Zyxel wireless router

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Nil

That explains why I get help and things are fixed.

The reason you get help is that you have one superhumanly patient
fellow here who doesn't mind coaxing every little smidge of information
out of you, bit by grudging bit.

The reason you break things daily? I only have my suspicions.
 
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Andy

The reason you get help is that you have one superhumanly patient

fellow here who doesn't mind coaxing every little smidge of information

out of you, bit by grudging bit.



The reason you break things daily? I only have my suspicions.

I feel that you help others grudgingly.

Superhuman, maybe or he doesn't have a chip on his shoulder ?

Andy
 
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Nil

I feel that you help others grudgingly.

You feel wrong. I'm happy to help anyone as well as I can. I only ask
that they try to describe their problem as best they can, that they
provide as many pertinent details as they can, and that they answer
direct questions in full when asked. This is the way to ask for help
from anyone. Do you treat your doctor the way you treat people here?
"Oh, Doctor, I hurt." "Where do you hurt?" "There." "Where's 'there'?"
"Down there." Ad frustatum.

The fact that you consistently decline to make even the slightest
effort to help others help you tells me that you're either playing
games or incredibly lazy or you feel your time is more valuable than
others, or all of the above.
Superhuman, maybe or he doesn't have a chip on his shoulder ?

Or he's kind, smart, patient, and has a lot of time on his hands.
 
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Nil

Or more simply: he a Google Groupie (GG). Have you noticed any
similarities about the posting style and personas of GGs? I have.
They are generally clueless about UseNet, it's customs and traditions
and they are not interested in changing their attitude.

Of course, not all GGs are like that, but I believe most of them are.

I don't think it's a question of Google or of customs or traditions.
It's a matter of asking a well-formed, coherent technical question.
Everybody who has gone to school should know how to do it. You describe
your question precisely and fully, giving as many pertinent details as
you can. You describe what you've already done and what happened,
including any error messages verbatim. There some good essays on how to
ask a good technical question:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise

There are certain people who visit forums like this one who aren't
really here for technical assistance, they're here for attention. They
pose a question that's deliberately vague and unanswerable, forcing
people to play 20 questions to pry the details out. The original
poster's responses are usually incomplete or misleading. The whole
thing can drag out for days or weeks an issue that could have been
discussed and answered in hours, had they been upfront about
everything. But the answer isn't the point, of course - it's more about
prolonging the interaction.
 
J

JAS

There are certain people who visit forums like this one who aren't
really here for technical assistance, they're here for attention. They
pose a question that's deliberately vague and unanswerable, forcing
people to play 20 questions to pry the details out. The original
poster's responses are usually incomplete or misleading. The whole
thing can drag out for days or weeks an issue that could have been
discussed and answered in hours, had they been upfront about
everything. But the answer isn't the point, of course - it's more about
prolonging the interaction.
I think you have described it correctly. Just a troll wanting to create
attention.
 
N

Nil

Well, that's certainly a possibility. Nonetheless, I prefer to avoid
the aggravation of reading posts from Google Groupies. Not seeing
their top posting and multi-blank-lines quoting makes my day more
pleasant.

You do what you think you have to do. I think it's elitist and
ineffective, but go ahead. It's irrelevant to this example.
 
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Andy

On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:16:15 -0500, Nil


<[email protected]> Re Re: Zyxel wireless

router:







Well, that's certainly a possibility. Nonetheless, I prefer to avoid

the aggravation of reading posts from Google Groupies. Not seeing

their top posting and multi-blank-lines quoting makes my day more

pleasant.

Down to name calling ? :)

Fortunately, most people aren't looking for the negative.

Andy
 
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Andy

Experience ? No.



The instructions look pretty simple. If a little fuzzy.



1) Don't despair if the 418n "disappears". It's either at

192.168.1.1 or at 192.168.1.2. When you change modes,

the docs suggest the address will change after the

418n does a restart. Just change the address in your

browser and try again.



2) It seems to be claiming DHCP is disabled. If so, you'd

enter the WinXP networking thing, change from "Automatic"

for IP address, to manual, then enter something in what

you assume is the same subnet. Perhaps 192.168.1.3

would be good enough. I'm surprised DHCP from the

apartment router is not visible. Maybe they don't allow

that, to prevent you from getting "trapped on a

different subnet" or something.



3) You don't have to worry about automatic DNS setting, as

you're already using an opendns address for that. Your

control panel is likely already in manual mode for that.

(Or else your 418n was in router mode, and had the DNS

set manually to the OpenDNS address.)



This should be simple enough, it'll take "half a dozen

experiments, tops" :)



The reset button on a router, is your friend. If you really

foul things up, follow the reset procedure in the manual.

Some routers make this into a peculiar ceremony, with

precise timing, like "once you see the red light, continue

to press the RESET button for ten seconds". That sort of thing.

There should be a section somewhere in the manual, covering reset.



I've had to use reset a couple of times on my ADSL modem/router,

until I was satisfied with the bridged mode I put it in. It sits

on a different subnet now, so I can't access it from here. I have

to "re-cable" if I want to talk to it.



HTH,

Paul

I uploaded the manual here.

http://www.mediafire.com/view/2dlnc3tkgu6t7mc/NBG-418N_UG_v1_ed1.pdf

I managed to set it to universal repeater mode, but there is more to be done.

I can figure out what to do next.

I posted to zyxel forum, but have not heard back.

andy
 
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Ben Myers

Andy said:
The Zyxel wireless router is not working properly.
I would like to return the defective item.
I could not find your Customer Service info.
Best regards,
A K

Make sure the "DNS Client" service is running. If it isn't, start it, then go to
"Network Connections" and repair your Internet connection.

Ben
 
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Andy

A K



Make sure the "DNS Client" service is running. If it isn't, start it, then go to

"Network Connections" and repair your Internet connection.



Ben

thanks.

DNS Client is running and a repair did not help.

I am sending it back for a refund.

Andy
 
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Ben Myers

AAH said:
How Can it be checked that DNS Client service running?

Click "Start", "Run", type "cmd /k sc query dnscache" into the "Open" box and
click "OK". Status is on the "State" line.

Ben
 
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Ben Myers

AAH said:
Command
cmd /k sc query dnscache

It does not work message is:-

sc is not recognised as an internal or external command
or batch file.

Type "services.msc" into the "Open" box, find "DNS Client" and see if it is running.

Ben
 
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Ben Myers

AAH said:
Ben
Thanks for your tip.
It is not automatic but manually to start.
Why it is not automatic?

If it isn't running, try starting it manually and see if that makes a difference.
I am having a problems to connect BT Hub5 to my computer wirelessly
to interne? Via Ethernet cable is OK.

Try temporarily disabling the Ethernet connection.
BTHub5 or the Computer cannot pickup the right IP address in 192.168.1.?
series instead it pickup the IP address in 169.254.137.91 /
169.254.135.47
series which do not connect to internet. I am told that there is a setting
problem somewhere? I do not know much about it.
Could it be this DNS Client Services problems.
I shall be very grateful for any help?

If you are using some kind of encryption, like WPA, you might disable it until you get
the connection working. If none of this is helpful, please repost with more information,
including the manufacturer and model of the wireless device being used on the problem
computer.

Ben
 

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