XP-Vista-System Restore

[BChat]

When dual booting XP/Vista does XP wipe out the Vista restore points:

A. if they are on separate HDs

B. if they are on the same HD, different partitions

C. all of the above

Thanks
BChat

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Of course not. Restore points reside within each individual
Windows operating system.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| When dual booting XP/Vista does XP wipe out the Vista restore points:
|
| A. if they are on separate HDs
|
| B. if they are on the same HD, different partitions
|
| C. all of the above
|
| Thanks
| BChat

 

[John Barnes]

The answer is C. The only choices at this point are to either use BitLocker
where available, or to hide the Vista partition BEFORE booting into XP using
a 3rd party boot manager.

 

[John C. Iliff]

C. all of the above...

I, too, have been following the discussions, and dual boot XP/Vista. I have
them on separate HDD's, and installed Vista from within XP, so that C: is
ONLY XP, and Vista stays on F: (in my case). Yesterday, I did some extensive
(?) testing...creating restore points in Vista, then rebooting and creating
points in XP, then rebooting, etc. I found the restore points in XP remained
unchanged (as advertised in the posts), and the restore points missing in
Vista (as advertised). The process was repeated more than once, and
everytime the restore points were missing from Vista. Soooo....I'll fall
back to my BootItNG, and hide Vista from XP. No need to hide XP from Vista.

John

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

I always turn-off System Restore (in Windows XP) for partitions or drives not running
Windows XP. I would suggest the same prior to installing Windows Vista.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| C. all of the above...
|
| I, too, have been following the discussions, and dual boot XP/Vista. I have
| them on separate HDD's, and installed Vista from within XP, so that C: is
| ONLY XP, and Vista stays on F: (in my case). Yesterday, I did some extensive
| (?) testing...creating restore points in Vista, then rebooting and creating
| points in XP, then rebooting, etc. I found the restore points in XP remained
| unchanged (as advertised in the posts), and the restore points missing in
| Vista (as advertised). The process was repeated more than once, and
| everytime the restore points were missing from Vista. Soooo....I'll fall
| back to my BootItNG, and hide Vista from XP. No need to hide XP from Vista.
|
| John
|
| | > When dual booting XP/Vista does XP wipe out the Vista restore points:
| > A. if they are on separate HDs
| > B. if they are on the same HD, different partitions
| > C. all of the above
| >
| > Thanks
| > BChat
|
|

 

[BChat]

I install Vista from within XP (C to a separate HD = D: in my case
---I'll be getting a full version of Ultimate---
turn off system restore in XP for all but C:
I never knew you could do this - I just did it
D:, an empty HD, is now not monitored by System Restore
Is VistaBootPRO still OK for booting software?
Thanks for the info, I love it when I learn something.
Come on January 30th!
BChat



I always turn-off System Restore (in Windows XP) for partitions or drives
not running
Windows XP. I would suggest the same prior to installing Windows Vista.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| C. all of the above...
|
| I, too, have been following the discussions, and dual boot XP/Vista. I
have
| them on separate HDD's, and installed Vista from within XP, so that C: is
| ONLY XP, and Vista stays on F: (in my case). Yesterday, I did some
extensive
| (?) testing...creating restore points in Vista, then rebooting and
creating
| points in XP, then rebooting, etc. I found the restore points in XP
remained
| unchanged (as advertised in the posts), and the restore points missing in
| Vista (as advertised). The process was repeated more than once, and
| everytime the restore points were missing from Vista. Soooo....I'll fall
| back to my BootItNG, and hide Vista from XP. No need to hide XP from
Vista.
|
| John
|
| | > When dual booting XP/Vista does XP wipe out the Vista restore points:
| > A. if they are on separate HDs
| > B. if they are on the same HD, different partitions
| > C. all of the above
| >
| > Thanks
| > BChat
|
|

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Carey, it now well known that the XP volsnap.sys will kill the Vista restore
points (and other shadow copies) at XP startup.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

It is.

Am I missing something? I was under the impression that this was a
well-known
scenario. Before I learned of this issue I had tried dual boot WinXP SP2 /
Vista RTM systems with both OS installations on separate partitions of
same
physical drive and on separate physical drives. Windows XP seeks and
destroys
restore points on Vista partitions. Thinks they're corrupted restore
points.
MS says no fix will be offered.

I'm sure I could be wrong about the MS stance on this, but I know what
happened to system restore under Vista on my dual boot systems.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

It won't help. XP will kill not only Vista's restore points but previous
versions and other backups. The issue is not dependent on System Restore.
SR is just one of the victim's. There is already a kb that mentions what to
do if SR in Vista fails to work after having booted "another operating
system."

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

VistaBoot Pro is an editor, not a manager.

 

[MICHAEL]

You need to do some catching up on the real issue.
For an MVP giving advice in a Vista support group, you
should know more on this than you have displayed.


-Michael

 

[Dennis Pack]

Colin:
I didn't remember trying Carey' solution. On my other system with
XP, XPx64 and Vista RC2, I turned off system restore in XP & x64, no change.
Also I tried turning off all partitions except the operating system
partition, no change. At this point there are only 2 options to dual boot
and retain restore points and other VSS data; 1 use BitLocker if available
or 2 use a third party boot manager to keep partitions separate.

 

[BChat]

Thanks - my error


VistaBoot Pro is an editor, not a manager.

 

[Synapse Syndrome]

I always turn-off System Restore (in Windows XP) for partitions or drives
not running
Windows XP. I would suggest the same prior to installing Windows Vista.

I've found this is not necessary in Vista, as it seems to only enable System
Restore on C: by default, as far as I have seen so far.

ss.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Those are the only two I know of also.

But then I just don't dual boot with XP except on the test box where I don't
do any valuable work anyway.

 

[Bert Kinney]

Dual Booting Windows Vista & Windows XP:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/dualboot.html

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org