Word 2007 Learning Curve

L

Liontamer

JMB
I can relate to your frustrations. And I can offer you this piece of
advice. Everything takes time. Unfortunately, when it come to computers
everything is an exact science. There's always an answer for some issue or
concern. Your prior experience will help you digest new stuff. It may not
always work the same way. But at least you've got a sort-of head start. You
know something about the language being used, so you might have some insight
on how to proceed or what to look for in an answer. Look, I am also dealing
with a learning curve too. And I just can't believe how much information
there is to learn and comprehend. However, here's something I find helpful.
When things really start to "burn your brain" take a break! Get away from it
all. Come back later. You'll be refreshed and feel better. I used to teach
in the computer field a few years ago. And you don't lose stuff you've
learnt in the past. It just helps you learn new stuff in the future. Be
patient with yourself. You'll figure it out. It just takes time.
 
D

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

You may also find it helpful to the Office 2007 add-in that helps find
commands in Word, PowerPoint and Excel. It's a prototype developed by
Microsoft Office Labs and they want to get lots of feedback to understand
how it is used.

You can get it from this link:

http://www.officelabs.com/projects/searchcommands/Pages/default.aspx

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP
 
J

Jim Vaught

Herb: I bought your book yesterday and am finding it useful so far, but I've
still got a LOT to learn
about Word 2007. Something I've been curious about: How do people such as
yourself write a book
on new software programs or editions of those programs? Do the software
companies provide you and other software guide manuals' authors with their
documentation generated when they were developing the program, or what?
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

I'll be interested in Herb's answer, but my impression is that authors have
to figure it out mostly for themselves, working with a beta version and just
trying out all the program features. To be sure, they build on their
knowledge of previous versions, but discovery of new features, I think, is
left up to the author. If MS provides any guidance, I'd be interested to
hear about it.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org
 
J

Jim Vaught

That's something I don't understand then, because you would think they would
want "how to guides" out on the market ASAP to increase sales of the
software. I assumed they at least provided documentation to authors in order
to facilitate that process.

Suzanne S. Barnhill said:
I'll be interested in Herb's answer, but my impression is that authors have
to figure it out mostly for themselves, working with a beta version and just
trying out all the program features. To be sure, they build on their
knowledge of previous versions, but discovery of new features, I think, is
left up to the author. If MS provides any guidance, I'd be interested to
hear about it.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org
 
T

Terry Farrell

Jim

In a different era, MS provided manuals with the applications. They dropped
that idea (probably some tree-hugging evangelist's idea) and replaced them
with Help files. However, the help files still have a long way to go to meet
most users' requirements. There is far more on line content available
through the Help button, but finding it is horrendous.

Terry Farrell
 
S

sherrykappel

One familiarization asset you'll all enjoy are the Search Commands
Ribbons, available free from Microsoft's Office Labs site (http://
www.officelabs.com). There's one each for Word, PowerPoint and Excel.
Essentially, you type into a text field the command you're looking for
and an expandable group of possibilities is shown. Best of all, for
each command served up in the search, the 'Super Tooltip' tells you
just where it can be found in the application.

Search Commands Ribbons
http://www.officelabs.com/projects/searchcommands/Pages/default.aspx

Hope it helps!

Sherry Kappel
(e-mail address removed)
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

I think you'll find that manuals such as Herb's appear almost simultaneously
with the apps, but at the expense, sometimes of accuracy if features are
changed (or dropped) at the last minute (a drawback of working with beta
software). I recall that Herb had to redo a bunch of screen shots because
the look of some dialog or other was changed at the last minute.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org
 
A

Andre

I'm so glad to have read all of this...here is what I had posted which seems
to reach most of your comments.

As an experienced legal secretary, Information Technology Support Specialist
and soon-to-be on-the-job trainer in a renowned legal firm, I believe it is
mandatory for me and for Microsoft Word users in this work environment (and
others similar to it)to share my opinions and observances of the totally
remodeled Word 2007 interface.

Although I am now an advanced Word user, I was once a devoted, passionate
and unconditionnal WordPerfect user and was for many years. I believed and
still believe that Wordperfect was really user friendly, easy to customize,
flexible, and mostly, transparent with regards to the logic used in the
structure and management of word processed documents. All of which I believe
Word does not have.

My transition to Word was done with teeth-grinding, frustration,and regrets.
With years of hands-on experience (and sweating), extensive and diversified
training, and a huge microsoft library (books, videos, learning software and
cd's and dvd's) .... I have finally managed the use of advanced functions in
creating long complex documents, in this not-so user friendly interface and
rigid structure. I now know most of the workarounds necessary to function
with Word.

Last year, almost converted to Word, I had the shocking experience of
meeting with the new Microsoft Word 2007 new interface. Past the initial
shock, I did extensive reading of your Microsoft Office 2007 books, visited
numerous specialized Word sites, and used Office 2007 for a year. Before
writing this email, I was still trying to convince myself that I would adapt
sooner or later, and forget this transition. However, I am convinced I will
work with Word 2007 because I have to, but will never appreciate the
interface that has been totally remodeled considering (no doubt)the needs
and opinions of beginner users.

I believe, the new interface has been developed on the basis (according to
my analyses and experience)of answering the needs of beginner users to create
fancy and good looking documents rapidly.

This would be fine if the sale of document processing software was intended
for a clientele of beginner users and high school students who use word
sporadically for basic tasks. However, I believe, that word processors are
destined for intermediate to advanced users evolving in the professional
workplace to answer to the demands of professionals who make it possible for
users to have access to expensive and rapidly changing software.

The new concept of a "contextual" working environment does not favor a
logical use of Word and the mastering of its functionalities. According to
me, (and many experts) this concept has left, experienced intermediate and
advanced users looking and searching for tools and functions necessary to the
logical structure of documents in Word.

Tools now made available in this new contextual environment are limited too
the particulars of the document being worked on. Therefore, focusing
user-actions to be task and document-specific rather than promoting and
facilitating structured, logical and methodical working methods which result
in well-structured, logical, stable, efficient and professional documents
through the use of templates, styles, outlining and numbering.

Also, this new concept does not create, a smooth-flowing and efficient
work-flow process obtained by the acquisition of automation processes
resulting from the repeated execution of actions in a logic and methodical
way.

The only work-around suggested for this major obstacle is to create
customized toolbars (which most experienced users do not use anyways, because
it is much more efficient to use keyboard shortcuts) and go back time and
time again to the Microsoft Home button. Note, that inexperienced users
usually do not take the time to create a customized environment.

My main concern here, is not only that this new interface, may cause
document processing to become a nightmare and encur lost of time and money
for users, consequently businesses, but that it may also compromise
companies' strive to achieve and maintain a professional, consistent and
unified corporate image. The basics of marketing will be at peril.

If you wish to obtain specific examples in support of what I have advanced I
can supply you with them, but Word specialists have written books and books
bringing out the importance of understanding and mastering complex document
structure mechanics to achieve long, complex, stable documents. Several
specialists also mention the increased efficiency of document production when
using keyboard shortcuts. Why go back to using the mouse more often with
toolbars, buttons, contextual menus and contextual work interface.

For a final Word, why not change the programming of your interface (Word
2008 maybe?)to the one used by Wordperfect programmers?

Why try to reinvent when a majority of users agree that Wordperfect was the
most user-friendly word processing interface.

I thank you for taking the time to read me, and I sincerely hope that I will
be able to reignite my passion for long complex documents.
 
D

DDE

I have a problem when I save a word file that I have downloaded off of the
internet site where I do online teaching. If I click save as, I then choose
the location in my computer. And it works fine. If I download the file, and
then click save, and then edit the file, and then click save, and then close
the file, it disappears. I can not find it anywhere in my computer. The
search option in my startup menu will not find it.

Where is it? How do I get to it?

Help, please.
 
B

Ben

You may have opened the Word file directly from your browser without
saving it first to a folder. The browser will download the file to a
temporary internet directly to open it and that is where it gets saved
when you don't use "save as". You need to either right click the link
and save it to a specific folder or once in the word document do a "save
as" to specify to save it somewhere other than the temporary internet
folder that your browser has placed it. If you do a save as from MS Word
from within the document, you can also usually determine where the
temporary folder is located.

Regards,
Ben
 
B

Ben

Ben said:
You may have opened the Word file directly from your browser without
saving it first to a folder. The browser will download the file to a
temporary internet directly to open it and that is where it gets saved
when you don't use "save as". You need to either right click the link

I meant to say that the browser will download the file to a temporary
internet *directory* (i.e. folder). The word "directly" was a typo.

Regards,
Ben
 
G

Graham Mayor

When you open a document from an e-mail attachment it opens as a temporary
file. You make and save your changes to that temporary file and when you
close Word the temporary file is gone - so don't do it! See also
http://www.gmayor.com/outlook_attachments.htm

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com

<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
 
T

Terry Farrell

If you don't use SaveAs and choose a location, the file will be in the
Temporary Internet Files - and usually there are many thousands of these on
a busy computer. Nor are they indexed, so finding them using Search is
tricky too.
 

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments. After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.

Ask a Question

Top