XP sp2 firewall

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Max Wachtel

Is the firewall in XP any good?
Can it substitute for commercial versions?
-Pete
It blocks incoming only. You need to use a commercial one. There are
some good ones that have free versions for home use. I use Sygate
Personal Firewall along with Windows Firewall.
-max
 
M

Mat

Windows Firewall disables soon as you install commercial one.So your only
protected by Sygate Firewall and not both
 
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Max Wachtel

Mat said:
Windows Firewall disables soon as you install commercial one.So your only
protected by Sygate Firewall and not both

My(XP Pro)Windows Firewall says "on".
-max
 
M

Mat

Have a look under description if you havent already cause im using Free
Zonealarms and even though it says on underneath under description it means
zone alarms on windows sp2 firewall well it dont say anything about it
 
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

Max said:
My(XP Pro)Windows Firewall says "on".

Just came back from a client's location, where I networked a new XP
Pro machine and installed accounting software. He had already
installed ZoneAlarm Free.

On checking the Windows Security panel, and clicking on the Firewall
doodad, it plainly stated that the Windows ICF was disabled and
ZoneAlarm was in use. There didn't seem to be any option to run both,
though I looked for it, I may have missed it.
 
M

Max Wachtel

Mat said:
Have a look under description if you havent already cause im using Free
Zonealarms and even though it says on underneath under description it means
zone alarms on windows sp2 firewall well it dont say anything about it

In Control Panel/Security Center it says "At least one of the firewalls
is currently on.
In Control Panel/Windows Firewall it says " Windows Firewall is helping
protect your PC". Below that are 2 icons,one green checked "on" and the
red one is not checked.
If I turn Windows Firewall off- the text in Security Center changes to
"Sygate Personal Firewall is currently on"
So is Windows Firewall on when I turn it on or not?
-max
 
J

Juergen Nieveler

Max Wachtel said:
It blocks incoming only. You need to use a commercial one.

Any malware running on a PC can easily disable the "Personal Firewall"
- outbound protection only works if the malware writer doesn't care
about it.

Juergen Nieveler
 
K

kurt wismer

Juergen said:
Any malware running on a PC can easily disable the "Personal Firewall"
- outbound protection only works if the malware writer doesn't care
about it.

i can't speak for other software firewalls, but kerio will alert on
launching aswell as applications trying to make connections... so the
user would have to allow the malware to run in order for it to disable
the firewall...
 
J

Juergen Nieveler

kurt wismer said:
i can't speak for other software firewalls, but kerio will alert on
launching aswell as applications trying to make connections... so the
user would have to allow the malware to run in order for it to disable
the firewall...

99.9% of the malware out there needs the user to run it in the first
place... real network worms are pretty rare.

Juergen Nieveler
 
M

Mat

I always get maleware after a clean install of winxp installing nothing else
before hand other than spyware program Adaware
 
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

Mat said:
I always get maleware after a clean install of winxp installing
nothing else before hand other than spyware program Adaware

Next time you're going to reinstall Windows, download and save a
personal firewall first, then install it before .. before .. you ever
activate your internet connection.
 
D

Duane Arnold

I always get maleware after a clean install of winxp installing
nothing else before hand other than spyware program Adaware

Why don't you try turning on the XP FW/packet filter first the next time?

Duane :)
 
K

kurt wismer

Juergen said:
99.9% of the malware out there needs the user to run it in the first
place... real network worms are pretty rare.

sure, but how many of them are tricked by a program that looks more like
a jpg or an mp3 or something similar?

when a user is presented with a relatively clear warning that they are
attempting to execute a new unknown program then their suspicion is much
more likely to engage... usually the malware that's out there gets
executed because the distinction between running programs and opening
documents has become so blurred that when people are presented with some
'document' that they want to 'look at' they double-click without a
second thought that it might not be a 'document' at all... application
launch control can trigger that second thought...
 
D

Duane Arnold

I'll warn you now be prepared for the long and endless road with that
person. ;-)

Duane :)
 

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