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Charlie Tame

dennis said:
Kludge? Problems arise because some programmers takes shortcuts, and
don't use the OS like they should, and ignore the possibility that
something could exist above 4G. Normal applications doesn't need to be
aware of anything.


Well, aside from the fact that you are determined to attack anyone who
has an opinion on the subject but who isn't called Dennis, yes, it is a
Kludge. It is a "Workaround" for a physical problem that is fine for
those aware of it but not for those who aren't. It is no substitute for
a real 64 bit system and you well know that.

As far as most desktop users are concerned the limit is 4GB address
space, less whatever the OS and hardware need to set aside.

In fact this merry go round of mayhem started when memory was declared
"Adequate" at 640K and people started writing workarounds for "Expanded"
or "Extended" memory. What fun that was?

The fact is that Microsoft chose not to make it available for general
use in their 32 bit operating systems because there's now no point.
Nobody is arguing with you about the fact that it's there. In fact I am
not even arguing that programmers don't take the shortcuts you mention.
As you state "Normal" applications do not care. But if you are writing
an application that needs to be aware, or needs drivers to be aware then
you are better served by writing it for 64 bit?

There is so little difference in price between 32 bit and 64 bit
hardware that implementing PAE is not worth the time.
 
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dennis

Charlie said:
Well, aside from the fact that you are determined to attack anyone who
has an opinion on the subject but who isn't called Dennis

So now I am attacking people, because I don't agree with what they say?
Well, I don't want to attack you, so I better shut up then.
 
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Gander

Charlie Tame skrev:
It is no substitute for
a real 64 bit system and you well know that.

If the driver issue didn't exist, PAE would be perfect for using more
than (up to a certain point)/precise 4GB RAM.
 
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Charlie Tame

Gander said:
Charlie Tame skrev:


If the driver issue didn't exist, PAE would be perfect for using more
than (up to a certain point)/precise 4GB RAM.


I am not sure I'd say "Perfect" but the fact remains that the driver
issue does exist makes it difficult for MS to simply include without
expecting problems caused by incorrect user assumptions.

Remember this debacle when users tried to configure it all themselves?

And I don't mean to insult anyone here, but when you are not used to
doing something a few times problems creep in and often attempts to
rectify one problem lead ti the creation of others.
 

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