XP File System Corrupt

S

Stephen Brooker

Hi,
Rod Speed mentioned in aus.computers that I should post a problem I have
here. A copy of my original message is below so you can see what problems
I'm having. Below is also the output from FindPart. It's the 30gb partition
on the 1st drive that I can't access.

Thanks heaps for any help you guys can provide. I think I'm going to
re-format and start from scratch anyway, but I'd like to be able to get
some of the data first.

Steve.



Original Message:
Hi all,

XP was giving me trouble the other night so decided to reboot, upon starting
it gives the error disk read error... and the only option is a reboot. I've
downloaded diagnostic software for my HD and nothing is physically wrong
with the disk, although the file system check included with the software
reboots as soon as it tried to check the partition. Going into the system
console doesn't help either. Using DiskPart the file system type is listed
as unknown, so something has gone screwy.

Anyway, I've resigned myself to the fact that it's re-install time, but I
was wondering if anyone has any great ideas on file recovery. I've got some
backup disks, but there are a couple of newer files that are not backed up
that I'd really like to be able to get my hands on. I've looked on Google
and all the file recovery software seems to need a working version of
Windows to install, which of course I don't have. Is there one anyone knows
of that can be booted from CD or something similar.



FindPart output:

Findpart, version 4.38.
Copyright Svend Olaf Mikkelsen, 2004.

Searches for partitions type 01, 04, 06, 07, 0B, 0C, 0E, 82, 83,
plus Fdisk F6 and Lilo sectors. Information based on bootsectors
is marked B. If the disk is larger than supported by BIOS, the
supported part of the disk is examined. Disks are numbered from 1.

OS: DOS 7.10 All

Disk: 1 Cylinders: 4865 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 38162

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 - 07 63 61432497 29996 0 1 1 3823 254 63 B OK
0 - 07 63 78140097 38154 0 1 1 4863 254 63 BU OK

-----FAT CHS -Size Cl --Root -Good -Rep. Maybe --Bad YYMMDD DataMB
2021 1 2 Second FAT not found.
2092 1 33 Second FAT not found.
2215 1 33 Second FAT not found.
2493 0 33 Second FAT not found.

Partitions according to partition tables on first harddisk:

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1*07 63 61432497 29996 0 1 1 3823*254 63 OK OK

Disk: 2 Cylinders: 2482 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 19469

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 - 83 63 80262 39 0 1 1 4 254 63 B5 OK
50 1 83 63 27856647 13601 50 1 1 1783*254 63 OK 3 OK
Lilo sector 1241 1 1
0 - 0C 28659960 11213370 5475 1784 0 1 2481 254 63 B OK

-----FAT CHS -Size Cl --Root -Good -Rep. Maybe --Bad YYMMDD DataMB
1784 0 37 10930 4 2 10930 0 0 0 030821 2054

Partitions according to partition tables on second harddisk:

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1*83 63 80262 39 0 1 1 4 254 63 OK OK
0 2 0C 28659960 11213370 5475 1784* 0 1 2481*254 63 OK OK
0 3 82 80325 1012095 494 5 0 1 67 254 63 OK
0 4 83 1092420 27567540 13460 68 0 1 1783*254 63 OK R OK
 
C

CSS

Stephen Brooker said:
Hi,
Rod Speed mentioned in aus.computers that I should post a problem I have
here. A copy of my original message is below so you can see what problems
I'm having. Below is also the output from FindPart. It's the 30gb partition
on the 1st drive that I can't access.

Thanks heaps for any help you guys can provide. I think I'm going to
re-format and start from scratch anyway, but I'd like to be able to get
some of the data first.

Steve.



Original Message:
Hi all,

XP was giving me trouble the other night so decided to reboot, upon starting
it gives the error disk read error... and the only option is a reboot. I've
downloaded diagnostic software for my HD and nothing is physically wrong
with the disk, although the file system check included with the software
reboots as soon as it tried to check the partition. Going into the system
console doesn't help either. Using DiskPart the file system type is listed
as unknown, so something has gone screwy.

Anyway, I've resigned myself to the fact that it's re-install time, but I
was wondering if anyone has any great ideas on file recovery. I've got some
backup disks, but there are a couple of newer files that are not backed up
that I'd really like to be able to get my hands on. I've looked on Google
and all the file recovery software seems to need a working version of
Windows to install, which of course I don't have. Is there one anyone knows
of that can be booted from CD or something similar.



FindPart output:

Findpart, version 4.38.
Copyright Svend Olaf Mikkelsen, 2004.

Searches for partitions type 01, 04, 06, 07, 0B, 0C, 0E, 82, 83,
plus Fdisk F6 and Lilo sectors. Information based on bootsectors
is marked B. If the disk is larger than supported by BIOS, the
supported part of the disk is examined. Disks are numbered from 1.

OS: DOS 7.10 All

Disk: 1 Cylinders: 4865 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 38162

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 - 07 63 61432497 29996 0 1 1 3823 254 63 B OK
0 - 07 63 78140097 38154 0 1 1 4863 254 63 BU OK

-----FAT CHS -Size Cl --Root -Good -Rep. Maybe --Bad YYMMDD DataMB
2021 1 2 Second FAT not found.
2092 1 33 Second FAT not found.
2215 1 33 Second FAT not found.
2493 0 33 Second FAT not found.

Partitions according to partition tables on first harddisk:

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1*07 63 61432497 29996 0 1 1 3823*254 63 OK OK

Disk: 2 Cylinders: 2482 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 19469

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 - 83 63 80262 39 0 1 1 4 254 63 B5 OK
50 1 83 63 27856647 13601 50 1 1 1783*254 63 OK 3 OK
Lilo sector 1241 1 1
0 - 0C 28659960 11213370 5475 1784 0 1 2481 254 63 B OK

-----FAT CHS -Size Cl --Root -Good -Rep. Maybe --Bad YYMMDD DataMB
1784 0 37 10930 4 2 10930 0 0 0 030821 2054

Partitions according to partition tables on second harddisk:

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1*83 63 80262 39 0 1 1 4 254 63 OK OK
0 2 0C 28659960 11213370 5475 1784* 0 1 2481*254 63 OK OK
0 3 82 80325 1012095 494 5 0 1 67 254 63 OK
0 4 83 1092420 27567540 13460 68 0 1 1783*254 63 OK R OK

Don;t know if this will help, but might be worth a try. has saved me from
BSOD problems a couple of times:
http://www.digitalwebcast.com/2002/03_mar/tutorials/cw_boot_toot.htm
 
J

Jan van Wijk

Hi Stephen,

XP was giving me trouble the other night so decided to reboot, upon starting
it gives the error disk read error... and the only option is a reboot. I've
downloaded diagnostic software for my HD and nothing is physically wrong
with the disk, although the file system check included with the software
reboots as soon as it tried to check the partition. Going into the system
console doesn't help either. Using DiskPart the file system type is listed
as unknown, so something has gone screwy.

Anyway, I've resigned myself to the fact that it's re-install time, but I
was wondering if anyone has any great ideas on file recovery. I've got some
backup disks, but there are a couple of newer files that are not backed up
that I'd really like to be able to get my hands on. I've looked on Google
and all the file recovery software seems to need a working version of
Windows to install, which of course I don't have. Is there one anyone knows
of that can be booted from CD or something similar.

You don't mention if that partition was NTFS or FAT32, but assuming it
is NTFS,
you might be able to recover the files from it (on an individual
basis) using
my DFSee utility.

It can find files in NTFS partitions, often even when these are
damaged,
and copy the file contents to a different disk or partition that is
accessible
to the booted operating system (just FAT or FAT32 for FreeDOS).
The date/time and attributes are lost.

There is a Windows, OS/2 and DOS version in the same distribution,
so you can use it from a simple DOS boot diskette.
(and a Linux version is coming too :)

You can even order it on a bootable CDROM, or download an ISO
file for that to burn your own (requires a registration).

You can also download a self-extracting image for a bootable DOS
diskette that includes the DOS version.

For evaluation (fully functional!) you can download it from:

http://www.dfsee.com/dfsee.htm#download

You'll probably need some guidance to get the NTFS partitions
recognized and to find/recover individual files, so feel free
to contact DFSee support, either through the Yahoo forum
that is listed on the website, or through email:

support AT dfsee DOT com

Regards, JvW
 
A

Al Dykes

Hi,
Rod Speed mentioned in aus.computers that I should post a problem I have
here. A copy of my original message is below so you can see what problems
I'm having. Below is also the output from FindPart. It's the 30gb partition
on the 1st drive that I can't access.

Thanks heaps for any help you guys can provide. I think I'm going to
re-format and start from scratch anyway, but I'd like to be able to get
some of the data first.

Steve.



Original Message:
Hi all,

XP was giving me trouble the other night so decided to reboot, upon starting
it gives the error disk read error... and the only option is a reboot. I've
downloaded diagnostic software for my HD and nothing is physically wrong
with the disk, although the file system check included with the software
reboots as soon as it tried to check the partition. Going into the system
console doesn't help either. Using DiskPart the file system type is listed
as unknown, so something has gone screwy.

Anyway, I've resigned myself to the fact that it's re-install time, but I
was wondering if anyone has any great ideas on file recovery. I've got some
backup disks, but there are a couple of newer files that are not backed up
that I'd really like to be able to get my hands on. I've looked on Google
and all the file recovery software seems to need a working version of
Windows to install, which of course I don't have. Is there one anyone knows
of that can be booted from CD or something similar.



FindPart output:

Findpart, version 4.38.
Copyright Svend Olaf Mikkelsen, 2004.

Searches for partitions type 01, 04, 06, 07, 0B, 0C, 0E, 82, 83,
plus Fdisk F6 and Lilo sectors. Information based on bootsectors
is marked B. If the disk is larger than supported by BIOS, the
supported part of the disk is examined. Disks are numbered from 1.

OS: DOS 7.10 All

Disk: 1 Cylinders: 4865 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 38162

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 - 07 63 61432497 29996 0 1 1 3823 254 63 B OK
0 - 07 63 78140097 38154 0 1 1 4863 254 63 BU OK

-----FAT CHS -Size Cl --Root -Good -Rep. Maybe --Bad YYMMDD DataMB
2021 1 2 Second FAT not found.
2092 1 33 Second FAT not found.
2215 1 33 Second FAT not found.
2493 0 33 Second FAT not found.

Partitions according to partition tables on first harddisk:

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1*07 63 61432497 29996 0 1 1 3823*254 63 OK OK

Disk: 2 Cylinders: 2482 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 19469

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 - 83 63 80262 39 0 1 1 4 254 63 B5 OK
50 1 83 63 27856647 13601 50 1 1 1783*254 63 OK 3 OK
Lilo sector 1241 1 1
0 - 0C 28659960 11213370 5475 1784 0 1 2481 254 63 B OK

-----FAT CHS -Size Cl --Root -Good -Rep. Maybe --Bad YYMMDD DataMB
1784 0 37 10930 4 2 10930 0 0 0 030821 2054

Partitions according to partition tables on second harddisk:

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1*83 63 80262 39 0 1 1 4 254 63 OK OK
0 2 0C 28659960 11213370 5475 1784* 0 1 2481*254 63 OK OK
0 3 82 80325 1012095 494 5 0 1 67 254 63 OK
0 4 83 1092420 27567540 13460 68 0 1 1783*254 63 OK R OK


You can try to access for files and copy them before reformatting
in two ways. Results are similar but which one you use depends on
what assets and expertese you have or have access to.

1. Burning a bootable Knoppix Linux CD (I get them from www.linuxiso.org).
This can see NTFS file systems and you can copy to another disk
or maybe a USB storage device.

2. Putting the disk in a good XP machine as a secondary device
and copying the data.

Opt 2 doesn't require you to open the box, or have a second PC, but
it requires a little Linux work.
 
S

Svend Olaf Mikkelsen

Original Message:
Hi all,

XP was giving me trouble the other night so decided to reboot, upon starting
it gives the error disk read error... and the only option is a reboot. I've
downloaded diagnostic software for my HD and nothing is physically wrong
with the disk, although the file system check included with the software
reboots as soon as it tried to check the partition. Going into the system
console doesn't help either. Using DiskPart the file system type is listed
as unknown, so something has gone screwy.

Anyway, I've resigned myself to the fact that it's re-install time, but I
was wondering if anyone has any great ideas on file recovery. I've got some
backup disks, but there are a couple of newer files that are not backed up
that I'd really like to be able to get my hands on. I've looked on Google
and all the file recovery software seems to need a working version of
Windows to install, which of course I don't have. Is there one anyone knows
of that can be booted from CD or something similar.
Findpart, version 4.38.
Copyright Svend Olaf Mikkelsen, 2004.
OS: DOS 7.10 All

Disk: 1 Cylinders: 4865 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 38162

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 - 07 63 61432497 29996 0 1 1 3823 254 63 B OK
0 - 07 63 78140097 38154 0 1 1 4863 254 63 BU OK
Partitions according to partition tables on first harddisk:

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1*07 63 61432497 29996 0 1 1 3823*254 63 OK OK

Disk: 2 Cylinders: 2482 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 19469
Partitions according to partition tables on second harddisk:

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1*83 63 80262 39 0 1 1 4 254 63 OK OK
0 2 0C 28659960 11213370 5475 1784* 0 1 2481*254 63 OK OK
0 3 82 80325 1012095 494 5 0 1 67 254 63 OK
0 4 83 1092420 27567540 13460 68 0 1 1783*254 63 OK R OK

No problems can be seen in the Findpart output. It shows a 29996 MB
NTFS partition in the beginning of disk 1, and the previous presence
of a 38154 MB NTFS partition. The partition table and the boot sector
of the partition seem OK.

If data are lost in this case, I recommend that the recovery work is
done by copying files to another disk using recovery programs.

If the disk is inserted in another system running NT/2000/XP, the
partition should be hidden in the partition tables first, to protect
it from further damage done by the operating system.

Since you seem to have Linux installed (the ID 83 and 82 partitions on
disk 2), you could attempt to mount the NTFS partition read only from
Linux, and if possible copy data to disk 2.

Another option is to copy files using my FindNTFS program. If the DOS
versions is used, long file names however will not be copied. If you
as example boot to a DOS floppy, and work from the FAT32 partition on
disk 2 (with room for output files), the command to attempt to make a
file listing for the NTFS partition will be:

findntfs 1 0 1 1 files files-a.txt
 
F

Folkert Rienstra

I wouldn't trust someone's software much when that person can't even setup
his newsclient correctly to make a proper post.

Jan van Wijk said:
Hi Stephen,



You don't mention if that partition was NTFS or FAT32,
but assuming it is NTFS,

That is what FindPart says.
 
S

Stephen Brooker

Svend said:
No problems can be seen in the Findpart output. It shows a 29996 MB
NTFS partition in the beginning of disk 1, and the previous presence
of a 38154 MB NTFS partition. The partition table and the boot sector
of the partition seem OK.

If data are lost in this case, I recommend that the recovery work is
done by copying files to another disk using recovery programs.

If the disk is inserted in another system running NT/2000/XP, the
partition should be hidden in the partition tables first, to protect
it from further damage done by the operating system.

Since you seem to have Linux installed (the ID 83 and 82 partitions on
disk 2), you could attempt to mount the NTFS partition read only from
Linux, and if possible copy data to disk 2.

Another option is to copy files using my FindNTFS program. If the DOS
versions is used, long file names however will not be copied. If you
as example boot to a DOS floppy, and work from the FAT32 partition on
disk 2 (with room for output files), the command to attempt to make a
file listing for the NTFS partition will be:

findntfs 1 0 1 1 files files-a.txt

Thanks Svend, Linux mount complains with "wrong fs type, bad option, bad
superblock on /dev/hda1" so that doesn't work. I've tried testdisk for
Linux and like everything else it sees the partition fine, but does nothing
when I try to see the actual files.
I'll give your findntfs tool a try.
Thanks for your help.

Steve.
 
J

Joep

Folkert Rienstra said:
I wouldn't trust someone's software much when that person can't even setup
his newsclient correctly to make a proper post.

I wouldn't trust someone's opinion when he's such a 'zuurpruim' like you.
 
S

Stephen Brooker

Svend said:
No problems can be seen in the Findpart output. It shows a 29996 MB
NTFS partition in the beginning of disk 1, and the previous presence
of a 38154 MB NTFS partition. The partition table and the boot sector
of the partition seem OK.

If data are lost in this case, I recommend that the recovery work is
done by copying files to another disk using recovery programs.

If the disk is inserted in another system running NT/2000/XP, the
partition should be hidden in the partition tables first, to protect
it from further damage done by the operating system.

Since you seem to have Linux installed (the ID 83 and 82 partitions on
disk 2), you could attempt to mount the NTFS partition read only from
Linux, and if possible copy data to disk 2.

Another option is to copy files using my FindNTFS program. If the DOS
versions is used, long file names however will not be copied. If you
as example boot to a DOS floppy, and work from the FAT32 partition on
disk 2 (with room for output files), the command to attempt to make a
file listing for the NTFS partition will be:

findntfs 1 0 1 1 files files-a.txt

A big thanks Svend. Tried findntfs under DOS and it does find all the files
I want to rescue. I've managed to install XP onto the empty portion of the
drive (after some mucking about), so I'm about to get the windows version
and start to get my files back.

Thanks for the help and great utilities.

S.
 
J

Jan van Wijk

I wouldn't trust someone's software much when that person can't even setup
his newsclient correctly to make a proper post.

And I wouldn't mind setting it up better if you would tell me WHAT is
wrong with it ...

Regards, JvW
 

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