XP Pro to Win 98

[Jason]

I have a machine and was told that the software I want to
run on it was compatible with Windows XP Pro. It turns
out that it is not so I have to go to windows 98. The
company supplying the software have told me that as I own
a licence for XP pro on that pc I am allowed to install
win 98 without worrying about buying a licence for it.

Is this true?

Cheers

Jason

 

[Tim Anderson]

I have a machine and was told that the software I want to
run on it was compatible with Windows XP Pro. It turns
out that it is not so I have to go to windows 98. The
company supplying the software have told me that as I own
a licence for XP pro on that pc I am allowed to install
win 98 without worrying about buying a licence for it.

Is this true?

This kind of downgrade option is common with application software, but I'm
less sure about Windows. The simple answer is to check the EULA (End User
License Agreement) that came with your Windows XP. It strikes me as
unlikely. The majority of Windows XP licenses are either OEM (supplied
pre-installed) or upgrade; in neither case would the license cover you for
Windows 98.

The software would have to be very special to persuade me to downgrade a
machine to Win98. You might like to consider an alternative, which is
Virtual PC. This emulates a PC but runs under Windows XP. You can then run
Windows 98 in Virtual PC. However, Windows 98 will still need a license in
this scenario.

Tim
Can Windows culture be changed?
http://www.itwriting.com/blog/?postid=68

 

[Ben]

Jason æ到:

I have a machine and was told that the software I want to
run on it was compatible with Windows XP Pro. It turns
out that it is not so I have to go to windows 98. The
company supplying the software have told me that as I own
a licence for XP pro on that pc I am allowed to install
win 98 without worrying about buying a licence for it.

Is this true?

Cheers

Jason

Hee Hee, where is your w98 come from.

 

[Dick Kistler]

This kind of downgrade option is common with application software, but I'm
less sure about Windows. The simple answer is to check the EULA (End User
License Agreement) that came with your Windows XP. It strikes me as
unlikely. The majority of Windows XP licenses are either OEM (supplied
pre-installed) or upgrade; in neither case would the license cover you for
Windows 98.

The software would have to be very special to persuade me to downgrade a
machine to Win98. You might like to consider an alternative, which is
Virtual PC. This emulates a PC but runs under Windows XP. You can then run
Windows 98 in Virtual PC. However, Windows 98 will still need a license in
this scenario.

I think it would depend on the situation. If the XP Pro license came from an
upgrade of a version of Windows 98, I am sure you could install the version
of
98 you already have legally, if you blew away the XP install. If the XP
license
is a new license for XP, probably not, since you
don't have a legal disk of 98 and couldn't get one without buying it.

In any case, you would have to blow away your XP install and install the
version of 98 that you have. There is no way to downgrade without a
completely
new install.

Yes, the software would have to be very special. Recall that Windows 98,
98SE,
and ME are just barely supported by Microsoft. If it is unavoidable, I would
consider a dual boot system with Windows XP and Windows 98(or one of the
others). You would normally run WinXP and only run 98 when you ran this
special application.

I would also try to get in touch with other users of the application to see
if there
is a workaround. Also, I would explore other, similar apps that run on XP.
Running
Legacy applications on new installations is not a good practice unless there
is
no other way.

Dick Kistler

 

[Dick Kistler]

I think it would depend on the situation. If the XP Pro license came from
an
upgrade of a version of Windows 98, I am sure you could install the
version of
98 you already have legally, if you blew away the XP install. If the XP
license
is a new license for XP, probably not, since you
don't have a legal disk of 98 and couldn't get one without buying it.

In any case, you would have to blow away your XP install and install the
version of 98 that you have. There is no way to downgrade without a
completely
new install.

Yes, the software would have to be very special. Recall that Windows 98,
98SE,
and ME are just barely supported by Microsoft. If it is unavoidable, I
would
consider a dual boot system with Windows XP and Windows 98(or one of the
others). You would normally run WinXP and only run 98 when you ran this
special application.

I would also try to get in touch with other users of the application to
see if there
is a workaround. Also, I would explore other, similar apps that run on XP.
Running
Legacy applications on new installations is not a good practice unless
there is
no other way.

Dick Kistler

Later, Microsoft offers the Application Compatibility Toolkit:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/compatible/appcompat.mspx

This set of programs is used to allow Legacy(Windows 95, 98, 98SE, ME, NT,
etc.)
applications to run on Windows XP. You should quiz your software vendor to
see if they
used this toolpack. If not, there is some possibility that the application
could be
made to run on XP with the tools here. Not really a job for novices, though.

Dick Kistler

 

[Tim Anderson]

I think it would depend on the situation. If the XP Pro license came from
an
upgrade of a version of Windows 98, I am sure you could install the
version of 98 you already have legally, if you blew away the XP install.

For sure, but in this case it would not be the Windows XP license that
granted the right to use Win 98

Tim

Can Windows culture be changed?
http://www.itwriting.com/blog/?postid=68

 

[Dick Kistler]

For sure, but in this case it would not be the Windows XP license that
granted the right to use Win 98

Tim

Yes, of course, but the OP may not know that, and we don't know
the history of the XP machine.

Dick

 

[The Prophecy]

I have a machine and was told that the software I want to
run on it was compatible with Windows XP Pro. It turns
out that it is not so I have to go to windows 98. The
company supplying the software have told me that as I own
a licence for XP pro on that pc I am allowed to install
win 98 without worrying about buying a licence for it.

Is this true?

Cheers

Jason

Try installing the program in question, and then going in to the program's
install folder and right click on the program's main exe file and select
Properties. Go to the Compatibility tab. Check the box "Run this program in
compatibility mode for:" and then in the drop down menu below it, select
"Windows 98/Windows ME".

Now try running the program and see if it works.

 

[Ron Martell]

This kind of downgrade option is common with application software, but I'm
less sure about Windows. The simple answer is to check the EULA (End User
License Agreement) that came with your Windows XP. It strikes me as
unlikely. The majority of Windows XP licenses are either OEM (supplied
pre-installed) or upgrade; in neither case would the license cover you for
Windows 98.

Not quite correct. The generic OEM version of Windows XP Pro, which
is the one supplied by Microsoft to the smaller OEMs in particular,
does include downgrade rights to earlier versions of Windows,
including Windows 98 Second Edition but not Windows 98 Original

http://download.microsoft.com/downl...4d-4a6d-aed9-f2c1f8f23e14/downgrade_chart.doc

The following is an excerpt from that document:

"Rights to OEM versions of systems software are granted in the OEM
EULA. The OEM EULAs for most OEM versions of systems software do not
grant downgrade rights. The exception is that the OEM EULA for
Microsoft Windowsâ XP Professional grants downgrade rights. See the
full text of the OEM EULA for the specific downgrade rights. "


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."

 

[Dick Kistler]

Not quite correct. The generic OEM version of Windows XP Pro, which
is the one supplied by Microsoft to the smaller OEMs in particular,
does include downgrade rights to earlier versions of Windows,
including Windows 98 Second Edition but not Windows 98 Original

So if I have a computer with a qualifying copy of XP Pro on it, I can take
my buddy's CD of 98SE or ME and do a clean install? What product code
do I enter?

Dick Kistler

 

[NobodyMan]

In any case, you would have to blow away your XP install and install the
version of 98 that you have. There is no way to downgrade without a
completely
new install.

Not completely true. If, duing an upgrade from 98 to Win XP (home or
Pro, I've done both), you choose to back up the old OS files in case
you change your mind, then you can go back into XP setup and in
essence remove XP and go back to the old OS without a complete
reformat - and all the old data is there.

Of course nothing is ever guaranteed. There is always possible to
experience data loss - but this usually works. The big IF is if the
option was taken during the XP upgrade. If not, then there is no
simple way to go back without complete data loss on the drive.

 

[Ron Martell]

So if I have a computer with a qualifying copy of XP Pro on it, I can take
my buddy's CD of 98SE or ME and do a clean install? What product code
do I enter?

Dick Kistler

You use the product key for the version that you are installing.

Remember that you are using your OEM license for this install and
therefore you cannot also have the OEM XP installed.

Your OEM license is still only good for a single install. All the
downgrade rights give you is a choice of versions that you can
install.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."

 

[Jason]

-----Original Message-----
I have a machine and was told that the software I want to
run on it was compatible with Windows XP Pro. It turns
out that it is not so I have to go to windows 98. The
company supplying the software have told me that as I own
a licence for XP pro on that pc I am allowed to install
win 98 without worrying about buying a licence for it.

Is this true?

Cheers

Jason
.

Thanks for all your help guys

 

[Ben]

Jason æ到:

Thanks for all your help guys

Nobody sell w98 now, so if you must do it, just do it.