XP Pro user perms

[Brian Bergin]

I installed the 16 Feb 05 update on my daughter's PC and every time
she logs in it whines that IE's settings are being updated to her
personal page, www.nickjr.com, from the default, something like
www.dell4me.com. She has no rights other than general "user" rights.
I've told it a dozen times to remember the option I've picked and it
seems to forget every time. Are there some permissions I need to give
her in the registry so it can remember?

BTW, I took a brand new XP Pro SP2 Dell system at work and created a
user account with "user" perms (they are both members of a 2k AD
Domain, even at home) and the same thing happens.

If MS Antispyware is going to be out there it has to have a way to
work with restricted accounts that don't have full registry access.
BTW, SpyBot's TeaTimer is able to work with her account, but I have it
disabed right now while we test MS's product.

 

[plun]

I installed the 16 Feb 05 update on my daughter's PC and every time
she logs in it whines that IE's settings are being updated to her
personal page, www.nickjr.com, from the default, something like
www.dell4me.com. She has no rights other than general "user" rights.
I've told it a dozen times to remember the option I've picked and it
seems to forget every time. Are there some permissions I need to give
her in the registry so it can remember?

What can you see within MSAS - Advanced tools - Browser
restore ?

On right you also have "Change restore settings to a new URL".

I also thinks that this settings memory seems to forget
sometimes.

 

[Andre Da Costa]

There was article about MSAS hi-jacking browser settings, until now, I have
not come across a clear cut solution to restoring the appropriate browser
homepage settings.

But I do know, AntiSpyware does not include support for limited and multiple
user account and is recommended running as an Administrator. I personally
have had experiences where AntiSpyware scanned and cleaned my account of
Spyware but forgot about my fathers account that was a thriving farm for
spyware.

If someone could offer a clear cut solution about what you should do when
MSAS hijacks the browser, we all would much appreciate it until beta 2
arrives.

 

[Guest]

Microsoft Antispyware does not support Limited Account
right now, but i'm hoping it would support Limited
Account when they release beta 2 or the final version.

 

[Brian Bergin]

But I do know, AntiSpyware does not include support for limited and multiple
user account and is recommended running as an Administrator. I personally
have had experiences where AntiSpyware scanned and cleaned my account of
Spyware but forgot about my fathers account that was a thriving farm for
spyware.

Then it's a totally useless too for home users where each family
member has their own accounts. IMHO, if it doesn't support multiple
accounts or limited accout rights then MS should pull it from testing
all together, it's a waste of everyone's time. SpyBot is a far
superior product and works with 1 or 100 users on the same system. I
know I'm done with MSAS.

 

[Brian Bergin]

Microsoft Antispyware does not support Limited Account
right now, but i'm hoping it would support Limited
Account when they release beta 2 or the final version.

I have 14 years of beta experience with MS and can tell you MS rarely
adds features after it goes to beta. My bet is if it doesn't support
limited rights users now it won't unitl the come out with Version 2.0.
It's unfortuante that MS is aiming this toward the home user (hence
their statements that they'll release a business version later on)
that they TOTALLY forgot and overlooked the fact that home PCs often
have accounts for 2 parents and muliple children. A HUGE oversight if
you ask me. I'm going back to SpyBot (in combination with
Javacoolsoftware's SpywareBlaster) and Ad-Aware SE, all of which FULLY
support multiple users and users with restricted rights.

Note to MS: Your own Designed for Windows logo requires almost all
apps function properly under multiple accounts with multiple rights.
This, IMHO, doesn't count as an administrator-only app nor does it
count as a game so I guess you'll be releasing this without your own
logo (or do you get special exemptions to bypass your own rules?).

 

[Andre Da Costa]

True, but Microsoft made an exception with Windows XP SP2 and added features
when Service Packs were only known as bug fixes, so things can change.

 

[Brian Bergin]

True, but Microsoft made an exception with Windows XP SP2 and added features
when Service Packs were only known as bug fixes, so things can change.

Not quite what I said. MS has often added features in SPs. What I
said was one a MS product goes to beta no features are added at that
point. In fact, MS has removed features from betas that were found
too hard to fix, but the chances of MS adding the necessary and Logo
required features of supporting multiple users and users with
restricted rights isn't likely to happen unless we all yell and
scream. Perhaps this is a way to keep DOJ and the EU off their back
when they put this out there for free and take $ away from vendors who
charge for antispyware products. MS can say 'hey, or software really
doesn't work for many people, doesn't work for families, and as such
doesn't compete with the real products out there, we just needed to
say we were doing something about all the junk we allow to be
installed by defaut in our OS'

 

[Andre Da Costa]

Well, its a number one problem with the lack of support for limited and
multiple account scanning, so I think the AntiSpyware Team is listening, and
of course Microsoft must would like make good impression on the first
release.

 

[Bill Sanderson]

Brian, the first beta was released less than a month after the purchase of
existing technology from a third party. I think it is unlikely that the
third-party product was logo'd.

I don't disagree with your assessment of the current state of the product,
but there will be a much larger than usual change delta during this beta I
suspect.

Microsoft has stated that they are aware of a range of issues involving
administrator versus limited users, and multiple users on the same machine,
and I'm sure these will be addressed.

Stay tuned.