XP PRODUCT KEY NUMBERS

[Guest]

Hello, i have a problem i would like to discuss about the xp product
activation , you see when you buy a xp home or other xp program disk you get
product key numbers,well if you use them a certain number of times ,such as
setting up xp on a few friends computers or doing a little work on a few
computers of your own, when you go to validate the install it says according
to their records the numbers of times you have used it has exceeded its
use,now thats b.s , even if you try your hard drive in another computer you
have to revalidate, well my thought is if i bought this xp disk and it is not
a illegal copy ,i should be able to use it as many times as i want to, it
kind of reminds me of some kind of a monopoly or some maybe some foreign
country may do to their citizens that may not have as many rights as us here
in the usa,may i ask what you think about this matter? thanks and take
care....MICHAEL FRIEZE.. P.S I also set up xp on computers i build and
give away to families that cant afford one, is it so wrong to set up the xp
operating system on these families and some friends that cant afford a xp
operating system disk? take for instance the windows 98 operating system disk
and its product key numbers ,it can be used hundreds if not thousands of
times over and over. sorry to vent of at you but maybe you could pass this
little note over mr gates way. thank you...

 

[Gordon]

Hello, i have a problem i would like to discuss about the xp product
activation , you see when you buy a xp home or other xp program disk you
get product key numbers,well if you use them a certain number of times
,such as setting up xp on a few friends computers or doing a little work
on a few computers of your own, when you go to validate the install it
says according
to their records the numbers of times you have used it has exceeded its
use,now thats b.s , even if you try your hard drive in another computer
you have to revalidate,

this has to be a troll, right?

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

MICHAEL FRIEZE

You're a moron, Michael

 

[Alias]

Hello, i have a problem i would like to discuss about the xp product
activation , you see when you buy a xp home or other xp program disk you get
product key numbers,well if you use them a certain number of times ,such as
setting up xp on a few friends computers or doing a little work on a few
computers of your own, when you go to validate the install it says according
to their records the numbers of times you have used it has exceeded its
use,now thats b.s , even if you try your hard drive in another computer you
have to revalidate, well my thought is if i bought this xp disk and it is not
a illegal copy ,i should be able to use it as many times as i want to, it
kind of reminds me of some kind of a monopoly or some maybe some foreign
country may do to their citizens that may not have as many rights as us here
in the usa,may i ask what you think about this matter? thanks and take
care....MICHAEL FRIEZE.. P.S I also set up xp on computers i build and
give away to families that cant afford one, is it so wrong to set up the xp
operating system on these families and some friends that cant afford a xp
operating system disk? take for instance the windows 98 operating system disk
and its product key numbers ,it can be used hundreds if not thousands of
times over and over. sorry to vent of at you but maybe you could pass this
little note over mr gates way. thank you...

It was true with 98 but the activation was done to ensure that you only
install XP on one computer, not many.

If you want to help poor people, put Ubuntu on their machines. It's free
and can be installed on as many computers as your little heart desires.
Get the free CD at www.ubuntu.com/ They will even pay the postage to
send it to you.

Alias

 

[Alias]

this has to be a troll, right?

Why do you assume that? These are questions that anyone could have. Why
do you have to knee-jerk react with an insult?

Alias

 

[Alias]

You're a moron, Michael

Wow, that was really helpful.

Alias

 

[Gordon]

Why do you assume that? These are questions that anyone could have. Why
do you have to knee-jerk react with an insult?

Alias

because the OP must be either living under a rock, or a troll. read the post
again - he's talking about installing ONE copy of XP on MANY machines and
wondering why he can't activate....

 

[Alias]

because the OP must be either living under a rock, or a troll. read the post
again - he's talking about installing ONE copy of XP on MANY machines and
wondering why he can't activate....

I did read it. Not everyone knows the new MS rules and most people don't
even know that news groups even exist. Being as you could do it with 98,
it's not a leap in logic to think that you can do it with XP.

Alias

 

[Gordon]

Alias wrote:

I did read it. Not everyone knows the new MS rules

Product Activation has been in force since 2001 - by IT standards that's
prehistoric....

and in anycase, the OP wasn't asking WHY he couldn't activate, it was just a
general rant about the fact that MS wouldn't let him...

 

[Noncompliant]

Hello, i have a problem i would like to discuss about the xp product
activation , you see when you buy a xp home or other xp program disk you
get
product key numbers,well if you use them a certain number of times ,such
as
setting up xp on a few friends computers or doing a little work on a few
computers of your own, when you go to validate the install it says
according
to their records the numbers of times you have used it has exceeded its
use,now thats b.s , even if you try your hard drive in another computer
you
have to revalidate, well my thought is if i bought this xp disk and it is
not
a illegal copy ,i should be able to use it as many times as i want to, it
kind of reminds me of some kind of a monopoly or some maybe some foreign
country may do to their citizens that may not have as many rights as us
here
in the usa,may i ask what you think about this matter? thanks and take
care....MICHAEL FRIEZE.. P.S I also set up xp on computers i build
and
give away to families that cant afford one, is it so wrong to set up the
xp
operating system on these families and some friends that cant afford a xp
operating system disk? take for instance the windows 98 operating system
disk
and its product key numbers ,it can be used hundreds if not thousands of
times over and over. sorry to vent of at you but maybe you could pass this
little note over mr gates way. thank you...

Since you have experience installing XP and windows 98 operating systems,
then you know the biggest difference is lack of activation in 98 version.
So, the key is validation in the answer to your post.

Have you investigated why validation is a requirement for XP?

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

Wow, that was really helpful.

Morons are beyond help.

 

[XS11E]

well my thought is if i bought this xp disk and it is not a
illegal copy ,i should be able to use it as many times as i want
to,

You didn't buy an XP disk, you bought a license to use the software
under terms and conditions explained in the End Users License
Agreement (EULA).

I also set up xp on computers i build and give away to families
that cant afford one, is it so wrong to set up the xp operating
system on these families and some friends that cant afford a xp
operating system disk?

Yes, it's called stealing.

take for instance the windows 98 operating system disk and its
product key numbers ,it can be used hundreds if not thousands of
times over and over.

Not legally it can't, read the EULA that you agreed to when you
installed the software.

 

[Alias]

You didn't buy an XP disk, you bought a license to use the software
under terms and conditions explained in the End Users License
Agreement (EULA).


Yes, it's called stealing.

No, it's called copyright infringement and breaching the EULA, a civil
offense. Stealing, be it petty larceny or grand larceny is a crime which
would apply if the OP waltzed into a store and *stole* a copy of XP.

Not legally it can't, read the EULA that you agreed to when you
installed the software.

If and when MS takes someone to court and the court declares it to be
illegal, it will be illegal, not because you or Microsoft say so! The
reason MS won't do that is because they're scared sh*tless of losing due
to fair use.

Alias

 

[DL]

Whether its a civil offence or a criminal offence depends somewhat on your
location
Win9* also had a single user license, its just that there was no method of
enforceing it

 

[Alias]

Whether its a civil offence or a criminal offence depends somewhat on your
location

Where is it a criminal offense?

Win9* also had a single user license, its just that there was no method of
enforceing it

I know. Unfortunately for MS, "enforcing" it will only lead people to go
for a Mac or Linux. What it won't do is catch one single real pirate.
Not one. What it *does* do is inconvenience paying customers and accuses
them of being a copyright infringer until they prove otherwise.

Alias

 

[Andy Bonanno]

I know. Unfortunately for MS, "enforcing" it will only lead people to go
for a Mac or Linux. What it won't do is catch one single real pirate. Not
one. What it *does* do is inconvenience paying customers and accuses them
of being a copyright infringer until they prove otherwise.

Alias

Proving otherwise is exactly what Michael just did. He admitted in a public
forum to copyright infringement, digital piracy, and fraud. He cannot use
the software contained on that disk on more than one computer but he can
reuse the disk thousands of times. Yes he bought a disk, he can use the
disk as many times as he wants, as a coaster or a decorative object (oooooh,
it's so shiny and has all those little holograms on it). We all know that
if he's stealing Windows and admitting to it, then Windows isn't the only
software his friends and family are getting for free.

Incidentally, since they are using the software, they are also guilty of
piracy, copyright infringement, and digital piracy. This is not a single
user problem, it is a crime ring. OEM versions of Windows can be gotten for
$35 and still be legal. If he can afford to give away computers, he can
afford OEM software.

 

[DL]

Depending on the specific circumstance its a criminal offence in EU
ie if a sys builder was installing the same or hacked versions into multiple
sys, then he/she could face a criminal charge. I would'nt be surprised if it
was similar in the US

 

[Rock]

Hello, i have a problem i would like to discuss about the xp product
activation , you see when you buy a xp home or other xp program disk you
get
product key numbers,well if you use them a certain number of times ,such
as
setting up xp on a few friends computers or doing a little work on a few
computers of your own, when you go to validate the install it says
according
to their records the numbers of times you have used it has exceeded its
use,now thats b.s , even if you try your hard drive in another computer
you
have to revalidate, well my thought is if i bought this xp disk and it is
not
a illegal copy ,i should be able to use it as many times as i want to, it
kind of reminds me of some kind of a monopoly or some maybe some foreign
country may do to their citizens that may not have as many rights as us
here
in the usa,may i ask what you think about this matter? thanks and take
care....MICHAEL FRIEZE.. P.S I also set up xp on computers i build
and
give away to families that cant afford one, is it so wrong to set up the
xp
operating system on these families and some friends that cant afford a xp
operating system disk? take for instance the windows 98 operating system
disk
and its product key numbers ,it can be used hundreds if not thousands of
times over and over. sorry to vent of at you but maybe you could pass this
little note over mr gates way. thank you...

One license per installation. That's the rule. Been that way since win31.
Using the same product key on more than one installation at one time is a
violation of the license. You aren't serious in your post are you?

 

[Alias]

Depending on the specific circumstance its a criminal offence in EU
ie if a sys builder was installing the same or hacked versions into multiple
sys, then he/she could face a criminal charge. I would'nt be surprised if it
was similar in the US

Doing it for profit opens up an entirely different scenario. I was
talking about not doing it for profit but under the fair use guidelines.
Recently, in Spain, a judge ruled that downloading music/software/videos
for personal use is not a crime and Spain is a member of the EU.

Alias

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

Doing it for profit opens up an entirely different scenario. I was
talking about not doing it for profit but under the fair use guidelines.
Recently, in Spain, a judge ruled that downloading music/software/videos
for personal use is not a crime and Spain is a member of the EU.

Your usefulness here has now been downgraded to "WTM" (worse than
mine).

Buh-by Bozo