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J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <[email protected]>, Mayayana
Open Internet Explorer -> Tools -> Internet
Options. Delete all cache (stored files) and
set the cache limit small -- maybe 50 MB.
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Not saying you aren't right, but:
1. Does this still make a difference for non-IE-users?
2. Even for IE users, _why_ does it make a difference? I'd have thought
if anything things being in the cache ought to speed things up (that's
what it's for!), and anyway it'd only make a difference to web browsing.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

What is the point of a really good degree, if you're just like Harold Wilson?
That really cut me down to size. - Sister Wendy Becket, on DIDs 2012-12-16
(She, like he, got one of the best degrees at Oxford in her year.)
 
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Mayayana

| 1. Does this still make a difference for non-IE-users?

See my post below the one you responded to. I've
run into it numerous times. And it's easy enough just
to set a small IE cache size. (Maybe 5 MB instead of
1 GB.)

| if anything things being in the cache ought to speed things up (that's
| what it's for!), and anyway it'd only make a difference to web browsing.

It could speed things up for browsing, though
it's really outdated for that purpose because
1) even bloated websites now load almost
instantly and 2) most commercial sites load
dynamically, so the cache doesn't apply. (My
own site uses PHP to dynamically create the
page based on the browser. As a result it's
always seen by browsers as a new page, even
if they just visited 2 minutes ago, so the cache
is never used.)
 
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Gene Wirchenko

[snip]
Now what kind of idiot writes software like that ?
Probably the same idiots who write these tv commercials that say "If
you've sufferred a stroke, heart attack, or death, call this number
800-xxx-xxxx so we can file a lawsuit". I'm still trying to figure out
how a dead person can make a phone call .....

If a relative dies, you could be considered to have suffered a
death.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
 
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Daave

KenK said:
No, I rely on Kaspersky.


About 75% free.


True in my case.


Will have to research that soon using your links. I suspect not.

It's possible you have malware. Kaspersky is good, but you should always
run other scans. MBAM is one of the best programs out there for this,
and the version I recommend is their free one. Also you don't need to
worry about it always running in the background; you merely run it on
demand.

Regarding RAM, I think you should give us all those figures referred to
above: Total, Limit, and Peak. I say this because although 512 MB might
prove to be enough RAM, there is a chance that it isn't.

Please tell us the specs of your system:

Make and model of PC should do it. If this was built, we will need to
know the make and model of the motherboard for its specs.

Finally, go into Task Manager again and figure out which processes are
using more than their fair share of resources:

Ctrl+Alt+Delete | Processes Tab

You can sort by CPU and Mem Usage. We need to know which ones are
showing high numbers.
 
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Daave

KenK said:
When I run msconfig>startup in XP I see a lot of stuff I don't
recognize. Is there a utility to help analyze these or do I need to
Google each of them?

My computer is getting VERY slow.

Thought of something else:

Open Task Manager and select the Performance tab the next time your PC
is slow. What does your CPU Usage show? Sometimes if this number is high
(and if there is no malware or leftover bits of Norton or McAfee), the
culprit is Windows itself -- sometimes Search 4.0 (which is horrendous;
I always recommend removing this update) and sometimes the Windows
Update program itself.

But with repsect to malware, you really need to run programs IN ADDITION
TO Kaspersky. MBAM should be the first. Also, aswMBR sometimes catches
malware that other programs miss. I'm not saying you have malware, but
we do not know with absolute certainty that you don't; it needs to be
ruled out.

Finally, you should definitely make sure your hard drive's access mode
didn't slip into the slow-as-molasses PIO mode.
 
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KenK

Daave said:
Regarding RAM, I think you should give us all those figures referred to
above: Total, Limit, and Peak. I say this because although 512 MB might
prove to be enough RAM, there is a chance that it isn't.

Total 514,800
Linit 1,252,683
Peak 734,408

Looks like I was wrong yesterday. Evidently I need a Gb.
Please tell us the specs of your system:

Make and model of PC should do it. If this was built, we will need to
know the make and model of the motherboard for its specs.

9+ year-old eMachine T2984
Finally, go into Task Manager again and figure out which processes are
using more than their fair share of resources:

Ctrl+Alt+Delete | Processes Tab

You can sort by CPU and Mem Usage. We need to know which ones are
showing high numbers.

System idle process 74%
AVP.exe (twice) 11 and 6% I'm pretty sure this is Kaspersky

As I type this.

Using dial-up connection to net. Cable and satellite too expensive as I
never watch TV. No phone company broadband available in my rural area. Not
that interested in on-line speed anyhow - just do email, Google research
and Usenet.
 
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KenK

Daave said:
But with repsect to malware, you really need to run programs IN ADDITION
TO Kaspersky. MBAM should be the first. Also, aswMBR sometimes catches
malware that other programs miss. I'm not saying you have malware, but
we do not know with absolute certainty that you don't; it needs to be
ruled out.

I'll probably try MASM Monday when I'll have more time. I expect it will
take several or more hours to run.
 
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KenK

Daave said:
Finally, you should definitely make sure your hard drive's access mode
didn't slip into the slow-as-molasses PIO mode.

I looked in Device Manager > IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers > Primary (and
Secondary)IDE channel > Advanced Settings

Primary IDE is listed as Ultra DMA mode 5
Secondary IDE Ultra DMA mode 2
 
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Paul

KenK said:
Total 514,800
Linit 1,252,683
Peak 734,408

Looks like I was wrong yesterday. Evidently I need a Gb.


9+ year-old eMachine T2984


System idle process 74%
AVP.exe (twice) 11 and 6% I'm pretty sure this is Kaspersky

As I type this.

Using dial-up connection to net. Cable and satellite too expensive as I
never watch TV. No phone company broadband available in my rural area. Not
that interested in on-line speed anyhow - just do email, Google research
and Usenet.

http://www.cnet.com/products/emachines-t2984/specs/

Intel Celeron D 340 / 2.93 GHz S478
845GV (no AGP slot?)

Looks like it takes 2x1GB max. PC2700 is what they list.
Given the price of RAM these days, the prices are
less than I expected.

http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/compatible-memory-for/eMachines/t2984

Paul
 
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Daave

KenK said:
Total 514,800
Linit 1,252,683
Peak 734,408

Looks like I was wrong yesterday. Evidently I need a Gb.

I agree. Paul posted a link to Crucial. If you plan on keeping this PC
for a while, you might as well get more RAM. 2GB should do the trick.
 
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KenK

Paul said:
http://www.cnet.com/products/emachines-t2984/specs/

Intel Celeron D 340 / 2.93 GHz S478
845GV (no AGP slot?)

Looks like it takes 2x1GB max. PC2700 is what they list.
Given the price of RAM these days, the prices are
less than I expected.

http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/compatible-memory-for/eMachines/t2984

Paul

I haven't located them yet but from what I have for a manual the MB has
two memory slots and will accept up to 2 G. I already have 0.5 Gb - I
rashly assume in a single slot. Can I add 1G to the empty slot to result
in 1.5G RAM? Any idea?

TIA
 
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Paul

KenK said:
I haven't located them yet but from what I have for a manual the MB has
two memory slots and will accept up to 2 G. I already have 0.5 Gb - I
rashly assume in a single slot. Can I add 1G to the empty slot to result
in 1.5G RAM? Any idea?

TIA

You have lots of growth and fallback plans. This is a sampling.

1) Current system 512MB, one DIMM.

2) Buy the 1GB DIMM, try 1GB+512MB two slot config.
Swapping the DIMMs in the slots, should make little difference,
or if there is a difference, it would be too hard to predict the
responsible pattern (stub capacitance).

3) If memtest86+ reports problems, drop to 1GB configuration,
and store the 512MB DIMM in an antistatic bag. Place the
1GB DIMM furthest from the processor. (Keep the 512MB as a spare.
If the 1GB fails and needs to be returned, you'll have the 512MB
to use in its place.)

4) If testing reveals 1GB is not enough, buy the second 1GB DIMM
for a total of 2GB.

The upgrade costs 1X, if (2) or (3) satisfy the requirements.
And costs 2X, if we needed to move to step (4).

*******

When adding or removing DIMMs, all power should be removed from the
computer. The simplest way to do this, is unplug the computer before
you start. This is to avoid standby power flowing in the DIMM slots,
coming in contact with the wrong pin, while the DIMM is being
inserted. On Asus motherboards, a green LED tells you when the
power is drained - on other motherboards, wait 30 seconds to a minute
after you unplug, before beginning work.

In terms of ESD practices, bring your body to the same electrical
potential as the chassis. A grounding strap with internal 1 megohm
resistance is preferred, as it dissipates charge a bit more slowly.
The alligator clip fastens to a shiny I/O screw on the back of
the computer.

(This is now twice the price it used to be! Shop around.)
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2260808

*******

And this always happens, so I have to mention it.

I selected Crucial for a reason. The reason is DIMM composition.

The correct composition for your motherboard, is low density
RAM. 16 chips, each chip having x8 width. Memory chips, with
a common package size, have room for 4 bit, 8 bit, or 16 bit
bus connections. The typical "sweet spot", the one Intel likes,
is x8. If you go x16, it still works, but the max DIMM density
is cut in half. Some older SODIMMs were made that way. If you
use x4, that places too many loads on any per-rank control signals.
The x4 formulation is approved by JEDEC, but specifically denied
by Intel datasheets. And the funny thing is, if you shop for
x4-chip-based DIMMs, they *never* have popular brand names on them.
The companies which make UDIMMs with x4 chips, wish to remain
nameless. They don't want to be associated with what they made.
Which I consider to be pretty strange as a business practice.
You won't find Corsair or Crucial on these - they wouldn't
be caught dead selling that stuff.

Note that, x4 chips exist for a reason, and are perfectly valid
on server DIMMs. When used on a server, "register" chips function
as a buffer between the x4 memory chips, and the system memory
controller. Such RDIMMs even support more ranks than a desktop
product does. So there is a place for the x4 chips, but those
chips should just stay on RDIMMs. We don't need them complicating
matters for desktop users. And the (nameless) manufacturers of
the "wrong" DIMM design, see things differently. A buck is a buck,
even if the customer ends up unhappy.

OK, so where might this be a problem ? Ebay. There are Ebay sellers
who would gladly sell you a nameless x4 based 1GB DIMM, for $5 less
than Crucial sells it. The people I pass memory recommendations to,
they promptly ignore my advice, find the first piece of crap (complete
with warnings right on the web page!), buy it, and are then unhappy
it is throwing errors.

If you want to shop Ebay, by all means, be my guest. As long as you
know you're shopping for x8 width chips PC2700 UDIMMs, there shouldn't
be a problem. Just avoid the temptation to buy the x4 nameless ones.

Mushkin (a memory company), used to keep a web page with five or
six pages of test results. They actually tested x4-width-chip UDIMMs
on popular chipsets of the time. And they could find precisely one
chipset, with enough drive strength to drive 3x1GB configuration of
those things. So if you were really really lucky, you might actually
mix the one capable chipset, with the "bargain DIMMs" :) The Mushkin
web URLs prevented archive.org from archiving the information,
and I dumbly forgot to archive all of it myself, assuming they'd
just leave it there. I would love to show people those
test results, as a warning.

HTH,
Paul
 

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