windows xp reinstall

[Tom]

Hi
Situation - After installing XP (upgrade) on a previous computer, (that has
has since died) I have installed it on my new machine, not realizing that
the license only applied to one machine. Having obtained a new copy I would
like advice on how best to install it.
Given that the machine has been used for display and has programs that do
not relate to my current hardware enviroment, would it be advisable to
format drive C: and then -
A- Put the disk in the drive and wait ?
B- Install windows 98 (upgrade) then install windows XP
C- Do nothing (Put the disk in the drive and wait ?)

Nigel, if the previous installation of XP was from a "retail" version, then you can install it on another machine, as long as you remove it from the previous. If it was OEM, then that holds true that it is dead with the previous machine. I am going on that you have an "Upgrade" version, not a full install, and it is retail?

The condition where you cannot use the Upgrade retail; if the 98 on the dead PC was OEM then it is dead with the previous PC, if the 98 is retail, then you remove it, you can use it as a qualifier on the new machine for the Upgrade XP (if that is what you have?). Otherwise, you would need to purchase a 98/ME retail for the new machine to make the Upgrade version a valid one. You don't need to purchase a full install, if you can find a 98/ME disk, it is way cheaper, and perfectly acceptable.

For your purpose, I would recommend a clean install, as an Upgrade can do this (retail anyway).

Read here for instructions on a clean install:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

 

[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

Hi,

You didn't need a new license. It is perfectly legal to move your upgrade
copy to the new system. You would just need to phone in activation.

As to where you stand now: Assuming this is a new machine (floor model?), I
would recommend that you start clean. Boot the WinXP CD and start the
installation by removing the existing system partition and then creating a
new one from the free space. Then format and install. If it is an upgrade
version, you will need to temporarily insert your Win98 CD for the
verification routine. There is no need to install anything from the Win98
disk.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

 

[nigel.cooper]

Hi
Situation - After installing XP (upgrade) on a previous computer, (that has
has since died) I have installed it on my new machine, not realizing that
the license only applied to one machine. Having obtained a new copy I would
like advice on how best to install it.
Given that the machine has been used for display and has programs that do
not relate to my current hardware enviroment, would it be advisable to
format drive C: and then -
A- Put the disk in the drive and wait ?
B- Install windows 98 (upgrade) then install windows XP
C- Do nothing (Put the disk in the drive and wait ?)

 

[Crusty \Old B@stard\]

No Tom!

I am sure you mean "if he has purchased Win98/ME, and still has the disk" he
can use it to perform an upgrade install - as long as the disk has NOT been
used to install Win98?ME to another computer that is still actively using
said operating system!

The way YOU put it, it appears that you would allow him to use his neighbors
disk, or a disk from an active operating system on another computer!

Piracy is piracy, isn't it?

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

Hi
Situation - After installing XP (upgrade) on a previous computer, (that
has
has since died) I have installed it on my new machine, not realizing that
the license only applied to one machine. Having obtained a new copy I
would
like advice on how best to install it.
Given that the machine has been used for display and has programs that do
not relate to my current hardware enviroment, would it be advisable to
format drive C: and then -
A- Put the disk in the drive and wait ?
B- Install windows 98 (upgrade) then install windows XP
C- Do nothing (Put the disk in the drive and wait ?)

Nigel, if the previous installation of XP was from a "retail" version, then
you can install it on another machine, as long as you remove it from the
previous. If it was OEM, then that holds true that it is dead with the
previous machine. I am going on that you have an "Upgrade" version, not a
full install, and it is retail?

The condition where you cannot use the Upgrade retail; if the 98 on the dead
PC was OEM then it is dead with the previous PC, if the 98 is retail, then
you remove it, you can use it as a qualifier on the new machine for the
Upgrade XP (if that is what you have?). Otherwise, you would need to
purchase a 98/ME retail for the new machine to make the Upgrade version a
valid one. You don't need to purchase a full install, if you can find a
98/ME disk, it is way cheaper, and perfectly acceptable.

For your purpose, I would recommend a clean install, as an Upgrade can do
this (retail anyway).

Read here for instructions on a clean install:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

 

[Tom]

It's unfortunate you don't read properly, and are trying to defend when you think it is OK to pirate or not. I said no such thing, and explained what/when it is correct. I see you ignored what I stated,

"The condition where you cannot use the Upgrade retail; if the 98 on the dead
PC was OEM then it is dead with the previous PC, if the 98 is retail, then you remove it, you can use it as a qualifier on the new machine for the Upgrade XP (if that is what you have?). "

Note I stated 98 retail, AND REMOVE IT, then go on to say he would need to purchase a qualifier (e.g. retail 98/ME) to use the (if it is retail) XP upgrade on the other new machine, if it is removed from the previous also. IF he didn't make the 98 condition, he then would need to purchase a 98/ME retail for use, provided the retail upgrade is not still installed, as I stated that condition in my first paragraph to the OP. I specifically stated that he didn't need to purchase a full install of XP, as it would be cheaper top buy a retail qualifier.

Read carefully from now on, OLD MAN!

 

[Crusty \Old B@stard\]

"You don't need to purchase a full install, if you can find a 98/ME disk, it
is way cheaper, and perfectly acceptable."

The above sentence muddies up the statements you made prior to this
sentence!

If you can find.......

He either has it, or he doesn't!



--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard


It's unfortunate you don't read properly, and are trying to defend when you
think it is OK to pirate or not. I said no such thing, and explained
what/when it is correct. I see you ignored what I stated,

"The condition where you cannot use the Upgrade retail; if the 98 on the
dead
PC was OEM then it is dead with the previous PC, if the 98 is retail, then
you remove it, you can use it as a qualifier on the new machine for the
Upgrade XP (if that is what you have?). "

Note I stated 98 retail, AND REMOVE IT, then go on to say he would need to
purchase a qualifier (e.g. retail 98/ME) to use the (if it is retail) XP
upgrade on the other new machine, if it is removed from the previous also.
IF he didn't make the 98 condition, he then would need to purchase a 98/ME
retail for use, provided the retail upgrade is not still installed, as I
stated that condition in my first paragraph to the OP. I specifically stated
that he didn't need to purchase a full install of XP, as it would be cheaper
top buy a retail qualifier.

Read carefully from now on, OLD MAN!

 

[Tom]

Listen you old prìck, and read:

"Otherwise, you would need to purchase a 98/ME retail for the new machine to make the Upgrade version a valid one. You don't need to purchase a full install, if you can find a 98/ME disk, it is way cheaper, and perfectly acceptable."

Now FOAD!

 

[Ken Blake]

In

Situation - After installing XP (upgrade) on a previous computer,
(that has has since died) I have installed it on my new machine, not
realizing that the license only applied to one machine.

The license applies to one machine *at a time*. It is perfectly
permisable to move it to another machine, as long as it's a
retail copy, not an OEM one. And since your upgrade is a retail
copy, what you've done is fine.

If it's been over 120 days since last activation, it should
activate on the new nachine over the internet just as it did
before. But if fewer than 120 days, you'll be given an 800 number
to call and activate manually. Even that, however, is quick and
easy, normally under five minutes. Just explain the
circumstances.

Having
obtained a new copy I would like advice on how best to install it.
Given that the machine has been used for display and has programs
that do not relate to my current hardware enviroment, would it be
advisable to format drive C: and then -
A- Put the disk in the drive and wait ?
B- Install windows 98 (upgrade) then install windows XP
C- Do nothing (Put the disk in the drive and wait ?)

I would return the new copy, if possible. Or else sell or give it
away. If you use it, do *not* format first, but boot from the XP
CD and follow the prompts for a clean installation. It will do
the reformat for you.

You can find detailed instructions here:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

 

[Tom]

It is also alll sooooo easy to take things out of context when you were wrong on the thread, just to make poor atempt at making another look bad. If your going to post the gist of context, then post it all, you old fart!

 

[Crusty \Old B@stard\]

Why don't you just say that he has to OWN a "legal", currently unused copy
of Windows 9x to be able to apply it toward an upgrade? Then he doesn't have
to "find" a copy!

Simple, and to the point!

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard


It is also alll sooooo easy to take things out of context when you were
wrong on the thread, just to make poor atempt at making another look bad. If
your going to post the gist of context, then post it all, you old fart!

 

[Tom]

Bullshìt, I already stated that he would need to purchase one or the other, saying it second time is redundant, and sometimes implies that one needs to be reminded like they are stupid, apparently you fall into the latter. I told the OP the need to "purchase" before "find"; I would then suspect he would know to "purchase"

Don't come back because I caught you in another thread with something else you did wrong OK. If you are going to take out of context my words, then you deserve a tongue lashing. At least I read ALL of the software readme and agreement texts before I say what they can or cannot do because I obtained them a certain way! It's too bad you're zealous enough to go after other for not reading, while you violate your reading rules!

 

[nigel.cooper]

Errr...
sorry to interupt with late imformation, but I would like to point out that
I DO have legitimate retail editions of W98 (upgrade) and W95 (new pc
version).
My original post should perhaps of been made clearer - the option of buying
a replacement product key is not avalible outside the USA (I'm UK based) and
reinstalling the product seemed the better option.
Not withstanding the percived piracy issue, all the imformation I have
recived has been very helpful, and I will make use of it as soon as time
allows.
THANK you - Nigel
ps wish I had a speel checker set up

 

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