XP SP3?

[ColTom2]

Hi:

Just wondering if any of you had downloaded and installed the new SP3. I
have heard so much good news about it that I would like to hear some first
hand comments.

Thanks

 

[BigJim]

don't think it has been officially released yet.

 

[Gordon]

Hi:

Just wondering if any of you had downloaded and installed the new SP3. I
have heard so much good news about it that I would like to hear some first
hand comments.

Thanks

It is STILL only available to the OFFICIAL beta testers. No-one here should
be discussing it, as I believe that the beta testers agree to an NDA before
becoming accepted. they also have their own private newsgroups for
discussing this. Anyone who is NOT an official beta tester has either got it
"illegally" or from a very dubious source.

 

[Gordon]

Hi:

Just wondering if any of you had downloaded and installed the new SP3. I
have heard so much good news about it that I would like to hear some first
hand comments.

Thanks

It is STILL only available to the OFFICIAL beta testers. No-one here should
be discussing it, as I believe that the beta testers agree to an NDA before
becoming accepted. they also have their own private newsgroups for
discussing this. Anyone who is NOT an official beta tester has either got it
"illegally" or from a very dubious source.

 

[Unknown]

Have YOU? Where do you think it's at?

 

[DL]

Only Beta released, I believe, supposedly 10% performance increase.
Therefore expect release date to follow Vista sp1

 

[Shenan Stanley]

It is STILL only available to the OFFICIAL beta testers. No-one
here should be discussing it, as I believe that the beta testers
agree to an NDA before becoming accepted. they also have their own
private newsgroups for discussing this. Anyone who is NOT an
official beta tester has either got it "illegally" or from a very
dubious source.

Incorrect.
SP3 RC1 has been released to Technet and MSDN subscribers as well.

 

[AJR]

Do people "pay" attention to posts?

As Shenan stated in his post - XP SP3 RC1 is the current release and was
made available to MSDN and TechNet subscribers.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Hi:

Just wondering if any of you had downloaded and installed the new SP3. I
have heard so much good news about it that I would like to hear some first
hand comments.

SP3 has not yet been released. It is expected some time early next
year.

It exists only in beta versions. It would be extremely foolhardy to
run a beta version of an operating system unless you have a spare
machine to try it on, are someone who enjoys playing with whatever is
newest, and wouldn't mind if you lost everything on your computer.

 

[LVTravel]

Please give DR a break. He posted the reply before Stanley posted his
response to Gordon.

On my system, your timestamp is 2:57 PM, DL's is 1:39 PM, Stanley's is 2:08
PM and Gordon's is 1:27 PM. I have many times posted identical information
to an OP that someone has also posted simply because of the delay in the
information getting processed through the newsgroup servers. As a matter of
fact the first post in response to the OP's 12:55 PM post was at 1:22 and
all original follow-up posts were in by 1:39 PM (except for Ken Blake's)
with two posts which were follow-ups at 2:08 (Stanley's) and 2:57 which was
yours.

 

[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

It is also available from MSDN and Tech-Net for subscribers, quite legal.

I'm testing on a computer as we speak.


: : > Hi:
: >
: > Just wondering if any of you had downloaded and installed the new SP3.
I
: > have heard so much good news about it that I would like to hear some
first
: > hand comments.
: >
: > Thanks
: >
: >
:
:
: It is STILL only available to the OFFICIAL beta testers. No-one here
should
: be discussing it, as I believe that the beta testers agree to an NDA
before
: becoming accepted. they also have their own private newsgroups for
: discussing this. Anyone who is NOT an official beta tester has either got
it
: "illegally" or from a very dubious source.
:
:

 

[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

Ken:

RC1 has been released to MSDN and TechNet.


: SP3 has not yet been released. It is expected some time early next
: year.
:
: It exists only in beta versions. It would be extremely foolhardy to
: run a beta version of an operating system unless you have a spare
: machine to try it on, are someone who enjoys playing with whatever is
: newest, and wouldn't mind if you lost everything on your computer.
:
: --
: Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
: Please Reply to the Newsgroup

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Ken:

RC1 has been released to MSDN and TechNet.

Yes, I know. But a Release Candidate is not a released version. It is
essentially a late-stage beta version, and is still very risky to use.

 

[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

: On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:16:16 -0600, "Tom [Pepper] Willett"
:
: > Ken:
: >
: > RC1 has been released to MSDN and TechNet.
:
:
: Yes, I know. But a Release Candidate is not a released version. It is
: essentially a late-stage beta version, and is still very risky to use.
:
:

The machine I'm running (testing) it on has had zero problems for several
day.

Tom

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

: On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:16:16 -0600, "Tom [Pepper] Willett"
:
: > Ken:
: >
: > RC1 has been released to MSDN and TechNet.
:
:
: Yes, I know. But a Release Candidate is not a released version. It is
: essentially a late-stage beta version, and is still very risky to use.
:
:

The machine I'm running (testing) it on has had zero problems for several
day.

Glad to hear it. But that does not make it safe it run, and proves
nothing. It's a still a test version, not a released one, and there is
always increased risk when you run a test version.

 

[Gerry]

Ken

Sometimes you can say the same with newly released software. Whether
it's beta or not makes no difference <G>!

The cricket coach would like you in the nets; straight bat to every ball
<EBG>!

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:16:16 -0600, "Tom [Pepper] Willett"

Ken:

RC1 has been released to MSDN and TechNet.


Yes, I know. But a Release Candidate is not a released version. It
is essentially a late-stage beta version, and is still very risky
to use.

The machine I'm running (testing) it on has had zero problems for
several day.

Glad to hear it. But that does not make it safe it run, and proves
nothing. It's a still a test version, not a released one, and there is
always increased risk when you run a test version.

 

[Stan Brown]

Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:41:39 -0700 from Ken Blake, MVP

Yes, I know. But a Release Candidate is not a released version. It is
essentially a late-stage beta version, and is still very risky to use.

Right -- because the released version won't have a whole lot of bugs.


Back when dinosaurs ruled the earth and I developed software, a beta
version was intended to be as bug free as possible, and a release was
supposed to be bug free. (It never was, but that was the goal, and we
took it seriously.) Nowadays the release seems like just another in
the series of betas -- hence the incessant stream of patches and
updates post release.

 

[Rick]

Hi:

Just wondering if any of you had downloaded and installed the new SP3. I
have heard so much good news about it that I would like to hear some first
hand comments.

Thanks

It has not yet been released. It will come out in 2008 and looks to be
very good with respect speeding up XP.

Rick

 

[Rick]

It is STILL only available to the OFFICIAL beta testers. No-one here should
be discussing it, as I believe that the beta testers agree to an NDA before
becoming accepted. they also have their own private newsgroups for
discussing this. Anyone who is NOT an official beta tester has either got it
"illegally" or from a very dubious source.

BS, it has been widely reported in the media expecially in regards to it
impact on Vista.

Rick

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Ken

Sometimes you can say the same with newly released software. Whether
it's beta or not makes no difference <G>!

I don't agree at all, Gerry. Yes. it's true that even released
software (and not just *recently* released software) can have serious
errors. But there's still a big difference between beta software and
released software. With released software, the manufacturer at least
thinks that there are no critical errors remaining, and it's safe to
use. With beta software, the manufacturer is normally aware that there
critical errors; if he thought there were none, he would release it,
rather than keeping it beta.

Note my last sentence, quoted below. I didn't say that there was risk
with beta software and no risk with released software; I said there
was "always *increased* risk when you run a test version."

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:16:16 -0600, "Tom [Pepper] Willett"

Ken:

RC1 has been released to MSDN and TechNet.


Yes, I know. But a Release Candidate is not a released version. It
is essentially a late-stage beta version, and is still very risky
to use.



The machine I'm running (testing) it on has had zero problems for
several day.

Glad to hear it. But that does not make it safe it run, and proves
nothing. It's a still a test version, not a released one, and there is
always increased risk when you run a test version.