Accessories & "Manage My Computer"

[Kent Petersen]

Two part question:

1) I'm trying to get the rt-click My Computer/Manage working. I found
Lynda's post (below) which suggests a couple of registry keys. Adding the
registry keys I now get the "Manage" entry in the list of options after
rt-clicking My Computer, but when I click on it I get an error message
saying:

"This file does not have a program associated with it for performing this
action. Create an association in the Folder Options control panel."

I can run the Manage console by doing Run compmgmnt.msc

Adding the following registry keys to a configuration in TD will add
"manage" functionality:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}\shell\Manage
Default REG_EXPAND_SZ
@%%windir%%\system32\mycomp.dll,-400
Suppression Policy REG_DWORD
0x4000003c(1073741884)

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}\shell\Manage \
command
Default REG_EXPAND_SZ
%%windir%%\system32\mmc.exe /s %%windir%%\system32\compmgmt.ms

Hope this helps,

Lynda

2- I'm also trying to get the full compliment of "Accessories" (e.g.
notepad, calculator, etc) to be available from the start menu. I've added
the Windows Accessories component which says it includes notepad,
calculator, etc. After doing so, I can't find Notepad.exe in the Windows
folder. Accessories on the start menu still has just Communications &
Address book.

Thanks in advance

 

[Doug Hoeffel \(eMVP\)]

Kent:

Do you have the file compmgmt.msc in your image? It's contained in the
"Adminstrative Support Tools" component. Beware adding this one... it can
pull in lotsa of others.

HTH... Doug

 

[Doug Hoeffel \(eMVP\)]

Oops! I missed your statement "I can run the Manage console by doing Run
compmgmnt.msc".

I would still like to know if you just manually copied over compmgmt.msc?
If so, you may be missing some other file from the Admininstration Support
Tools component like mycomput.dll etc.

HTH... Doug

 

[Kent Petersen]

Doug:

compmgmt.msc was added to the image with the Admin Support Tools component
when I added the component.

Kent

 

[Doug Hoeffel \(eMVP\)]

Kent:

Ok. This is strange. The error implies that you don't have the msc file
association but this can't be true since you can run compmgmt.msc from
Start-Run. I'm also assuming that you can run Computer Management via
Start - Programs - Administrative Tools.

Can you describe more about how/what components you build into you image?

.... Doug

 

[Kent Petersen]

Doug:

Thanks for staying on this. Here's what I've got. I guess the pertinent
components I'm including are:

-Administrative Support Tools
-Control Panels (component from XPfiles.com w/all items enabled)
-Domain Participation
-Explorer Shell
-Friendly Logon User Interface
-Microsoft Management Console
-User Interface Core (w/all items enabled except MyPics, My Music, Prohibit
access to CP, Prohibit access to Hot Keys)
-Windows Accessories
-Windows Logon (Standard)
-Windows XP Explorer User Interface (XP visual style (luna) is enabled)
-Windows XP Visual Style

I put this list together based on the components that seem to show up in
answers to problems similar to mine. After the image FBAs and I boot up in
XPe the first time, I do not have any items in Start|All
Programs|Accessories except "Communication" and "Address Book". Seems that
I should have "Notepad", "Calculator", "Wordpad", "Paint", etc based on the
help description for the "Windows Accessories" component.

Further, I can run Computer Management bu doing Start|Run, compmgmt.msc. I
do not, however, have "Manage" listed on the rt-click context menu for "My
Computer" until I manually add Lynda's registry settings listed in the
original post.

I do not have "Administrative Tools" listed anywhere on the Start menu. If
I go to Start|Control Panel|Admininstrative Tools, the only item listed is
"Component Services".

I am logged on to the only account setup and it is "Administrator". I just
noticed that I don't have "ipconfig.exe" in the image as well???

Not sure what other info to provide.

Kent

 

[Doug Hoeffel \(eMVP\)]

Kent:

Do you see a Start - Program Files - Administrative Tools? In
Administrative Tools, you don't see "Event Viewer" or "Services"? You
should since you added "Administrative Support Tools".

Also, FWIW, the file mycomp.dll in Lynda Allen's [MS] e-mail should be
mycomput.dll.

HTH... Doug

 

[Kent Petersen]

Doug:

I don't have a "Administrative Tools" program group in the start menu at
all. I do have an Administrative Tools section in Control Panel, but it
only has the "Component Services" item.

I caught the missing 'c' in 'compmgmt.msc' from the registry settings. I
didn't catch the 'mycomput.dll' typo. I'll try that in the morning and will
post the results.

Thanks,

Kent

 

[Andy Bridge]

"Standard Start Menu Shortcuts" brings in loads of Start Menu shortcuts,
particularly ones in the Administrative Tools section of Control Panel - It
took me absolutely ages to discover this!!

HTH,
Andy

 

[Doug Hoeffel \(eMVP\)]

Ah yes! Thats the one. Good job! I have all this in my image as well but
I don't exactly remember how it all got there ;-)

Kent may also want to enable the display of Administrative Tools via Rt.
Click on toolbar then Properties, select Start Menu tab, Customize, then
Check "Display Administrative Tools".

HTH... Doug

 

[Kent Petersen]

Doug/Andy:

Thanks again for your combined help. I feel like I'm sliding backwards on
this issue. First thing I did was to correct the registry entry
"mycomp.dll" to "mycomput.dll" based on Doug's suggestion yesterday evening.
This made no difference...get the "Manage" item on the rt-click of "My
Computer" but still get the same error message ("This file does not have a
program associated with it for performing this action. Create an
association in the Folder Options control panel.") I can do Start|Run
"compmgmt.msc" and it comes up OK.

Next I tried Andy's suggestion of adding the "Standard Start Menu Shortcuts"
component. During build I got ~50 errors regarding "Invalid resource" for
each of the shortcuts added by the "Standard Start Menu Shortcuts"
component. The odd thing here is that these errors include those shortcuts
for Explorer.exe, compmgmt.msc, etc for items that exist in the image (I can
do a "Run" and get them). In addition there are a bunch of shortcut errors
for things like notepad, calculator, wordpad, etc which are items that are
supposed to be included by adding the "Windows Accessories" component.
Indeed, looking at the XPe directory after its FBA'd I find these files
where they should be.

Not sure where to go next.

Kent

 

[Doug Hoeffel \(eMVP\)]

Kent:

Maybe you are missing shell related registry keys? When you build, are you
allowing auto-resolve of dependencies? In my image, I have lotsa "Shell *"
components. Do you have such things?

HTH... Doug

 

[Kent Petersen]

Doug:

Looks like I've got 13 or so "Shell*" components. At this point in my
development I'm using Auto-resolve. I'm pretty much putting in everything
but the kitchen sink, couldn't find it in the list of components .

Kent