WinXP SP2 very, very slow??

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Daave

Robert said:
If I use the three step protocol when I boot up, the WinXP is quite
snappy and connects to the internet quite efficiently.

Again, the three steps
1) Right after the Desktop appears, kill the svchost.exe that hogs the
CPU
2) Stop the SSDP Discovery
3) RUN ipconfig /flushdns

Try this:

Start | Control Panel | Automatic updates

Which option is selected?
 
R

Robert Macy

  *Bonjour Robert Macy * !
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May behttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/932494http://blogs.technet.com/askperf/archive/2008/01/11/getting-started-w...

Jean-Francois,

Bonjour, and merci beaucoup for these two URLs

I believe the problem does relate to some kind of automatic update
trying to ??
Luckily, svchost is NOT crashing, but apparently hogging the CPU time
and making it appear the computer is stopped.

An observation:
Microsoft help websites CANNOT be saved in .mht format in order to
read them and print them offline, where as most of the third party
websites can be saved that way. So at all of these Microsoft websites
I have to save the information .txt format and spend time fiddling it
back into readable shape.

These two website combined with that very useful program 'System
Information' may help. This program says I'm missing two programs for
my IE6
iecont.dll
iecontlc.dll
...I wonder if they are necessary

Regards,
Robert
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Robert said:
One mo' time...

See this 08 Aug-08 reply of mine to your original thread in IE
General:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general/msg/4af1afd43a68c75f

Ok, I spent a whole day, going through that list, downloading
programs, running and scanning, etc. Looking for malware [not finding
any]

And I'm still having to...

If I use the three step protocol when I boot up, the WinXP is quite
snappy and connects to the internet quite efficiently.

Again, the three steps
1) Right after the Desktop appears, kill the svchost.exe that hogs the
CPU
2) Stop the SSDP Discovery
3) RUN ipconfig /flushdns

If the machine did that automatically, I'd be done.

Please cite a link to the forum thread where you've posted your HijackThis
log for review by an expert, Robert. If you've not done so, you're not
finished yet (despite what your scanning may have said).

[If you'd followed my recommendations from the git-go, you'd probably be
running troublefree 2 weeks ago. I am not going to spend another 3 weeks on
this. Good luck.]
 
R

Robert Macy

Ok, I spent a whole day, going through that list, downloading
programs, running and scanning, etc.  Looking for malware [not finding
any]
And I'm still having to...
If I use the three step protocol when I boot up, the WinXP is quite
snappy and connects to the internet quite efficiently.
Again, the three steps
1) Right after the Desktop appears, kill the svchost.exe that hogs the
CPU
2) Stop the SSDP Discovery
3) RUN ipconfig /flushdns
If the machine did that automatically, I'd be done.

Please cite a link to the forum thread where you've posted your HijackThis
log for review by an expert, Robert.  If you've not done so, you're not
finished yet (despite what your scanning may have said).

[If you'd followed my recommendations from the git-go, you'd probably be
running troublefree 2 weeks ago.  I am not going to spend another 3 weeks on
this.  Good luck.]- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Don't forget the main symptom was an inability to connect to the web.
Made it VERY difficult to download AdAware, HiJackThis.exe and then to
upload anything anywhere.

The back log on reviewing hijack logs appears to be more than two
weeks. Do not misinterpret, I am not chiding excellent volunteers for
their ability, rather stating a fact.

Right now I'm on the Win98 IE6, so have no access to the information
on the WinXP machine.

Robert
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Robert said:
One mo' time...
See this 08 Aug-08 reply of mine to your original thread in IE
General:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.gene...
Ok, I spent a whole day, going through that list, downloading
programs, running and scanning, etc. Looking for malware [not finding
any]
And I'm still having to...
If I use the three step protocol when I boot up, the WinXP is quite
snappy and connects to the internet quite efficiently.
Again, the three steps
1) Right after the Desktop appears, kill the svchost.exe that hogs the
CPU
2) Stop the SSDP Discovery
3) RUN ipconfig /flushdns
If the machine did that automatically, I'd be done.

Please cite a link to the forum thread where you've posted your
HijackThis
log for review by an expert, Robert. If you've not done so, you're not
finished yet (despite what your scanning may have said).

[If you'd followed my recommendations from the git-go, you'd probably be
running troublefree 2 weeks ago. I am not going to spend another 3 weeks
on
this. Good luck.]

Don't forget the main symptom was an inability to connect to the web.
Made it VERY difficult to download AdAware, HiJackThis.exe and then to
upload anything anywhere.

You could have used your Win98 machine to do all of this.
The back log on reviewing hijack logs appears to be more than two
weeks...

Not in all of the forums I cited.
 
R

Robert Macy

Robert said:
One mo' time...
See this 08 Aug-08 reply of mine to your original thread in IE
General:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.gene....
Ok, I spent a whole day, going through that list, downloading
programs, running and scanning, etc. Looking for malware [not finding
any]
And I'm still having to...
If I use the three step protocol when I boot up, the WinXP is quite
snappy and connects to the internet quite efficiently.
Again, the three steps
1) Right after the Desktop appears, kill the svchost.exe that hogs the
CPU
2) Stop the SSDP Discovery
3) RUN ipconfig /flushdns
If the machine did that automatically, I'd be done.
Please cite a link to the forum thread where you've posted your
HijackThis
log for review by an expert, Robert. If you've not done so, you're not
finished yet (despite what your scanning may have said).
[If you'd followed my recommendations from the git-go, you'd probably be
running troublefree 2 weeks ago. I am not going to spend another 3 weeks
on
this. Good luck.]
Don't forget the main symptom was an inability to connect to the web.
Made it VERY difficult to download AdAware, HiJackThis.exe and then to
upload anything anywhere.

You could have used your Win98 machine to do all of this.
The back log on reviewing hijack logs appears to be more than two
weeks...

Not in all of the forums I cited.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Been a long delay, after installing the AdAware, and scanning etc
rebooting once, machine worked ok, but after sitting dormant for a
day, then would not boot up. took three tries before could get thing
up and running, so now don't know what value the 'old' log is and have
to do it all over again - when can get the machine on again.

but as soon as up again need to run two forms, one that works [my
three step protocol] and can post directly, and the other which
doesn't work and may or may not have the machine up to a running state
at all.
 
R

Robert Macy

...snip...


Been a long delay, after installing the AdAware, and scanning etc
rebooting once, machine worked ok, but after sitting dormant for a
day, then would not boot up.  took three tries before could get thing
up and running, so now don't know what value the 'old' log is and have
to do it all over again - when can get the machine on again.

but as soon as up again need to run two forms, one that works [my
three step protocol] and can post directly, and the other which
doesn't work and may or may not have the machine up to a running state
at all.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sorry to reply to my own posting, but...

Again, this machine is now not booting up at all !!!

What ever that Ad-Aware did has caused [or is coincidental] with this
machine to now not boot up. Just goes to a black screen and a single
white cursor like bar at the top and then stops. Took me three tries
again to get this thing going in order to create the two logs.

Same problem still exists. However, the svchost.exe that hogs the cpu
time when I dial up to connect hogs the cpu so much that I can't run
System Information program to find out what program owns it. I could
only find out from task manager that it was svchost.exe from the
NETWORK, makes sense

Probably that pesky auto update feature in there somewhere.

Will now try to post the .log for the 'slow' version

Robert
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

PA said:
Robert said:
One mo' time...

See this 08 Aug-08 reply of mine to your original thread in IE
General:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general/msg/4af1afd43a68c75f

Ok, I spent a whole day, going through that list, downloading
programs, running and scanning, etc. Looking for malware [not finding
any]

And I'm still having to...

If I use the three step protocol when I boot up, the WinXP is quite
snappy and connects to the internet quite efficiently.

Again, the three steps
1) Right after the Desktop appears, kill the svchost.exe that hogs the
CPU
2) Stop the SSDP Discovery
3) RUN ipconfig /flushdns

If the machine did that automatically, I'd be done.

Please cite a link to the forum thread where you've posted your HijackThis
log for review by an expert, Robert. If you've not done so, you're not
finished yet (despite what your scanning may have said).

[If you'd followed my recommendations from the git-go, you'd probably be
running troublefree 2 weeks ago. I am not going to spend another 3 weeks
on
this. Good luck.]

Nearly a month later and Robert has posted his HJT log in an appropriate
forum: http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=35763 (where we see that he
still doesn't have an anti-virus application installed).
 
B

Bob I

PA said:
PA said:
Robert said:
One mo' time...

See this 08 Aug-08 reply of mine to your original thread in IE
General:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general/msg/4af1afd43a68c75f



Ok, I spent a whole day, going through that list, downloading
programs, running and scanning, etc. Looking for malware [not finding
any]

And I'm still having to...

If I use the three step protocol when I boot up, the WinXP is quite
snappy and connects to the internet quite efficiently.

Again, the three steps
1) Right after the Desktop appears, kill the svchost.exe that hogs the
CPU
2) Stop the SSDP Discovery
3) RUN ipconfig /flushdns

If the machine did that automatically, I'd be done.


Please cite a link to the forum thread where you've posted your
HijackThis
log for review by an expert, Robert. If you've not done so, you're not
finished yet (despite what your scanning may have said).

[If you'd followed my recommendations from the git-go, you'd probably be
running troublefree 2 weeks ago. I am not going to spend another 3
weeks on
this. Good luck.]


Nearly a month later and Robert has posted his HJT log in an appropriate
forum: http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=35763 (where we see that he
still doesn't have an anti-virus application installed).

As they say, "You can lead a horse to water............"
 
R

Robert Macy

Yes, the month was spent fighting unreliable boot ups and the fact
that I can't dedicate my life to this.
As they say, "You can lead a horse to water............"- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Did you see a virus in the log?


So far the steps I've done pursuing fixing the problem has resulted in
extremely unreliable boot up. Didn't have that problem before. I
should have stopped at doing my 3 step protocol and gone on with my
life. Nuisance, but started everytime.
 
B

Bob I

Robert said:
Yes, the month was spent fighting unreliable boot ups and the fact
that I can't dedicate my life to this.




Did you see a virus in the log?


So far the steps I've done pursuing fixing the problem has resulted in
extremely unreliable boot up. Didn't have that problem before. I
should have stopped at doing my 3 step protocol and gone on with my
life. Nuisance, but started everytime.

I suspect the issue is somehow related to the "special software" having
something changed by the Adaware which is causing the "pause" while it
waits for a reply that is blocked, and when you disable things it is
just skipping that check.
 
R

Robert Macy

I suspect the issue is somehow related to the "special software" having
something changed by the Adaware which is causing the "pause" while it
waits for a reply that is blocked, and when you disable things it is
just skipping that check.-

Thank you for your reply.
The HijackThis log is posted at aumha site.
Any idea which 'special software'?
I'm willing to uninstall AdAware [again!] if that will help.

I don't mind quitting and just doing the three step protocol at this
point. But, there's something nagging about not having everything
under control. <g>

Four with protocol and five without, are there too many svchost.exe
running?

Robert
 
B

Bob I

Robert said:
..snip..



I suspect the issue is somehow related to the "special software" having
something changed by the Adaware which is causing the "pause" while it
waits for a reply that is blocked, and when you disable things it is
just skipping that check.-


Thank you for your reply.
The HijackThis log is posted at aumha site.
Any idea which 'special software'?
I'm willing to uninstall AdAware [again!] if that will help.

I don't mind quitting and just doing the three step protocol at this
point. But, there's something nagging about not having everything
under control. <g>

Four with protocol and five without, are there too many svchost.exe
running?

Robert

The National Institute program appears to have some external hooks and
updating features, just guessing from the filenames I saw. You may want
to try reinstalling it, with out the Adaware.
 

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