hope this all makes sense, sorry it's so long. I am so new at
| this,
|| > > > > thanks for any help you can be.
|| > > > >
|| > > >
|| > > >
|| > > >
|
|
 
R

Ronx

You can either use Insert->Picture or drag 'n drop them onto the
page - either way is fine. Images should be File->Imported into the
web before you use them. Saving directly into a folder in the web can
(not always) result in problems, so save from the editing program onto
the desktop, then Import into the website.

That code is NOT the result of importing images, or placing them on
your pages (however you place them). The code is generated when you
use some other function within FrontPage, such as Interactive buttons,
image swap behaviours, layers and so on.

Since images are in the web when you place them on pages, there is no
need to save them. You are doing this correctly, and if you get a
"save embedded images" dialogue for an image inserted this way - there
is something wrong. (You will get the dialogue for interactive
buttons.)

From what you have written, you have nothing to worry about.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

Susie said:
Hi kevin,
Thanks for your reply. Ok, so I am assuming that everything as far
as my
folder is ok. I kept on reading that I was supposed to IMPORT my
images,
they said it in big letters like that, so I was worried. Can I
continue to
save my images after I have cropped etc, into my images folder the
way I have
been? (Sorry, but you need to think of me as really really
challenged, (but
getting better, and learning alot!)
Then, what about my dragging and dropping my images, and all the
code stuff?
Does the code look ok, the second code I put in, this-
<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>
Click to expand...
Click to expand...


Kevin Spencer said:
Hi Susie,

It shoulkd all become a lot clearer when you understand that a web
site is
not like your file system. Your file system is a collection of
files and
folders which are not at all necessarily related to one another in
any way.
Creating a web site is not like making a bunch of Word documents
and putting
them all in the same folder or several folders. A web site is an
integrated,
interconnected set of "resources" (HTML documents, images, etc.)
that are
all "linked" together, in a sort of... well... web.

So, the first thing you've got to do is to stop thinking and saying
that you
are importing anything "into FP." FrontPage is a toolkit. It isn't
a web
site. In fact, it can work with many web sites, and individual HTML
documents. So, get your mind set on thinking of the web you're
working on,
not FrontPage.

When you create a web site on your local machine, you may have it
stored in
a folder, and in several folders underneath that folder. But that
is just a
model of how it will be stored on the web server after you publish
it. The
FrontPage server extensions keep track of the inter-relationships
of
everything. And when it is published, while the structure of the
folders
will be relatively the same, they will no longer be in C:\Documents
and
Settings\Susie\anything, but in a virtual directory on a web
server.

That "green globe image" is what tells you that FrontPage knows it
is
working on a web site, rather then a bunch of disconnected
documents. But
you are really looking at it the wrong way. Your folder system is
not a web
management system. FrontPage has a web management system built into
it, and
it coordinates everything you do *in FrontPage.* Anything you do
*outside*
of FrontPage is unknown to it. So, you should only work on files
and folders
in a web site *through FrontPage.*

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Professional Numbskull

Hard work is a medication for which
there is no placebo.



Susie said:
First, I am sorry for the long post, but I need to know if I am
doing all
this right before I go on with more. I am still working on my
site in
FP2003, I have not published yet. Somehow I missed the part
where you
need
to import the images into FP.

1- I created the new site in FP, saved it to C:\Documents and
Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name, this is what shows at
the top of
my
folder list in FP, (on the left in the toggle pane). On the
folder (thats
located in my documents) it has that green globe image. Is this
correct,
shuld it be here, and say this at the top of the toggle pane?

2-In the folder C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My
Documents\website name,
there are foldesr named,
Private
_vti_pvt
_vti_cnf
images (in images theres a folder for buttons, and a thumbs.db)

Then there are all the pages I have made in FP with the big blue
e next to
them.
Is this correct?

3- after editing my images, I saved them the folder called
"images" the
one
in C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name.
then I used
the insert picture, and ended up with this at the top of all my
pages-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sulpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_swapImg() {//v1.0
var doc=document,args=arguments,elm,n; doc.$imgSwaps=new Array();
for(n=2;
n<args.length;
n+=2) { elm=FP_getObjectByID(args[n]); if(elm) {
doc.$imgSwaps[doc.$imgSwaps.length]=elm;
elm.$src=elm.src; elm.src=args[n+1]; } }
}

function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}

function FP_getObjectByID(id,o) {//v1.0
var c,el,els,f,m,n; if(!o)o=document; if(o.getElementById)
el=o.getElementById(id);
else if(o.layers) c=o.layers; else if(o.all) el=o.all[id]; if(el)
return
el;
if(o.id==id || o.name==id) return o; if(o.childNodes)
c=o.childNodes;
if(c)
for(n=0; n<c.length; n++) { el=FP_getObjectByID(id,c[n]); if(el)
return
el; }
f=o.forms; if(f) for(n=0; n<f.length; n++) { els=f[n].elements;
for(m=0; m<els.length; m++){ el=FP_getObjectByID(id,els[n]);
if(el) return
el; } }
return null;
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I didnt want all that code, I have viewed source on lots of sites
posted
here, and they dont have that. So... I have tried a couple of
pages where
I
deleted the pics from the page, and dragged them from the toggle
pane into
the spot in my page where I want them. I then went into code and
deleted
the
code stuff and have this-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I think this is probably wrong, because when I preview and click
on my
button at the bottom of the page, a Error red x pop-up comes up,
and says
"A
runtime error has occured. Do you wish to drbug? Line 70
Error: Object
expected." The only strange thing is, line 70 is the copyright
2006, and
its
ok on all the pages I havent taken the huge paragraph of code out
for
using
insert pictures.

My image line in code looks like this-

<img border="0" src="images/web_images/cowboy_sculpture/artist
name-cowboy-side.jpg" width="255" height="516"></p>

Is this correct? I have no idea how to put my images in other
than
dragging
them, if I dont use the insert picture.

4- It has never ever brought up a saved embedded images. I just
click
save.
Is it supposed to say save embedded?

5- Do I need to delete, start over, and import my images from FP,
using
the
import button, or are they there correctly?

I hope this all makes sense, sorry it's so long. I am so new at
this,
thanks for any help you can be.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
R

Ronx

I think this is probably wrong, because when I preview and click on
my
Click to expand...
button at the bottom of the page, a Error red x pop-up comes up, and
says "A
runtime error has occured. Do you wish to drbug? Line 70 Error:
Object
expected." The only strange thing is, line 70 is the copyright 2006,
and its
ok on all the pages I havent taken the huge paragraph of code out for
using
insert pictures.
-------------------------------
The line numbers in FrontPage often do not match the line number where
the error is. The only certain way is to Preview in Browser and count
the lines from there.
The error you are seeing is probably associated with the button you
clicked or hovered over. This often occurs in Preview, use Preview in
Browser to see if it is a genuine error. If so, post again for
advice. It would help if the page were published so that we could see
it if necessary.

PS - there is nothing wrong with long posts containing all the
relevant information, short posts with the important bits missed out
are bad.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

Susie said:
Hi kevin,
Thanks for your reply. Ok, so I am assuming that everything as far
as my
folder is ok. I kept on reading that I was supposed to IMPORT my
images,
they said it in big letters like that, so I was worried. Can I
continue to
save my images after I have cropped etc, into my images folder the
way I have
been? (Sorry, but you need to think of me as really really
challenged, (but
getting better, and learning alot!)
Then, what about my dragging and dropping my images, and all the
code stuff?
Does the code look ok, the second code I put in, this-
<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>
Click to expand...
Click to expand...


Kevin Spencer said:
Hi Susie,

It shoulkd all become a lot clearer when you understand that a web
site is
not like your file system. Your file system is a collection of
files and
folders which are not at all necessarily related to one another in
any way.
Creating a web site is not like making a bunch of Word documents
and putting
them all in the same folder or several folders. A web site is an
integrated,
interconnected set of "resources" (HTML documents, images, etc.)
that are
all "linked" together, in a sort of... well... web.

So, the first thing you've got to do is to stop thinking and saying
that you
are importing anything "into FP." FrontPage is a toolkit. It isn't
a web
site. In fact, it can work with many web sites, and individual HTML
documents. So, get your mind set on thinking of the web you're
working on,
not FrontPage.

When you create a web site on your local machine, you may have it
stored in
a folder, and in several folders underneath that folder. But that
is just a
model of how it will be stored on the web server after you publish
it. The
FrontPage server extensions keep track of the inter-relationships
of
everything. And when it is published, while the structure of the
folders
will be relatively the same, they will no longer be in C:\Documents
and
Settings\Susie\anything, but in a virtual directory on a web
server.

That "green globe image" is what tells you that FrontPage knows it
is
working on a web site, rather then a bunch of disconnected
documents. But
you are really looking at it the wrong way. Your folder system is
not a web
management system. FrontPage has a web management system built into
it, and
it coordinates everything you do *in FrontPage.* Anything you do
*outside*
of FrontPage is unknown to it. So, you should only work on files
and folders
in a web site *through FrontPage.*

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Professional Numbskull

Hard work is a medication for which
there is no placebo.



Susie said:
First, I am sorry for the long post, but I need to know if I am
doing all
this right before I go on with more. I am still working on my
site in
FP2003, I have not published yet. Somehow I missed the part
where you
need
to import the images into FP.

1- I created the new site in FP, saved it to C:\Documents and
Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name, this is what shows at
the top of
my
folder list in FP, (on the left in the toggle pane). On the
folder (thats
located in my documents) it has that green globe image. Is this
correct,
shuld it be here, and say this at the top of the toggle pane?

2-In the folder C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My
Documents\website name,
there are foldesr named,
Private
_vti_pvt
_vti_cnf
images (in images theres a folder for buttons, and a thumbs.db)

Then there are all the pages I have made in FP with the big blue
e next to
them.
Is this correct?

3- after editing my images, I saved them the folder called
"images" the
one
in C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name.
then I used
the insert picture, and ended up with this at the top of all my
pages-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sulpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_swapImg() {//v1.0
var doc=document,args=arguments,elm,n; doc.$imgSwaps=new Array();
for(n=2;
n<args.length;
n+=2) { elm=FP_getObjectByID(args[n]); if(elm) {
doc.$imgSwaps[doc.$imgSwaps.length]=elm;
elm.$src=elm.src; elm.src=args[n+1]; } }
}

function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}

function FP_getObjectByID(id,o) {//v1.0
var c,el,els,f,m,n; if(!o)o=document; if(o.getElementById)
el=o.getElementById(id);
else if(o.layers) c=o.layers; else if(o.all) el=o.all[id]; if(el)
return
el;
if(o.id==id || o.name==id) return o; if(o.childNodes)
c=o.childNodes;
if(c)
for(n=0; n<c.length; n++) { el=FP_getObjectByID(id,c[n]); if(el)
return
el; }
f=o.forms; if(f) for(n=0; n<f.length; n++) { els=f[n].elements;
for(m=0; m<els.length; m++){ el=FP_getObjectByID(id,els[n]);
if(el) return
el; } }
return null;
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I didnt want all that code, I have viewed source on lots of sites
posted
here, and they dont have that. So... I have tried a couple of
pages where
I
deleted the pics from the page, and dragged them from the toggle
pane into
the spot in my page where I want them. I then went into code and
deleted
the
code stuff and have this-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I think this is probably wrong, because when I preview and click
on my
button at the bottom of the page, a Error red x pop-up comes up,
and says
"A
runtime error has occured. Do you wish to drbug? Line 70
Error: Object
expected." The only strange thing is, line 70 is the copyright
2006, and
its
ok on all the pages I havent taken the huge paragraph of code out
for
using
insert pictures.

My image line in code looks like this-

<img border="0" src="images/web_images/cowboy_sculpture/artist
name-cowboy-side.jpg" width="255" height="516"></p>

Is this correct? I have no idea how to put my images in other
than
dragging
them, if I dont use the insert picture.

4- It has never ever brought up a saved embedded images. I just
click
save.
Is it supposed to say save embedded?

5- Do I need to delete, start over, and import my images from FP,
using
the
import button, or are they there correctly?

I hope this all makes sense, sorry it's so long. I am so new at
this,
thanks for any help you can be.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Hi Susie,

I see that you've received a lot of helpful advice already. But I just want
to emphasize that whatever you do, do it through FrontPage. You can, for
example, drag and drop an image from Windows Explorer into your images
folder in FrontPage, and FrontPage will import it automatically. The reason
it refers to this as "importing" is, as I mentioned earlier, FrontPage
manages the web relationships of all the resources in your web site. It
needs to update certain information in order to treat the images as if they
are part of the web site, so that it can create (re-create) the links when
it publishes.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Professional Numbskull

Hard work is a medication for which
there is no placebo.

Susie said:
Hi Richard, are you saying to insert my pictures using the insert picture
at
the top of frontpage where it says Insert? Then I get all that code at
the
top of my page, like I showed in the my first post? Isnt there a way to
put
the pictures in without having all that code? So many sites I have looked
at
their source code, and they don't have that, maybe Insert is for people
like
me, who dont know the good way, cant write code?
Thanks for your patience with me.

Richard said:
Susie - It sounds like you are doing your images correctly. You should
edit
them in your favorite graphics program (I use Photoshop) and then save
the
images to a folder "within" your website. Then use FrontPage to insert
the
pictures into one of your webpages with your website open. That way FP
will
know how to find them in the future.
--
Richard M. Perry


Susie said:
Hi kevin,
Thanks for your reply. Ok, so I am assuming that everything as far as
my
folder is ok. I kept on reading that I was supposed to IMPORT my
images,
they said it in big letters like that, so I was worried. Can I
continue to
save my images after I have cropped etc, into my images folder the way
I have
been? (Sorry, but you need to think of me as really really challenged,
(but
getting better, and learning alot!)
Then, what about my dragging and dropping my images, and all the code
stuff?
Does the code look ok, the second code I put in, this-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

:

Hi Susie,

It shoulkd all become a lot clearer when you understand that a web
site is
not like your file system. Your file system is a collection of files
and
folders which are not at all necessarily related to one another in
any way.
Creating a web site is not like making a bunch of Word documents and
putting
them all in the same folder or several folders. A web site is an
integrated,
interconnected set of "resources" (HTML documents, images, etc.) that
are
all "linked" together, in a sort of... well... web.

So, the first thing you've got to do is to stop thinking and saying
that you
are importing anything "into FP." FrontPage is a toolkit. It isn't a
web
site. In fact, it can work with many web sites, and individual HTML
documents. So, get your mind set on thinking of the web you're
working on,
not FrontPage.

When you create a web site on your local machine, you may have it
stored in
a folder, and in several folders underneath that folder. But that is
just a
model of how it will be stored on the web server after you publish
it. The
FrontPage server extensions keep track of the inter-relationships of
everything. And when it is published, while the structure of the
folders
will be relatively the same, they will no longer be in C:\Documents
and
Settings\Susie\anything, but in a virtual directory on a web server.

That "green globe image" is what tells you that FrontPage knows it is
working on a web site, rather then a bunch of disconnected documents.
But
you are really looking at it the wrong way. Your folder system is not
a web
management system. FrontPage has a web management system built into
it, and
it coordinates everything you do *in FrontPage.* Anything you do
*outside*
of FrontPage is unknown to it. So, you should only work on files and
folders
in a web site *through FrontPage.*

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Professional Numbskull

Hard work is a medication for which
there is no placebo.



First, I am sorry for the long post, but I need to know if I am
doing all
this right before I go on with more. I am still working on my site
in
FP2003, I have not published yet. Somehow I missed the part where
you
need
to import the images into FP.

1- I created the new site in FP, saved it to C:\Documents and
Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name, this is what shows at the
top of
my
folder list in FP, (on the left in the toggle pane). On the folder
(thats
located in my documents) it has that green globe image. Is this
correct,
shuld it be here, and say this at the top of the toggle pane?

2-In the folder C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My
Documents\website name,
there are foldesr named,
Private
_vti_pvt
_vti_cnf
images (in images theres a folder for buttons, and a thumbs.db)

Then there are all the pages I have made in FP with the big blue e
next to
them.
Is this correct?

3- after editing my images, I saved them the folder called "images"
the
one
in C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name. then
I used
the insert picture, and ended up with this at the top of all my
pages-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sulpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_swapImg() {//v1.0
var doc=document,args=arguments,elm,n; doc.$imgSwaps=new Array();
for(n=2;
n<args.length;
n+=2) { elm=FP_getObjectByID(args[n]); if(elm) {
doc.$imgSwaps[doc.$imgSwaps.length]=elm;
elm.$src=elm.src; elm.src=args[n+1]; } }
}

function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}

function FP_getObjectByID(id,o) {//v1.0
var c,el,els,f,m,n; if(!o)o=document; if(o.getElementById)
el=o.getElementById(id);
else if(o.layers) c=o.layers; else if(o.all) el=o.all[id]; if(el)
return
el;
if(o.id==id || o.name==id) return o; if(o.childNodes)
c=o.childNodes;
if(c)
for(n=0; n<c.length; n++) { el=FP_getObjectByID(id,c[n]); if(el)
return
el; }
f=o.forms; if(f) for(n=0; n<f.length; n++) { els=f[n].elements;
for(m=0; m<els.length; m++){ el=FP_getObjectByID(id,els[n]); if(el)
return
el; } }
return null;
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I didnt want all that code, I have viewed source on lots of sites
posted
here, and they dont have that. So... I have tried a couple of
pages where
I
deleted the pics from the page, and dragged them from the toggle
pane into
the spot in my page where I want them. I then went into code and
deleted
the
code stuff and have this-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I think this is probably wrong, because when I preview and click on
my
button at the bottom of the page, a Error red x pop-up comes up,
and says
"A
runtime error has occured. Do you wish to drbug? Line 70 Error:
Object
expected." The only strange thing is, line 70 is the copyright
2006, and
its
ok on all the pages I havent taken the huge paragraph of code out
for
using
insert pictures.

My image line in code looks like this-

<img border="0" src="images/web_images/cowboy_sculpture/artist
name-cowboy-side.jpg" width="255" height="516"></p>

Is this correct? I have no idea how to put my images in other than
dragging
them, if I dont use the insert picture.

4- It has never ever brought up a saved embedded images. I just
click
save.
Is it supposed to say save embedded?

5- Do I need to delete, start over, and import my images from FP,
using
the
import button, or are they there correctly?

I hope this all makes sense, sorry it's so long. I am so new at
this,
thanks for any help you can be.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
G

Guest

Thank you so very much for all of your replies, I really appreciate your
help! I am looking forward to publishing soon, (I hope) and will post when I
do.
Thanks again:)

Ronx said:
I think this is probably wrong, because when I preview and click on
my
Click to expand...
button at the bottom of the page, a Error red x pop-up comes up, and
says "A
runtime error has occured. Do you wish to drbug? Line 70 Error:
Object
expected." The only strange thing is, line 70 is the copyright 2006,
and its
ok on all the pages I havent taken the huge paragraph of code out for
using
insert pictures.
-------------------------------
The line numbers in FrontPage often do not match the line number where
the error is. The only certain way is to Preview in Browser and count
the lines from there.
The error you are seeing is probably associated with the button you
clicked or hovered over. This often occurs in Preview, use Preview in
Browser to see if it is a genuine error. If so, post again for
advice. It would help if the page were published so that we could see
it if necessary.

PS - there is nothing wrong with long posts containing all the
relevant information, short posts with the important bits missed out
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Susie said:
Hi kevin,
Thanks for your reply. Ok, so I am assuming that everything as far
as my
folder is ok. I kept on reading that I was supposed to IMPORT my
images,
they said it in big letters like that, so I was worried. Can I
continue to
save my images after I have cropped etc, into my images folder the
way I have
been? (Sorry, but you need to think of me as really really
challenged, (but
getting better, and learning alot!)
Then, what about my dragging and dropping my images, and all the
code stuff?
Does the code look ok, the second code I put in, this-
<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>
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Kevin Spencer said:
Hi Susie,

It shoulkd all become a lot clearer when you understand that a web
site is
not like your file system. Your file system is a collection of
files and
folders which are not at all necessarily related to one another in
any way.
Creating a web site is not like making a bunch of Word documents
and putting
them all in the same folder or several folders. A web site is an
integrated,
interconnected set of "resources" (HTML documents, images, etc.)
that are
all "linked" together, in a sort of... well... web.

So, the first thing you've got to do is to stop thinking and saying
that you
are importing anything "into FP." FrontPage is a toolkit. It isn't
a web
site. In fact, it can work with many web sites, and individual HTML
documents. So, get your mind set on thinking of the web you're
working on,
not FrontPage.

When you create a web site on your local machine, you may have it
stored in
a folder, and in several folders underneath that folder. But that
is just a
model of how it will be stored on the web server after you publish
it. The
FrontPage server extensions keep track of the inter-relationships
of
everything. And when it is published, while the structure of the
folders
will be relatively the same, they will no longer be in C:\Documents
and
Settings\Susie\anything, but in a virtual directory on a web
server.

That "green globe image" is what tells you that FrontPage knows it
is
working on a web site, rather then a bunch of disconnected
documents. But
you are really looking at it the wrong way. Your folder system is
not a web
management system. FrontPage has a web management system built into
it, and
it coordinates everything you do *in FrontPage.* Anything you do
*outside*
of FrontPage is unknown to it. So, you should only work on files
and folders
in a web site *through FrontPage.*

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
Professional Numbskull

Hard work is a medication for which
there is no placebo.



First, I am sorry for the long post, but I need to know if I am
doing all
this right before I go on with more. I am still working on my
site in
FP2003, I have not published yet. Somehow I missed the part
where you
need
to import the images into FP.

1- I created the new site in FP, saved it to C:\Documents and
Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name, this is what shows at
the top of
my
folder list in FP, (on the left in the toggle pane). On the
folder (thats
located in my documents) it has that green globe image. Is this
correct,
shuld it be here, and say this at the top of the toggle pane?

2-In the folder C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My
Documents\website name,
there are foldesr named,
Private
_vti_pvt
_vti_cnf
images (in images theres a folder for buttons, and a thumbs.db)

Then there are all the pages I have made in FP with the big blue
e next to
them.
Is this correct?

3- after editing my images, I saved them the folder called
"images" the
one
in C:\Documents and Settings\Susie\My Documents\website name.
then I used
the insert picture, and ended up with this at the top of all my
pages-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sulpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_swapImg() {//v1.0
var doc=document,args=arguments,elm,n; doc.$imgSwaps=new Array();
for(n=2;
n<args.length;
n+=2) { elm=FP_getObjectByID(args[n]); if(elm) {
doc.$imgSwaps[doc.$imgSwaps.length]=elm;
elm.$src=elm.src; elm.src=args[n+1]; } }
}

function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}

function FP_getObjectByID(id,o) {//v1.0
var c,el,els,f,m,n; if(!o)o=document; if(o.getElementById)
el=o.getElementById(id);
else if(o.layers) c=o.layers; else if(o.all) el=o.all[id]; if(el)
return
el;
if(o.id==id || o.name==id) return o; if(o.childNodes)
c=o.childNodes;
if(c)
for(n=0; n<c.length; n++) { el=FP_getObjectByID(id,c[n]); if(el)
return
el; }
f=o.forms; if(f) for(n=0; n<f.length; n++) { els=f[n].elements;
for(m=0; m<els.length; m++){ el=FP_getObjectByID(id,els[n]);
if(el) return
el; } }
return null;
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I didnt want all that code, I have viewed source on lots of sites
posted
here, and they dont have that. So... I have tried a couple of
pages where
I
deleted the pics from the page, and dragged them from the toggle
pane into
the spot in my page where I want them. I then went into code and
deleted
the
code stuff and have this-

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<title>Bear Sculpture</title>
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function FP_preloadImgs() {//v1.0
var d=document,a=arguments; if(!d.FP_imgs) d.FP_imgs=new Array();
for(var i=0; i<a.length; i++) { d.FP_imgs=new Image;
d.FP_imgs.src=a; }
}
// -->
</script>
</head>

I think this is probably wrong, because when I preview and click
on my
button at the bottom of the page, a Error red x pop-up comes up,
and says
"A
runtime error has occured. Do you wish to drbug? Line 70
Error: Object
expected." The only strange thing is, line 70 is the copyright
2006, and
its
ok on all the pages I havent taken the huge paragraph of code out
for
using
insert pictures.

My image line in code looks like this-

<img border="0" src="images/web_images/cowboy_sculpture/artist
name-cowboy-side.jpg" width="255" height="516"></p>

Is this correct? I have no idea how to put my images in other
than
dragging
them, if I dont use the insert picture.

4- It has never ever brought up a saved embedded images. I just
click
save.
Is it supposed to say save embedded?

5- Do I need to delete, start over, and import my images from FP,
using
the
import button, or are they there correctly?

I hope this all makes sense, sorry it's so long. I am so new at
this,
thanks for any help you can be.
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