A3 printers in Aust - HP 8750 vs Epson R1800

[Caitlin]

I hadn't heard much about this new range of HP printers with 'Vivera' fade
resistant inks, but some brochures have appeared in the paper this week.

As I've been sorely tempted by an R1800, but the price here in Australia is
exorbitant - over AU$1000. I see that the HP 8750 model is far more
reasonably priced available at around AU$650.

My main concern is photo longevity, so until I heard about these new Vivera
inks the R1800 seemed to be my only option is A3 printers.

Anyone had any experience of the 8750? It seems to get fairly good reviews,
though with some criticism for over saturated prints.

 

[measekite]

I hear tell that nothing has either the longevity nor the problems of
pigmented inks and the printers that use them.

 

[Bob Headrick]

I hadn't heard much about this new range of HP printers with 'Vivera' fade
resistant inks, but some brochures have appeared in the paper this week.

As I've been sorely tempted by an R1800, but the price here in Australia is
exorbitant - over AU$1000. I see that the HP 8750 model is far more
reasonably priced available at around AU$650.

My main concern is photo longevity, so until I heard about these new Vivera
inks the R1800 seemed to be my only option is A3 printers.

Anyone had any experience of the 8750? It seems to get fairly good reviews,
though with some criticism for over saturated prints.

See http://www.wilhelm-research.com/hp/8750.html for fade results for the
Photosmart 8750. You can compare with other printer models at
http://www.wilhelm-research . I have used the 8750 and like the prints, but
since I work for HP I will leave it to other users to comment on their
experiences with this very nice printer .

Regards,
Bob Headrick, not speaking for my employer HP

 

[Rob]

I hadn't heard much about this new range of HP printers with 'Vivera' fade
resistant inks, but some brochures have appeared in the paper this week.

As I've been sorely tempted by an R1800, but the price here in Australia is
exorbitant - over AU$1000. I see that the HP 8750 model is far more
reasonably priced available at around AU$650.

My main concern is photo longevity, so until I heard about these new Vivera
inks the R1800 seemed to be my only option is A3 printers.

Anyone had any experience of the 8750? It seems to get fairly good reviews,
though with some criticism for over saturated prints.

I did buy a HP7550 printer and do have some prints from this and other
HP printers. There were several issues with mine and which HP could not
resolve with there global help line - bloody hopeless. I did find the
prints were excellent, which some are over 3years uncovered, still
looking good. So I would say the inks/papers are fair enough.

Hence when looking for an A3 printer wanted a pigmented ink version
printer. I chose the Epson R1800 as there write ups have been excellent.
Archival = Epson say 100 years! I'm not disappointed with the results
coming off. I have been using Ilford Gallerie paper with its printer
profile from the Ilford site. I also have the R210 BTW which I bought
when I was having HP problems - never been disappoint with that either
mainly printed CD's. The Epson does every thing I require. Next I will
look into a CIS if feasible. Inks are about $16 ea $11 gloss. We should
not speak of 3rd party in this group, or so I have been told, but they
are available around the place.

I had mine imported from Singapore. The best Australian price I found
was $1040.00 I saved over $200 on that. You can't save if you have to
pay freight, insurance and 10%GST even from the cheapest US base price
($550USD). I had to laugh mine came with 7 different warranty cards from
around the Asian region.

Where are you located??

rm

 

[Caitlin]

*snip*

Where are you located??

Sydney

 

[Rob]

*snip*




Sydney

i'm 80k south

 

[Caitlin]

i'm 80k south

So how did you get your R1800 from Singapore without paying GST and freight?
Get a friend to travel in with it?

 

[Rob]

So how did you get your R1800 from Singapore without paying GST and freight?
Get a friend to travel in with it?

Friend and it was declared for a reasonable price at SYD on the way in.
Not sure where it was purchased over there but I did get a price off
Cathy Photo for $1006 SGD as a starting point. These weight about 15Kg
BTW so a good baggage allowance is also necessary.
The outside box is 460mmW x 600mmL x 330mmD (double boxed).

rm



Like I said before the best price was through PCXite here at $1040.

rm

 

[Caitlin]

Friend and it was declared for a reasonable price at SYD on the way in.
Not sure where it was purchased over there but I did get a price off Cathy
Photo for $1006 SGD as a starting point. These weight about 15Kg BTW so a
good baggage allowance is also necessary.
The outside box is 460mmW x 600mmL x 330mmD (double boxed).

rm



Like I said before the best price was through PCXite here at $1040.

This is why I'm now leaning towards the HP 8750. I can continue to use the
Canon IP4000 for documents and proofs, so the expense of the ink tanks on
the HP isn't such a concern. But a big saving of $350 on the printer. Don't
know how the print quality compares though.

 

[Arthur Entlich]

Most dye based ink sets rely in part on the paper formulations to "set"
or hold the ink in place on them. This is fine if you will stick with
the manufacturer's paper and if you like the type of papers offered.

Most dye inks used in this situation use papers that have poor
resistance to water or dampness (Swellable polymer). If that's not a
problem, then it's a reasonable solution. If paper type and variability
is important, or if resistance to moisture is critical, for now, pigment
inks are a more appropriate solution.

Art