XPE Remote Install Issue

[Guest]

Hey everyone, I have sort of unique problem

I have developed an image for a machine without any removeable media. Again, I stress this machine, does not have, nor will it ever have a floppy, cd, or usb boot option. I'm trying to deploy it from Remote install Services With Win2k Server and PXE Boot network card. I sucessfully loaded an basic XP Professional Image onto the computer using Remote Install Services (RIS)

Now I am trying to deploy the image for the first time with the SDI Manager that comes with the XPE development package

What I did to attempt this insall is follow the msdn instructions
1. Use a XP Disc (Service Pack 1) for RIS to make an initial install image
3. Navigate to that directory on the local machine (RIS Server)
2. Copy the I386, overwriting if necessary into the local image directory
3. Adding the minint option to the OS load options in the *.sif fil
4. Adding SDI Manager to the Sys32 folder

What Happens is, RIS Loads, and asks me to log in, which I do, followed by a "Please Wait Setup is Inspecting your System" After that it gives me a "Please Wait" with a Progress Bar, after the progress bar finishes. And I get the following blue screen..

"A problem has been detected and windows has be shut down to prevent damage to your computer
An initialization failure occured while attempting to boot from the networ

If this is your first time you've seen this screen......

It also mentions Disabling BIOS memory options, which I disabled BIOS caching and still no effect.

Does anyone know of anything I may have done/be doing wrong or anything to diagnose/fix this problem

Any help is greatly appreciated because I am completely lost....Thanks!

 

[Sean Liming \(eMVP\)]

Mark,

RIS is not used for Remote Booting of XPe. RIS is used for mass-deployment
of the XP OS to computers with harddrives on the network. XPe provides a
TFTP and Remote Boot service that is dedicated for XPe.

With Windows 2000 Server, you can only have one PXE provider on the network,
thus you need to unistall the RIS service on your server. I have been told
that Windows 2003 Server allows for both.

Regards,

Sean Liming
XP Embedded Manager
A7 Engineering (www.a7eng.com)
Author: Windows XP Embedded Advanced and Windows NT Embedded Step-by-Step

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Hey everyone, I have sort of unique problem.

I have developed an image for a machine without any removeable media.

Again, I stress this machine, does not have, nor will it ever have a floppy,
cd, or usb boot option. I'm trying to deploy it from Remote install
Services With Win2k Server and PXE Boot network card. I sucessfully loaded
an basic XP Professional Image onto the computer using Remote Install
Services (RIS).

Now I am trying to deploy the image for the first time with the SDI

Manager that comes with the XPE development package.

What I did to attempt this insall is follow the msdn instructions.
1. Use a XP Disc (Service Pack 1) for RIS to make an initial install image.
3. Navigate to that directory on the local machine (RIS Server).
2. Copy the I386, overwriting if necessary into the local image directory.
3. Adding the minint option to the OS load options in the *.sif file
4. Adding SDI Manager to the Sys32 folder.

What Happens is, RIS Loads, and asks me to log in, which I do, followed by

a "Please Wait Setup is Inspecting your System" After that it gives me a
"Please Wait" with a Progress Bar, after the progress bar finishes. And I
get the following blue screen...

 

[Guest]

Keep in mind that I said, Remote Install and Not Remote Boot, there is a difference because remote boot does not requite a persistant storage device such as a hard drive. As far as not being able to use RIS... What is this article referring to then

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...n-us/dnxpesp1/html/XPESP1_Build_Deploy_Img.as

The subheading that starts with "Placing a Bootable Version of WinPE on a RIS Server

All I'm trying to do is actually get the XPE OS on the local machine, using some kind of network connectivity, since I can't use a USB device, CDRom, floppy etc. The units hard disk drive is also completely stowed away in a mess of cable and etc so removing it is also not an option...

Thanks

 

[Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\)]

If you don't want to buy third party solutions, then you can:

Make RAM boot solution from SDI file located on your server. You can make
very small SDI ~30-40 MB with net support that will allow you to access
image file on your server and copy it.

This is only one possible solution based on XPe.

Regards,
Slobodan

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Keep in mind that I said, Remote Install and Not Remote Boot, there is a

difference because remote boot does not requite a persistant storage device
such as a hard drive. As far as not being able to use RIS... What is this
article referring to then?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnxpesp1/ht
ml/XPESP1_Build_Deploy_Img.asp

The subheading that starts with "Placing a Bootable Version of WinPE on a RIS Server"

All I'm trying to do is actually get the XPE OS on the local machine,

using some kind of network connectivity, since I can't use a USB device,
CDRom, floppy etc. The units hard disk drive is also completely stowed away
in a mess of cable and etc so removing it is also not an option....

 

[Guest]

Could you give me an example of how I could do this or a MS tech article. I'm no pro at doing this

You mentioned that this is onlyu one possible solutions.....could you give me 1 or two others?

 

[Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\)]

Hi Mark,

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnxpesp1/ht
ml/tchDeployingWindowsXPEmbeddedRemoteBoot.asp
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/remboot/htm
l/xpconRemoteBootOverview.asp

http://www.vci.com/products/network_centric/bxpinfo.asp

And you can always write your boot code that would read file trough TFTP and
write image directly to disk. This would be very low level solution.

Regards,
Slobodan

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Could you give me an example of how I could do this or a MS tech article. I'm no pro at doing this.

You mentioned that this is onlyu one possible solutions.....could you give

me 1 or two others?

 

[Sean Liming \(eMVP\)]

Mark,

A past NG post had mentioned some problems with RIS/WinPE approach, but I
don't think there was any resolution. Slobodan's approach will work. Just be
sure to add Windows Script Engines component in order to run SDIMGR. The
book Windows XP Embedded Advanced also covers XPe remote boot.

Is this Remote Install for the development phase of your project or the
manufacturing phase? The reason I ask (and I don't know your hardware) is
that your final system may not have floppy, CD-ROM ,etc. when you ship, but
do you have access to these devices during development? There is a 3rd party
tool called Remote Recover (www.winternals.com) which can run from a floppy
or be download via PXE. Remote Recover can be used to transfer the OS image
over Ethernet from host to target.

Regards,

Sean Liming
XP Embedded Manager
A7 Engineering (www.a7eng.com)
Author: Windows XP Embedded Advanced and Windows NT Embedded Step-by-Step

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[Guest]

Slobodan

How would I go about doing this..
"And you can always write your boot code that would read file trough TFTP an
write image directly to disk. This would be very low level solution.

I've run into errors or problems in everything on this issue.....All I want to do, is use something freeware or write something, that takes the image I have, and used PXE to copy it over to the local hard drive....formatting first of course...thats all I want...and I'm going nuts....do you have any resources on this

thanks!

 

[Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\)]

If you want to write something easy (not boot code solution).

Then create minimum XPe image that supports your HDD and network and put it
in SDI file for remote boot.
Also you will need to place some app that will allow you automatic
format/copy of files.

I don't have any link that describe this in details. If you want to do it
then you must do it on your own. Or you can buy some solution that offer you
this functionality.

Regards,
Slobodan

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Slobodan -

How would I go about doing this...
"And you can always write your boot code that would read file trough TFTP and
write image directly to disk. This would be very low level solution."

I've run into errors or problems in everything on this issue.....All I

want to do, is use something freeware or write something, that takes the
image I have, and used PXE to copy it over to the local hard
drive....formatting first of course...thats all I want...and I'm going
nuts....do you have any resources on this?