10 Helpful Vista Beta Tips

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Guest

Being a newbie of admittedly severely limited mental capacity, but always
wanting the latest things, I love any beta release of anything. Here are
some tips that will help some people with their struggles to enjoy Vista Beta
2.

1. It is a Beta. If it worked perfectly, had all the drivers you need, and
so on and so forth, it wouldn’t be a Beta. The whole purpose of a Beta is so
that a group of people can TEST the software and find the problems. So when
you find a problem, that’s the whole point!

2. Search the forum and the internet for an answer or at least an existing
dialogue of your particular issue BEFORE posting a question. Andre and Zack
are extremely busy, answering redundant, redundant questions and commenting
on our inability to read. If they only have to deal with the same issue 300
times instead of 400 times, they will have more time to deal with your issue,
the one that is more important than any other.

3. If your hardware, the “Unobtanium Does Everything†thing won’t work, that
usually means that the Unobtanium Corporation hasn’t done their job to help
you. First see item 2. Then go to Unobtanium’s support sites. Microsoft
didn’t build the thing, and if they had the drivers, they would have included
them in the Beta to start with. Either that, or Microsoft is out to get you,
personally, and is doing this to you on purpose.

4. Will “Whizbang’s†software be compatible? Will it rain next Friday at
2:46pm? Who knows? Try it, and if it works, great, if it doesn’t, complain
to Whizbang. I never expected my Atari 2600 to run Coleco games, after all…

5. For this Beta, Windows Vista, do yourself a favour and do a clean
install. Empty partitions are great for this. Don’t have one? See item 2.
Don’t know what a partition is? See item 2. Don’t know how to make a new
partition? See item 2. Need software to make a partition? See item 2. Too
inept or scared to try to make a new partition? Well, the world needs
grocery baggers too, I suppose. You’ll be so much farther ahead without old
drivers and .dll’s cluttering up the install you will make your goofy
brother-in-law very jealous. The one with his dishwasher networked in to his
toaster-oven with Wi-Fi.

6. Back-up everything. Twice. Then back that up. Then install. Don’t
upgrade.

7. Don’t like Vista? “C:\ FORMATâ€. It’s the only way. You did back up all
you stuff, right?

8. Buy the DVD instead of downloading. It’s less than $20.00. You have
enough in change between the couch and your car ashtray. First of all, you
then have somebody to blame besides yourself if it doesn’t work. Second of
all, there’s a rumour that it has “bloopers†at the end for your enjoyment.

9. Just a thought, but if you lack the technical expertise to burn an .iso
to a DVD successfully, what makes you think you can load SATA drivers during
a botched install from a floppy you don’t have? And now you’ve overwritten
some of your existing operating system because you tried to upgrade instead
of doing a clean install. You did back up all your stuff, right?

10. If you find a bug, meaning something that doesn’t work, see item 1.
Then see item 2. Then report it to Microsoft. How? See item 2. Why? So
that Microsoft can address the issue, and so that you feel empowered, instead
of like a thirty-something social miss-fit who still lives with his mother.

Hope this helps!
 
G

Guest

Awesome tips.


Mark D. VandenBerg said:
Being a newbie of admittedly severely limited mental capacity, but always
wanting the latest things, I love any beta release of anything. Here are
some tips that will help some people with their struggles to enjoy Vista Beta
2.

1. It is a Beta. If it worked perfectly, had all the drivers you need, and
so on and so forth, it wouldn’t be a Beta. The whole purpose of a Beta is so
that a group of people can TEST the software and find the problems. So when
you find a problem, that’s the whole point!

2. Search the forum and the internet for an answer or at least an existing
dialogue of your particular issue BEFORE posting a question. Andre and Zack
are extremely busy, answering redundant, redundant questions and commenting
on our inability to read. If they only have to deal with the same issue 300
times instead of 400 times, they will have more time to deal with your issue,
the one that is more important than any other.

3. If your hardware, the “Unobtanium Does Everything†thing won’t work, that
usually means that the Unobtanium Corporation hasn’t done their job to help
you. First see item 2. Then go to Unobtanium’s support sites. Microsoft
didn’t build the thing, and if they had the drivers, they would have included
them in the Beta to start with. Either that, or Microsoft is out to get you,
personally, and is doing this to you on purpose.

4. Will “Whizbang’s†software be compatible? Will it rain next Friday at
2:46pm? Who knows? Try it, and if it works, great, if it doesn’t, complain
to Whizbang. I never expected my Atari 2600 to run Coleco games, after all…

5. For this Beta, Windows Vista, do yourself a favour and do a clean
install. Empty partitions are great for this. Don’t have one? See item 2.
Don’t know what a partition is? See item 2. Don’t know how to make a new
partition? See item 2. Need software to make a partition? See item 2. Too
inept or scared to try to make a new partition? Well, the world needs
grocery baggers too, I suppose. You’ll be so much farther ahead without old
drivers and .dll’s cluttering up the install you will make your goofy
brother-in-law very jealous. The one with his dishwasher networked in to his
toaster-oven with Wi-Fi.

6. Back-up everything. Twice. Then back that up. Then install. Don’t
upgrade.

7. Don’t like Vista? “C:\ FORMATâ€. It’s the only way. You did back up all
you stuff, right?

8. Buy the DVD instead of downloading. It’s less than $20.00. You have
enough in change between the couch and your car ashtray. First of all, you
then have somebody to blame besides yourself if it doesn’t work. Second of
all, there’s a rumour that it has “bloopers†at the end for your enjoyment.

9. Just a thought, but if you lack the technical expertise to burn an .iso
to a DVD successfully, what makes you think you can load SATA drivers during
a botched install from a floppy you don’t have? And now you’ve overwritten
some of your existing operating system because you tried to upgrade instead
of doing a clean install. You did back up all your stuff, right?

10. If you find a bug, meaning something that doesn’t work, see item 1.
Then see item 2. Then report it to Microsoft. How? See item 2. Why? So
that Microsoft can address the issue, and so that you feel empowered, instead
of like a thirty-something social miss-fit who still lives with his mother.

Hope this helps!
 
G

Guest

Duh !

What did Mark say?

I know, wait until a Viste PC turns up in the second hand shop, then buy it.

Right on Mark, Good one !
 
J

jonah

Well done Mark needed saying, keep posting it every other day and
maybe the people who really should not be messing with Betas may read
it before upgrading it their XP machines.

:cool:

Jonah
 
T

Thomas

BRAVO
jonah said:
Well done Mark needed saying, keep posting it every other day and
maybe the people who really should not be messing with Betas may read
it before upgrading it their XP machines.

:cool:

Jonah
 
G

Guest

Andre;

Feel free to blog it, digg it, edit it, and most importantly, direct people
to it as a reference.

Mark
 
D

Dustin Harper

You should name it "Common Sense Rules for running Anything in BETA
stage!"...

:) As a beta tester for a lot of software, most of these are just common
sense by now. A lot of people that are new to beta testing, and all the hype
of Vista, is making them do stupid things. They are bashing the software and
the little bugs they find (uh, it's beta! Report it!); they are upgrading XP
like it's a final version (without backing up, no less); they can't burn an
ISO (uh... if you can't use Google or Usenet to find out the answer:
probably shouldn't try a beta!).

Great bit of tips! :)
 
T

Todd

Entertaining but useful too...if anyone takes any notice.


The OP has some very good advice for people who are not doing ...
2. Search the forum and the internet for an answer or at least an
existing dialogue of your particular issue BEFORE posting a question.

and ...
3. If your hardware, the "Unobtanium Does Everything" thing won't
work, that usually means that the Unobtanium Corporation hasn't
done their job to help you. First see item 2. Then go to Unobtanium's
support sites

but for those who are not doing two and three there is very little chance
that they will see this.

Todd
 
G

Guest

Great tips :p

But how do you think ppl that cannot burn a .iso image and don't make
backups before they install know how to scrool up and read number 2. again? :p

and yes i did actually upgrade... had some trubles with the iso file from
start... but maybe i should make a clean install (when i have controled my
Wlan drivers work...)
 
T

The Dude

The title alone will ensure that it will be compeltely ignored by everyone
who it would really help.

Maybe if the title was "Enlarge your penis now and get $10 million from
Nigeria", it would guarantee they would at least open it.
 
B

Bones

ROFL..awsome post


Mark D. VandenBerg said:
Being a newbie of admittedly severely limited mental capacity, but always
wanting the latest things, I love any beta release of anything. Here are
some tips that will help some people with their struggles to enjoy Vista
Beta
2.

1. It is a Beta. If it worked perfectly, had all the drivers you need,
and
so on and so forth, it wouldn't be a Beta. The whole purpose of a Beta is
so
that a group of people can TEST the software and find the problems. So
when
you find a problem, that's the whole point!

2. Search the forum and the internet for an answer or at least an existing
dialogue of your particular issue BEFORE posting a question. Andre and
Zack
are extremely busy, answering redundant, redundant questions and
commenting
on our inability to read. If they only have to deal with the same issue
300
times instead of 400 times, they will have more time to deal with your
issue,
the one that is more important than any other.

3. If your hardware, the "Unobtanium Does Everything" thing won't work,
that
usually means that the Unobtanium Corporation hasn't done their job to
help
you. First see item 2. Then go to Unobtanium's support sites. Microsoft
didn't build the thing, and if they had the drivers, they would have
included
them in the Beta to start with. Either that, or Microsoft is out to get
you,
personally, and is doing this to you on purpose.

4. Will "Whizbang's" software be compatible? Will it rain next Friday at
2:46pm? Who knows? Try it, and if it works, great, if it doesn't,
complain
to Whizbang. I never expected my Atari 2600 to run Coleco games, after
all.

5. For this Beta, Windows Vista, do yourself a favour and do a clean
install. Empty partitions are great for this. Don't have one? See item
2.
Don't know what a partition is? See item 2. Don't know how to make a new
partition? See item 2. Need software to make a partition? See item 2.
Too
inept or scared to try to make a new partition? Well, the world needs
grocery baggers too, I suppose. You'll be so much farther ahead without
old
drivers and .dll's cluttering up the install you will make your goofy
brother-in-law very jealous. The one with his dishwasher networked in to
his
toaster-oven with Wi-Fi.

6. Back-up everything. Twice. Then back that up. Then install. Don't
upgrade.

7. Don't like Vista? "C:\ FORMAT". It's the only way. You did back up
all
you stuff, right?

8. Buy the DVD instead of downloading. It's less than $20.00. You have
enough in change between the couch and your car ashtray. First of all,
you
then have somebody to blame besides yourself if it doesn't work. Second
of
all, there's a rumour that it has "bloopers" at the end for your
enjoyment.

9. Just a thought, but if you lack the technical expertise to burn an .iso
to a DVD successfully, what makes you think you can load SATA drivers
during
a botched install from a floppy you don't have? And now you've
overwritten
some of your existing operating system because you tried to upgrade
instead
of doing a clean install. You did back up all your stuff, right?

10. If you find a bug, meaning something that doesn't work, see item 1.
Then see item 2. Then report it to Microsoft. How? See item 2. Why?
So
that Microsoft can address the issue, and so that you feel empowered,
instead
of like a thirty-something social miss-fit who still lives with his
mother.

Hope this helps!
 
J

Jane C

I've only just seen this one...brilliant, well done Mark ;o)

It's so good I've saved it for posterity ;)
 
G

Guest

You know...this was a good article and all, but it doesnt help the so called
NEWBIE when they get to the criticisms that this post has created. I've been
searching through these forums...reading lots about the x64 installation
problems to find some tips on my own "inability" to get the downloaded and
burned image to boot and I still havent found the correct tips.
I thought maybe this link to 10 helpful Vista tips my be what I'm looking
for...only to find a good article on what to do to help find problems on the
forums. Not much actual help with Vista itself, and a lot of criticizing
NEWBIE intellect, and reasons why they shouldnt be doing this sorta thing in
the first place.
Well...just wanted my 2 cents there..
Excuse me while I search the forum more for my Vista problem : )
 
G

Guest

How about before you beta test, learn to type, learn to talk, learn about
grammar, and then learn to do a CLEAN install! But I assume you have to wait
untill you have "controled my Wlan drivers work" which I assume means you
need to wait untill a driver for your Wi-Fi card, key, or whatever other crap
they are throwing Wi-Fi into now...

By the looks of it, you are one of those people that had to look up on
google what to do with an ISO file...

Well, enough bashing the small (and clearly simple) minded,
Pinky
P.S. Can someone put me in touch with Marks "goofy brother-in-law"? I want
to know how to network my toaster ;)
 

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