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I have two computers and have just installed Vista Business DVD, the first
computer Activated OK but the other one was refused. How can I Activate both
using the same O.S. and bearing in mind they are at the same address.

Dave.
 
I have two computers and have just installed Vista Business DVD, the first
computer Activated OK but the other one was refused. How can I Activate both
using the same O.S. and bearing in mind they are at the same address.
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Where they are located is irrelevant. You can not legally do this.

The rule is quite clear. It's one copy (or one license) for each
computer.

There's nothing new here. This is exactly the same rule that's been in
effect on every version of Windows starting with Windows 3.1. The only
thing new, starting with Windows XP, is that there's now an
enforcement mechanism. You've just found the enforcement mechanism.
 
vmax said:
I have two computers and have just installed Vista Business DVD, the first
computer Activated OK but the other one was refused.
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Exactly as it should have been.

How can I Activate both
using the same O.S.
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You can't.

and bearing in mind they are at the same address.
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Irrelevant.

You need to purchase a separate Vista license for each computer on
which you install it. (As long as you have multiple identical licenses,
it doesn't matter if you use the same CD for the installations, as long
as you use a different license each time.)

Just as it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating
systems, it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and U.S.
copyright law http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html), if not
technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each computer on which it
is installed. (Consult an attorney versed in copyright law to determine
final applicability in your locale.) The only way in which WinXP
licensing differs from that of earlier versions of Windows is that
Microsoft has finally added a copy protection and anti-theft mechanism,
Product Activation, to prevent (or at least make more difficult)
multiple installations using a single license.

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The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
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Bruce said:
Exactly as it should have been.




You can't.




Irrelevant.

You need to purchase a separate Vista license for each computer on
which you install it. (As long as you have multiple identical licenses,
it doesn't matter if you use the same CD for the installations, as long
as you use a different license each time.)

Just as it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating systems,
it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and U.S.
copyright law http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html), if not
technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each computer on which it
is installed. (Consult an attorney versed in copyright law to determine
final applicability in your locale.) The only way in which WinXP
licensing differs from that of earlier versions of Windows is that
Microsoft has finally added a copy protection and anti-theft mechanism,
Product Activation, to prevent (or at least make more difficult)
multiple installations using a single license.
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Let's say, he purchases one disk, and uses a common disk,
but with two "Keys" under the business (or multiple) license
arrangement. The first install is accepted, but the second
refused. What happens then?
Let's face it - the activation and licensing scheme is not
perfect, there are 'gotchas'.
 
Lester said:
Let's say, he purchases one disk, and uses a common disk,
but with two "Keys" under the business (or multiple) license
arrangement. The first install is accepted, but the second refused. What
happens then?
Let's face it - the activation and licensing scheme is not perfect,
there are 'gotchas'.
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Perfect? Not even close.

MS uses PA to take a snapshot of the hardware, so when the hardware
changes enough, PA will castrate your Vista install in 3 days.

The f*#ked up part of it is that MS based this hardware snapshot on
values that can be changed by both firmware and driver updates. So PA
can go off, even if you never actually physically change your hardware.

PA tied to hardware, but it is so dumb, that it can't tell the friggin'
difference between a physical hardware change and a software change.

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Kurt
Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
 
Let's say, he purchases one disk, and uses a common disk, but with two
"Keys" under the business (or multiple) license arrangement. The first
install is accepted, but the second refused. What happens then?
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Then he picks up the phone and activates in that manner. I haven't seen a
legitimate one refused yet. It would be unusual for that to happen though,
unless one of the licenses had been previously activated elsewhere. There is
nothing about installation or activation that comes from the disk used other
than the Product Key needing to match the media type (OEM vs Retail).
Let's face it - the activation and licensing scheme is not perfect, there
are 'gotchas'.
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Nothing in the world of software licensing is perfect. What's most important
is whether or not there is an alternative method of getting it done when the
intended method doesn't work. Many software vendors make it very difficult
to discern alternatives, if they exist at all.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
 
Lester said:
Let's say, he purchases one disk, and uses a common disk, but with two
"Keys" under the business (or multiple) license arrangement. The first
install is accepted, but the second refused. What happens then?
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If he uses two separate legitimate Product Keys, that won't happen. If
he truly has the correct sort of multiple-use license, it's not at all
likely to happen.

Let's face it - the activation and licensing scheme is not perfect,
there are 'gotchas'.
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No, no technology is perfect. That's why there's an option to use
telephone activation. It takes only minutes.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
Bruce said:
If he uses two separate legitimate Product Keys, that won't happen.
If he truly has the correct sort of multiple-use license, it's not at
all likely to happen.



No, no technology is perfect. That's why there's an option to use
telephone activation. It takes only minutes.
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The fact that MS requires that one prove one is not a pirate over and
over and over and over again is unconscionable and unacceptable.

Alias
 
Rick said:
Then he picks up the phone and activates in that manner. I haven't seen
a legitimate one refused yet. It would be unusual for that to happen
though, unless one of the licenses had been previously activated
elsewhere. There is nothing about installation or activation that comes
from the disk used other than the Product Key needing to match the media
type (OEM vs Retail).
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Just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

I know I have been hung up on by PA phone reps, and I even know of a
former MSMVP that was hung up on.
Nothing in the world of software licensing is perfect. What's most
important is whether or not there is an alternative method of getting it
done when the intended method doesn't work. Many software vendors make
it very difficult to discern alternatives, if they exist at all.
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So that makes it right!

Please Rick, why be an apologist for screwing licensing?

Non-commercial home licenses should be tied to the individual, not some
hardware combination to be determined after purchase. Especially to
hardware values that are changeable by driver and firmware updates.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
 
Bruce said:
If he uses two separate legitimate Product Keys, that won't happen. If
he truly has the correct sort of multiple-use license, it's not at all
likely to happen.


No, no technology is perfect. That's why there's an option to use
telephone activation. It takes only minutes.
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LOL!

How many times have we seen people that didn't even know about the phone
option until told here?

The confusion is purposeful. To confuse people into thinking that they
need to buy an unnecessary license.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
 
Alias said:
The fact that MS requires that one prove one is not a pirate over and
over and over and over again is unconscionable and unacceptable.

Alias
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Translation: alias is an admitted thief and can't get around Vista's
security and validation.
Frank
 
Frank said:
Translation: alias is an admitted thief and can't get around Vista's
security and validation.
Frank
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I buy my software and had no problem activating Vista or any of the
other MS software that requires activation that I have paid for. So, the
real translation is you're LIAR and you are willing to make up
*anything* about someone in a lame attempt to out debate them. You fail
every time and only succeed in making a fool out of yourself.

Alias
 
Frank said:
Alias wrote:



Translation: alias is an admitted thief and can't get around Vista's
security and validation.
Frank
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Translation: Frank is incapable of telling the truth, as it's easy to
"get around Vista's security and validation," if one really wants to.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
 
Alias said:
I buy my software and had no problem activating Vista or any of the
other MS software that requires activation that I have paid for. So, the
real translation is you're LIAR and you are willing to make up
*anything* about someone in a lame attempt to out debate them. You fail
every time and only succeed in making a fool out of yourself.

Alias
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Real translation: Frank just nailed alias really good...LOL!
Now try lying your way out of that one mr liar...LOL!
Frank
 
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