workgroup logon pasword now invalid

[Guest]

I changed my work laptop PC from a domain logon to a
workgroup logon so that I could join and use
resources on my home network. The laptop
now prompts for user id and password and does not
provide what was the optional domain. When I
provide the password that previously logged the computer
on both locally and to the domain when I had work network
connectivity, I am informed that the password is invalid.
I tried supplying the machine name and user id in the
user id field to no avail.

 

[Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]]

You'll need to know the local admin login and password, but even if you know
that, you're going to have to bring the laptop back to work to ask the
sysadmin to add it back to the domain.

Next time, don't change your network settings - you didn't need to, to
access your home workgroup.

 

[Veronica Loell]

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote / skrev:

You'll need to know the local admin login and password, but even if you know
that, you're going to have to bring the laptop back to work to ask the
sysadmin to add it back to the domain.

Next time, don't change your network settings - you didn't need to, to
access your home workgroup.

So, how does that work? Does one simply use mapped drives in the
home-network and not consider the workgroup at all? Wouldn't this mean
that the network-browsing is disabled though?

- Veronica Loell

 

[Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]]

Always log into your domain, with cached credentials.
Make sure your TCP/IP settings match your home network's (easy if you're
using DHCP in both places)
Make sure you can ping the home PCs by IP address
Map drives using the remote computer's credentials, either in Windows
explorer (tools | map network drive) or net use.

You should be able to browse, too, once your work computer has been online
for a bit and all the computers have time to see each other. But you really
don't need to browse if you know the host computer & share names. You can
even use a batch file.

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote / skrev:

You'll need to know the local admin login and password, but even if
you know that, you're going to have to bring the laptop back to work
to ask the sysadmin to add it back to the domain.

Next time, don't change your network settings - you didn't need to,
to access your home workgroup.

So, how does that work? Does one simply use mapped drives in the
home-network and not consider the workgroup at all? Wouldn't this mean
that the network-browsing is disabled though?

- Veronica Loell

 

[Veronica Loell]

Thanks,

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote / skrev:

Always log into your domain, with cached credentials.

I am pretty sure that I had to change to workgroup on my laptop before I
could connect my machines at home. But it may very well have been
something else that was not working.

Actually, my laptop is running NT4 so perhaps there is some difference.
But cashing the credentials, would that be a default setting or
something that doesn't happen automatically?

Make sure your TCP/IP settings match your home network's (easy if you're
using DHCP in both places)
Make sure you can ping the home PCs by IP address
Map drives using the remote computer's credentials, either in Windows
explorer (tools | map network drive) or net use.

You should be able to browse, too, once your work computer has been online
for a bit and all the computers have time to see each other. But you really
don't need to browse if you know the host computer & share names. You can
even use a batch file.

Perhaps the problem was simply that I didn't have the machines connected
long enough. But basically what you are saying is that I do not need to
join the workgroup to network with the machines in the workgroup as long
as they are physically connected? Apologies if I am being dense

 

[Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]]

Inline....

Veronica Loell wrote:

I am pretty sure that I had to change to workgroup on my laptop
before I could connect my machines at home. But it may very well have
been something else that was not working.

No, because you can't switch back and forth. If you change from the domain
to workgroup, you have to bring the computer back to the office, and beg
your domain admin to re-add it to the domain.

Actually, my laptop is running NT4 so perhaps there is some
difference. But cashing the credentials, would that be a default
setting or something that doesn't happen automatically?

It should happen automatically even in NT4.

Perhaps the problem was simply that I didn't have the machines
connected long enough. But basically what you are saying is that I do
not need to join the workgroup to network with the machines in the
workgroup as long as they are physically connected? Apologies if I am
being dense

You're not dense - and you've stated it correctly. As long as you can log in
while not connected to the work domain, and have basic TCP/IP connectivity,
can ping by name as well as IP address (the former may take a while for the
network to recognize, but if you like, you can add an entry to your hosts
file on the laptop), you can do what you need to.

 

[Veronica Loell]

Thanks for the explanation, much clearer now!

 

[Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]]

No worries! ;-)