Abbreviated (DOS) name in titles

[Terry Pinnell]

Several of my regular programs have started displaying the name of the
file opened in abbreviated (DOS 8.3) form, instead of the full name.

Can anyone suggest a likely cause (and cure) please?

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Several of my regular programs have started displaying the name of the
file opened in abbreviated (DOS 8.3) form, instead of the full name.

Can anyone suggest a likely cause (and cure) please?

- Which of your regular programs display SFNs (Short File Names)?
- Is this a recent occurrence?

 

[Terry Pinnell]

- Which of your regular programs display SFNs (Short File Names)?

PaintShop Pro is one. I made a mental note of another one - which I
now can't remember or find!

And I cannot today reproduce this after dragging many files into PSP
from various folders. All show their full name in the title.

I thought it might have something to do with the entry in File Types.,
a topic I've never really understood this topic. For example, below
are the settings for opening a PSP image file in PSP and a JPG in
IrfanView respectively. Do you know why they should be different?


PSP
---
Application used to perform action:
"C:\Program Files\Jasc Software Inc\Paint Shop Pro 8\Paint Shop
Pro.exe" /dde

Used DDE:
Checked

DDE Message:
[open("%1")]

IrfanView
---------
Application used to perform action:
"C:\Program Files\IrfanView\i_view32.exe" "%1"

Used DDE:
Checked

(DDE Message: blank)

- Is this a recent occurrence?

Yes. At least, I only became aware of it recently.

 

[chuckcar]

Several of my regular programs have started displaying the name of the
file opened in abbreviated (DOS 8.3) form, instead of the full name.

Can anyone suggest a likely cause (and cure) please?

Put the following line in the batch file for them:

set LFN=Y

 

[Pennywise]

Put the following line in the batch file for them:

set LFN=Y

Chucktard can hurt your OS, you read, chuckle, then find some real
advice.

Not knowing what OS your using, there was that option in the control
panel/folder Options/View up to Win2000.

XP apparently requires a Registry edit, you need to figure out why it
changed in the first place/
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/121007

 

[chuckcar]

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Chucktard can hurt your OS, you read, chuckle, then find some real
advice.

No mention or *asking* even of OS, only that the "name is displayed in
abbreviated form" the fact that it displays it at *all* dictates that
we're talking about DOS in some form. Now unless *you* can prove you have
a clue about this just **** off.

XP apparently requires a Registry edit, you need to figure out why it
changed in the first place/
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/121007

Bullshit. It's a setting that's existed since 95. You don't mess around
with regedit if you can avoid it at *all*. *First* you eliminate the
commone causes *then* you worry about system "flaws". Technet only give
fixes where there *are* no setting problems.

 

[Terry Pinnell]

Chucktard can hurt your OS, you read, chuckle, then find some real
advice.

Not knowing what OS your using, there was that option in the control
panel/folder Options/View up to Win2000.

XP apparently requires a Registry edit, you need to figure out why it
changed in the first place/
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/121007

Thanks. I wasn't aware of that performance hit, or indeed that you
could switch off 8.3 file creation. I may try that. I'm guessing that
the equivalent command to RE-enable it is:
fsutil.exe behavior set disable8dot3 1
although that's not explicit in the KB article. I've tried neither
command yet. I do occasionally use 8.3 filenames so I'm concerned that
running that disable command might remove that facility.

Anyway, as you may have seen from my reply to Pegasus, I'm (happily)
unable to reproduce the problem right now. Mind you, I hate unsolved
puzzles, and I expect this issue will return when I've forgotten about
it!

 

[thanatoid]

(e-mail address removed) wrote in

No mention or *asking* even of OS, only that the "name is
displayed in abbreviated form"

Most newish posters do not mention the OS since they don't know
they should, etc.

the fact that it displays it
at *all* dictates that we're talking about DOS in some
form.

My CD-R file titles display in DOS format under Windows, at
least some of the time. I don't know why, and thank fubar, I
don't care.

Now unless *you* can prove you have a clue about this
just **** off.

Jeesh, will you kids stop it? "Can't we all just get along?"

<SNIP>

 

[Pennywise]

No mention or *asking* even of OS, only that the "name is displayed in
abbreviated form" the fact that it displays it at *all* dictates that
we're talking about DOS in some form.

Don't need to know the OS, the feature was used until Windows 2000 you
could enable 8.3 thru the folder options.

If your capable of doing so, in a CMD window type in DIR /X
both long and 8.3 convention are listed, it's a trick to delete files
with higher ascii names (you delete the 8.3 file name)

As I look now this was also posted to
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general so how you can come up with DOS..

Second opinion
http://v2.tlab404.com/articles/detail.asp?iFaq=377&iType=15
regedit.
This will disable using DIR /X as the 8.3 will no longer be listed

 

[Pennywise]

Anyway, as you may have seen from my reply to Pegasus, I'm (happily)
unable to reproduce the problem right now.

No they didn't cross post.

 

[Terry Pinnell]

- Which of your regular programs display SFNs (Short File Names)?

PaintShop Pro is one. I made a mental note of another one - which I
now can't remember or find!

And I cannot today reproduce this after dragging many files into PSP
from various folders. All show their full name in the title.

I thought it might have something to do with the entry in File Types.,
a topic I've never really understood this topic. For example, below
are the settings for opening a PSP image file in PSP and a JPG in
IrfanView respectively. Do you know why they should be different?


PSP
---
Application used to perform action:
"C:\Program Files\Jasc Software Inc\Paint Shop Pro 8\Paint Shop
Pro.exe" /dde

Used DDE:
Checked

DDE Message:
[open("%1")]

IrfanView
---------
Application used to perform action:
"C:\Program Files\IrfanView\i_view32.exe" "%1"

Used DDE:
Checked

(DDE Message: blank)

Anyone able to explain the above difference please?

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Several of my regular programs have started displaying the name of the
file opened in abbreviated (DOS 8.3) form, instead of the full name.

Can anyone suggest a likely cause (and cure) please?

PaintShop Pro is one. I made a mental note of another one - which I
now can't remember or find!

And I cannot today reproduce this after dragging many files into PSP
from various folders. All show their full name in the title.

I thought it might have something to do with the entry in File Types.,
a topic I've never really understood this topic. For example, below
are the settings for opening a PSP image file in PSP and a JPG in
IrfanView respectively. Do you know why they should be different?


PSP
---
Application used to perform action:
"C:\Program Files\Jasc Software Inc\Paint Shop Pro 8\Paint Shop
Pro.exe" /dde

Used DDE:
Checked

DDE Message:
[open("%1")]

IrfanView
---------
Application used to perform action:
"C:\Program Files\IrfanView\i_view32.exe" "%1"

Used DDE:
Checked

(DDE Message: blank)

Anyone able to explain the above difference please?

Some general comments:
- On Sunday you reported that you could no longer reproduce the phenomenon,
thus suggesting that the problem had resolved itself. Has it or hasn't it?
- I asked if this is a recent phenomenon. If it is then you might be able to
fix it with System Restore. The longer you wait, the smaller your chances of
doing it with this tool.
- So far I do not have a good grasp of the exact nature of the problem. A
picture might help.
- Since you appear to be familiar with the technique used to tell Windows
how to open a file, you might want to experiment with those settings. You
can't do any harm as long as you make a not of the original setting.
- Did you check if the problem files actually do have LFNs? If they have
SFNs only then you'd be chasing your tail . . .

 

[Terry Pinnell]

Several of my regular programs have started displaying the name of the
file opened in abbreviated (DOS 8.3) form, instead of the full name.

Can anyone suggest a likely cause (and cure) please?

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

- Which of your regular programs display SFNs (Short File Names)?

PaintShop Pro is one. I made a mental note of another one - which I
now can't remember or find!

And I cannot today reproduce this after dragging many files into PSP
from various folders. All show their full name in the title.

I thought it might have something to do with the entry in File Types.,
a topic I've never really understood this topic. For example, below
are the settings for opening a PSP image file in PSP and a JPG in
IrfanView respectively. Do you know why they should be different?


PSP
---
Application used to perform action:
"C:\Program Files\Jasc Software Inc\Paint Shop Pro 8\Paint Shop
Pro.exe" /dde

Used DDE:
Checked

DDE Message:
[open("%1")]

IrfanView
---------
Application used to perform action:
"C:\Program Files\IrfanView\i_view32.exe" "%1"

Used DDE:
Checked

(DDE Message: blank)

Anyone able to explain the above difference please?

Some general comments:
- On Sunday you reported that you could no longer reproduce the phenomenon,
thus suggesting that the problem had resolved itself. Has it or hasn't it?

Yes, it did. And PaintShop Pro has remained OK. But the other program,
TMPGEnc DVD Author, whose name I'd forgotten, started doing it again
just now.

But the current question is probably independent of that issue. I'd
like to understand why the syntax and entries vary in the way I
described. Anyone know please?

- I asked if this is a recent phenomenon.

And I said, "Yes. At least, I only became aware of it recently."

If it is then you might be able to
fix it with System Restore. The longer you wait, the smaller your chances of
doing it with this tool.
- So far I do not have a good grasp of the exact nature of the problem. A
picture might help.

I don't see what's so hard to understand. PaintShop Pro "started
displaying the name of the file opened in abbreviated (DOS 8.3) form,
instead of the full name." And TMPGEnc "started displaying the name of
the file opened in abbreviated (DOS 8.3) form, instead of the full
name." Hardly worth a picture!

- Since you appear to be familiar with the technique used to tell Windows
how to open a file, you might want to experiment with those settings. You
can't do any harm as long as you make a not of the original setting.
- Did you check if the problem files actually do have LFNs?

Yes, of course they do ...

If they have SFNs only then you'd be chasing your tail . . .

....I'd hardly post the query in that case!

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Yes, of course they do ...


...I'd hardly post the query in that case!

Some posters overlook even the most basic things. Respondents simply cannot
afford to assume that the OP has done his/her homework. Anyway, I'm afraid I
cannot help you. I have never seen the problem and I'm beginning to wonder
if you're the victim of a virus infection or malware. See if the problem
occurs in Safe Mode too.