8 gigs of ram on 2000 Adv server Low Resources????

[PeterC]

I'm building a server for a client, and they require at least 8 gigs of ram.
and am having a hard time getting Adv. Server to behave itself with more
than 2 gigs of ram installed.
I have added the Physical addressing switch (/PAE) to the boot.ini file
which makes windows see all 8 gigs.
even tried the /3GB switch in boot.ini
BUT
with all 8 gigs installed device manager has yellow ! on several devices,
Video adapter, and 2 of the PCI bridges
when I take out all but 2 gigs of memory, the system recognizes the NIC's
and Video card, and the PCI devices.
and works quite well, I have installed all service packs, and patches.
I thought ok, bad memory, swapped out the chips, even tried different brand.
Still has the problem with more than 2 gigs installed.
Bad mother board, I thought of that also, tried 2 other boards of the same
model. same problem.
looking deeper into device manager with all 8 gigs installed, the Yellow!!!
shows not enough system resources to start device.

Mother board: supermicro x5dpe-g2 w/2 gig NIC, and ATI rage/xl onboard
PCI card: Miricom, PCIX rev. D fiber card
Hard disk: 80 gig seagate
Memory: 8 - DDR 1G 2100 registered

anyone have some suggestions as to how I can get windows resources
increased?

Thanks for any Help.

 

[Colin Nash [MVP]]

Have a look at the corresponding section for that error here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;245386

Insufficient resources is not necessarily related to the amount of memory.
Looks like an IRQ conflict.

 

[SaltPeter]

I'm building a server for a client, and they require at least 8 gigs of ram.
and am having a hard time getting Adv. Server to behave itself with more
than 2 gigs of ram installed.
I have added the Physical addressing switch (/PAE) to the boot.ini file
which makes windows see all 8 gigs.
even tried the /3GB switch in boot.ini
BUT
with all 8 gigs installed device manager has yellow ! on several devices,
Video adapter, and 2 of the PCI bridges
when I take out all but 2 gigs of memory, the system recognizes the NIC's
and Video card, and the PCI devices.
and works quite well, I have installed all service packs, and patches.
I thought ok, bad memory, swapped out the chips, even tried different brand.
Still has the problem with more than 2 gigs installed.
Bad mother board, I thought of that also, tried 2 other boards of the same
model. same problem.
looking deeper into device manager with all 8 gigs installed, the Yellow!!!
shows not enough system resources to start device.

Mother board: supermicro x5dpe-g2 w/2 gig NIC, and ATI rage/xl onboard
PCI card: Miricom, PCIX rev. D fiber card
Hard disk: 80 gig seagate
Memory: 8 - DDR 1G 2100 registered

anyone have some suggestions as to how I can get windows resources
increased?

Thanks for any Help.

The definition "Windows resources" has absolutely nothing to do with the
amount of hardware memory installed on the system. The operating system
provides applications with:
a) a stack for automatic temporary variables.
b) a heap for programmatically allocated memory.

If an application reserves memory and then fails to release it, a memory
leak occurs. Regardless of how many terabytes of memory is installed, you
will find that the stack and heap can only "point" to so many pages of free
and protected allocations. In fact, the more memory is installed, the slower
the memory subsystem will perform overall. A huge stack/heap is much more
difficult to manage and impossible to recover from. Find yourself a
competent debugging utility and walk the heap, you'll see what i mean.

Use a 2Gig mem module and run performance monitor to troubleshoot specific
processes and their memory use. Verify Task Manager for unusual activity as
well. Could be anything from a non-compatible device driver, a non-compliant
W2K application, or a corrupted TCP/IP stack / service. Check for DOS
attacks too.

 

[Peter]

With all 8 gigs of ram installed I get this.
Video display runs in VGASave mode
No access to the onboard NICs or anything connected to the PCI slots.
I have service pack 4 installed.
All required motherboard drivers installed.
Physical Addressing Extensions (PAE) are enabled
Page file set to 4092, that's the biggest windows says it will let me make.

I have even tried disableing ALL devices in BIOS, removed any PCI card and
still come up with not
enough resources.

Even flashed with supermicro's current BIOS 1.5, as suggested by Supermicro.
System info shows only 2 devices sharing IRQ #4, APG video and Com1, but no
conflicts
here is what device manager shows.

Onboard ATI ragexl:
the device cannot find enough free resources that it can use(code12)
If you want to use the device, you will need to disable one of the other
devices on this system

Resources tab shows
Memory Range FB000000-FBFFFFFF USED BY SYSTEM BOARD
Memory Range: FA400000-FA400FFF USED BY SYSTEM BOARD

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Intel(R)E7000 series Hub interface B PCI to PCI bridge - 2543)
the device cannot find enough free resources that it can use(code12)
If you want to use the device, you will need to disable one of the other
devices on this system

Resource tab shows:
Input/output range 3000-3FFF
Memory Range FA100000 - FA2FFFFF USED BY SYSTEM BOARD
Memory Range FD000000 - FDFFFFFF USED BY SYSTEM BOARD

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Intel(R)E7000 series Hub interface C PCI to PCI bridge - 2545)
the device cannot find enough free resources that it can use(code12)
If you want to use the device, you will need to disable one of the other
devices on this system

Resource tab shows:
Memory Range FA300000 - FA3FFFFF USED BY SYSTEM BOARD



Still nothing works well with more than 2 gigs.

 

[Mike Brown - Process Manager]

With all 8 gigs of ram installed I get this.
Video display runs in VGASave mode
No access to the onboard NICs or anything connected to the PCI slots.
I have service pack 4 installed.
All required motherboard drivers installed.
Physical Addressing Extensions (PAE) are enabled
Page file set to 4092, that's the biggest windows says it will let me make.

I have even tried disableing ALL devices in BIOS, removed any PCI card and
still come up with not
enough resources.

Even flashed with supermicro's current BIOS 1.5, as suggested by Supermicro.
System info shows only 2 devices sharing IRQ #4, APG video and Com1, but no
conflicts

I would not let my display adapter share an interrupt with a COM port. Will
you be using the COM port? If not, disable it. If so, I suggest you change
the IRQ for the display to 11 or similar. You could also disable the
onboard video in favor of a PCI card for testing.

From what you pasted below, it looks like you system board is not handling
the extra memory well. I would remove all expansion cards, possibly even
disabling one of the ATA ports to free up as many resources as possible. I
would bet that the problem lies either in the motherboard itself or an
incorrect BIOS setup.