2200 equivalent

[Alan Justice]

My Epson 2200 stopped working just as the warranty ran out. Epson replaced
it under warranty (refurbished, I assume), but it had problems. They
replaced it with one that did not work at all. The next replacement also
has some problems we are working on. I'm spending way too much time on
this, and am not optimistic that they will ever send me a working printer.

If I give up on Epson, what should I replace it with? I need high quality
glossies (for sale), archival, and at least 13x19". Besides suggestions, I
would also appreciate a web site that gives the comparisons and evaluations.
Thanks.

 

[Davy]

I know the feeling, my printers where at the opposite end of the
price scale, I was so sick of Epson clogging I was hell bent on
trying a Canon. I took the bait and got a ip5000 and over 4 months
now not one single clog nor manual head clean required to date.

The C62 clogged on the 4th day, it was exchanged somewhile later and
that clogged on the 4th day all with Epson ink, Epson would not
transfer the warranty, I believe now that it was a refurbished unit.

The ip5000 is far more economical, uses clear ink tanks and they'er
not chipped, I understand the newer ones are, I imagine you'll be
looking at the higher end printers, which I will leave for other
people to answer.

Davy

 

[Frank]

My Epson 2200 stopped working just as the warranty ran out. Epson replaced
it under warranty (refurbished, I assume), but it had problems. They
replaced it with one that did not work at all. The next replacement also
has some problems we are working on. I'm spending way too much time on
this, and am not optimistic that they will ever send me a working printer.

If I give up on Epson, what should I replace it with? I need high quality
glossies (for sale), archival, and at least 13x19". Besides suggestions, I
would also appreciate a web site that gives the comparisons and evaluations.
Thanks.

Sorry but even though I have a Canon i9900 for the purposes you state I
would recommend the new Espon 2400.
Frank

 

[Yianni]

The 2400 is the direct equivalent. The 1800 is also another choice.

 

[measekite]

CANON I9900 USING CANON OEM INK. FRAME IT UNDER GLASS

 

[measekite]

I know the feeling, my printers where at the opposite end of the
price scale, I was so sick of Epson clogging I was hell bent on
trying a Canon. I took the bait and got a ip5000 and over 4 months
now not one single clog nor manual head clean required to date.

I BELIEVE YOU ARE USING CANON OEM INK. IF NOT YOU CAN EXPECT A CLOG.

BESIDES TO GO 13X19 HE NEEDS AN I9900

 

[measekite]

Sorry but even though I have a Canon i9900 for the purposes you state
I would recommend the new Espon 2400.
Frank

DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM. THE I9900 CANON WITH CANON INK IS THE ONLY WAY TO
GO. PIGMENTED INK PRINTERS HAVE A GREATER TENDENCY TO CLOG THE HEAD
EVEN WITH OEM INK AND YOU CAN TOTALLY FORGET AFTERMARKET UNBRANDED
GENERIC INK.

 

[Frank]

The 2400 is the direct equivalent. The 1800 is also another choice.

The best prints will come from the Epson 2400 not the Canon i9900.
Frank

 

[frederick]

My Epson 2200 stopped working just as the warranty ran out. Epson replaced
it under warranty (refurbished, I assume), but it had problems. They
replaced it with one that did not work at all. The next replacement also
has some problems we are working on. I'm spending way too much time on
this, and am not optimistic that they will ever send me a working printer.

If I give up on Epson, what should I replace it with? I need high quality
glossies (for sale), archival, and at least 13x19". Besides suggestions, I
would also appreciate a web site that gives the comparisons and evaluations.
Thanks.

Reviews on Canon 9900 / 9950, HP 8750, Epson 1800/2400 A3+ printers are
here:
http://www.photo-i.co.uk/
The HP and Canon will provide archival quality - but on swellable
polymer papers - IMO not suitable for sale unframed. They will both
print nicely on "fast dry" papers, but the prints won't be archival.
Head clogging seems not to be much of an issue with the R1800/2400 using
OEM cartridges. Beware counterfeit cartridges - there is a thread on
that subject in the photo-i forums.

 

[Jon O'Brien]

If I give up on Epson, what should I replace it with?

Suggest you check back through the newsgroup for previous postings from
the poster with the stuck caps lock key. Then you can decide for yourself
whether or not to consider his advice.

Jon.

 

[measekite]

The best prints will come from the Epson 2400 not the Canon i9900.
Frank

The best prints will come from the Canon i9900. Editors choice PCMag.

Who are you going to trust?

 

[measekite]

Suggest you check back through the newsgroup for previous postings from
the poster with the stuck caps lock key. Then you can decide for yourself
whether or not to consider his advice.

Jon.

I WILL DO THAT

 

[Alan Justice]

Sorry but even though I have a Canon i9900 for the purposes you state I
would recommend the new Espon 2400.
Frank

Could you elaborate?

 

[Alan Justice]

DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM. THE I9900 CANON WITH CANON INK IS THE ONLY WAY TO
GO. PIGMENTED INK PRINTERS HAVE A GREATER TENDENCY TO CLOG THE HEAD
EVEN WITH OEM INK AND YOU CAN TOTALLY FORGET AFTERMARKET UNBRANDED
GENERIC INK.

Could you give me a reference to support that? Do you agree with
frederick's statement about the swellable polymer paper (??) being archival,
but not good for selling unmounted photos?

 

[Alan Justice]

Reviews on Canon 9900 / 9950, HP 8750, Epson 1800/2400 A3+ printers are
here:
http://www.photo-i.co.uk/
The HP and Canon will provide archival quality - but on swellable
polymer papers - IMO not suitable for sale unframed. They will both
print nicely on "fast dry" papers, but the prints won't be archival.
Head clogging seems not to be much of an issue with the R1800/2400 using
OEM cartridges. Beware counterfeit cartridges - there is a thread on
that subject in the photo-i forums.

Thanks for the link. I'll study it. What is "swellable polymer?" I do
sell some unmounted photos. All must be high quality and archival. I've
been using Epson Glossy Photo Paper with nice results. It sounds like you
think there is nothing as good as the Epson.

Epson is about to send me my 4th replacement printer. With a 1-day
warranty.

 

[Frank]

suggestions, I



Could you elaborate?

According to your posted needs.."I need high quality
glossies (for sale), archival, and at least 13x19"...I would recommend
the Epson R2400 over the Canon i9900 for your stated needs. The Canon
produces lovely prints albeit using dye based inks and only one black.
Not very good for black and white or shades of gray and not very good
for archival prints especially if you want to sell your work
professionally.
The Epson R2400 uses pigmented based inks which are the best for
archival prints and it has three different blacks and will produce
extremely life like black and whites and shades of gray.
So again, for your stated purposes, I would personally chose the Epson
over the Canon.
But it's your $'s your spending not mine.
Frank

 

[measekite]

suggestions, I



Could you elaborate?

DO NOT TRUST PEOPLE IN THIS NG. GOTO PCMAG AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THE
CANON I9900 WITH CANON OEM INK HAS BEEN THE EDITORS CHOICE SINCE THE
PRINTER WAS RELEASED.

 

[measekite]

Could you give me a reference to support that? Do you agree with
frederick's statement about the swellable polymer paper (??) being archival,
but not good for selling unmounted photos?

--
- Alan Justice

WWW.PCMAG.COM

WWW.PCWORLD.COM

 

[measekite]

According to your posted needs.."I need high quality
glossies (for sale), archival, and at least 13x19"...I would
recommend the Epson R2400 over the Canon i9900 for your stated needs.
The Canon produces lovely prints albeit using dye based inks and only
one black. Not very good for black and white or shades of gray and not
very good for archival prints especially if you want to sell your work
professionally.
The Epson R2400 uses pigmented based inks which are the best for
archival prints and it has three different blacks and will produce
extremely life like black and whites and shades of gray.
So again, for your stated purposes, I would personally chose the Epson
over the Canon.
But it's your $'s your spending not mine.
Frank

YEAH HE WOULD PERSONALLY CHOOSE EPSON BUT PUT HIS MONEY ON CANON.

HA HA HA HA HA HA

DO NOT LISTEN TO OUR RESIDENT TROLL. HE USES AFTERMARKET INK AND
ENDURES THE MESSY REFILL PROCESS. IF YOU WANT GOOD QUALITY GO WITH THE
EDITORS CHOICE WWW.PCMAG.COM AND WWW.PCWORLD.COM AND USE CANON OEM INK.

ALL OF THE PLACES THAT SELL GENERIC INK IN PREFILLED CARTS BUY THE TANKS
FROM SOMEPLACE OVER SEAS AND WILL NOT TELL YOU WHAT THEY FILL THEM
WITH. YOU WILL FIND MANY WEBSITE LABELERS SELLING THE SAME PROBLEM
STUFF UNDER DIFFERENT NAMES.

IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ME THAN GOOGLE INKJET INKS AND GOTO TO MANY SITES
AND SEE IF YOU CAN FIND BRANDED PREFILLED CARTS WHERE THEY WILL TELL YOU
WHO THE MFG/FORMULATOR IS. YOU WILL FIND THIS IS NOT DISCLOSED.

WORSE YET, THERE ARE MANY IN THIS NG GIVING PEOPLE LIKE YOU ADVICE WHO
ARE IN THE BUSINESS AND MAKING A LIVING FROM THIS. YOU WILL NEVER GET A
STRAIGHT ANSWER.

NOT EVERYING IN PCMAG IS THE GOSPEL BUT YOU CAN GET ENOUGH OUT OF THIS
TO MAKE A DECISION. THE CANON I9900 IS REALLY THAT GOOD. I HAVE SEEN
RESULTS FROM THIS PRINTER AT FRAME SHOP THAT WERE JUST GREAT.

 

[Frank]

According to your posted needs.."I need high quality
glossies (for sale), archival, and at least 13x19"...I would recommend
the Epson R2400 over the Canon i9900 for your stated needs. The Canon
produces lovely prints albeit using dye based inks and only one black.
Not very good for black and white or shades of gray and not very good
for archival prints especially if you want to sell your work
professionally.
The Epson R2400 uses pigmented based inks which are the best for
archival prints and it has three different blacks and will produce
extremely life like black and whites and shades of gray.
So again, for your stated purposes, I would personally chose the Epson
over the Canon.
But it's your $'s your spending not mine.
Frank

One other point Alan. I purchased my Canon i9900 over one year ago
before the Epson R2400 came out. Otherwise I would have opted for the
Epson had it been available. In fact, it will be my next wider format
printer. I would also like to get an Epson 4800 but out offices simply
don't have enough space for one. At least not until we move to larger
quarters as we are planning to do as we successfully expand out business.
Frank