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Will Denny
Hi
One of the main differences is the support that each offers. With the OEM
version you will have to contact your supplier. MS does not support the OEM
versions.
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Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please reply to the News Groups
| Is there any difference between the OEM and Retail
| versions of Windows Xp Pro?
One of the main differences is the support that each offers. With the OEM
version you will have to contact your supplier. MS does not support the OEM
versions.
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Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please reply to the News Groups
| Is there any difference between the OEM and Retail
| versions of Windows Xp Pro?
G
Guest
Is there any difference as far as the software is
concerned? Will live update function exactly like the
retail version?
concerned? Will live update function exactly like the
retail version?
W
Will Denny
Hi
The software may differ. The OEM version may not have some of the
'extras' - such as the Backup Utility - as the Retail XP Home CD. It's
probably a good idea to contact the supplier you are going to purchase the
XP CD from to see if they can help you as to what is.isn't on the OEM CD.
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Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please reply to the News Groups
| Is there any difference as far as the software is
| concerned? Will live update function exactly like the
| retail version?
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi
| >
| >One of the main differences is the support that each
| offers. With the OEM
| >version you will have to contact your supplier. MS does
| not support the OEM
| >versions.
| >
| >--
| >
| >Will Denny
| >MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
| >Please reply to the News Groups
| >
| >
| >| >| Is there any difference between the OEM and Retail
| >| versions of Windows Xp Pro?
| >
| >.
| >
The software may differ. The OEM version may not have some of the
'extras' - such as the Backup Utility - as the Retail XP Home CD. It's
probably a good idea to contact the supplier you are going to purchase the
XP CD from to see if they can help you as to what is.isn't on the OEM CD.
--
Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please reply to the News Groups
| Is there any difference as far as the software is
| concerned? Will live update function exactly like the
| retail version?
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi
| >
| >One of the main differences is the support that each
| offers. With the OEM
| >version you will have to contact your supplier. MS does
| not support the OEM
| >versions.
| >
| >--
| >
| >Will Denny
| >MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
| >Please reply to the News Groups
| >
| >
| >| >| Is there any difference between the OEM and Retail
| >| versions of Windows Xp Pro?
| >
| >.
| >
O
Opinicus
Is there any difference between the OEM and Retail
versions of Windows Xp Pro?
In terms of function, absolutely none.
The one thing that you can't do with an OEM disk that you
can do with a retail version is upgrade from an earlier
version of Windows. An OEM version can only be installed in
a "virgin" system.
However make sure you get a real OEM version and not a
crippled "restore" disk such as Dell etc supply.
G
Guest
Does the version of Windows XP Professional "Item #E85-
02179" that is available from the Microsoft website come
with SP1 installed on the cd.
02179" that is available from the Microsoft website come
with SP1 installed on the cd.
W
Will Denny
Hi
Have you got a link for that CD? One other difference is that an OEM CD
will only perform a 'Clean' install.
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Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please reply to the News Groups
| Does the version of Windows XP Professional "Item #E85-
| 02179" that is available from the Microsoft website come
| with SP1 installed on the cd.
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi
| >
| >The software may differ. The OEM version may not have
| some of the
| >'extras' - such as the Backup Utility - as the Retail XP
| Home CD. It's
| >probably a good idea to contact the supplier you are
| going to purchase the
| >XP CD from to see if they can help you as to what
| is.isn't on the OEM CD.
| >
| >--
| >
| >Will Denny
| >MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
| >Please reply to the News Groups
| >
| >
| >| >| Is there any difference as far as the software is
| >| concerned? Will live update function exactly like the
| >| retail version?
| >|
| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >Hi
| >| >
| >| >One of the main differences is the support that each
| >| offers. With the OEM
| >| >version you will have to contact your supplier. MS
| does
| >| not support the OEM
| >| >versions.
| >| >
| >| >--
| >| >
| >| >Will Denny
| >| >MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
| >| >Please reply to the News Groups
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >| >| >| Is there any difference between the OEM and Retail
| >| >| versions of Windows Xp Pro?
| >| >
| >| >.
| >| >
| >
| >.
| >
Have you got a link for that CD? One other difference is that an OEM CD
will only perform a 'Clean' install.
--
Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please reply to the News Groups
| Does the version of Windows XP Professional "Item #E85-
| 02179" that is available from the Microsoft website come
| with SP1 installed on the cd.
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi
| >
| >The software may differ. The OEM version may not have
| some of the
| >'extras' - such as the Backup Utility - as the Retail XP
| Home CD. It's
| >probably a good idea to contact the supplier you are
| going to purchase the
| >XP CD from to see if they can help you as to what
| is.isn't on the OEM CD.
| >
| >--
| >
| >Will Denny
| >MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
| >Please reply to the News Groups
| >
| >
| >| >| Is there any difference as far as the software is
| >| concerned? Will live update function exactly like the
| >| retail version?
| >|
| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >Hi
| >| >
| >| >One of the main differences is the support that each
| >| offers. With the OEM
| >| >version you will have to contact your supplier. MS
| does
| >| not support the OEM
| >| >versions.
| >| >
| >| >--
| >| >
| >| >Will Denny
| >| >MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
| >| >Please reply to the News Groups
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >| >| >| Is there any difference between the OEM and Retail
| >| >| versions of Windows Xp Pro?
| >| >
| >| >.
| >| >
| >
| >.
| >
G
Guest
Here is the link to the OEM software I was looking at. Is
it the full version from Microsoft?
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?
description=37-102-143&DEPA=6
it the full version from Microsoft?
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?
description=37-102-143&DEPA=6
G
Guest
If there is any difference between the OEM version from
newegg and the retail version from Microsofts website, I
would rather spend the extra money. But if they are
exactly the same, the 150.00 is better off in my pocket.
newegg and the retail version from Microsofts website, I
would rather spend the extra money. But if they are
exactly the same, the 150.00 is better off in my pocket.
W
Will Denny
Hi
Going on the description - it includes SP1a. However there still may be
differences in the contents between that CD and the Retail version from MS.
Have a look at the following link and click on 'What are the differences
between OEM and retail products':
http://www.newegg.com/app/faq_product.asp?DEPA=0
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Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please reply to the News Groups
| Here is the link to the OEM software I was looking at. Is
| it the full version from Microsoft?
| http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?
| description=37-102-143&DEPA=6
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi
| >
| >Have you got a link for that CD? One other difference
| is that an OEM CD
| >will only perform a 'Clean' install.
| >
| >--
| >
| >Will Denny
| >MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
| >Please reply to the News Groups
| >
| >
| >| >| Does the version of Windows XP Professional "Item #E85-
| >| 02179" that is available from the Microsoft website
| come
| >| with SP1 installed on the cd.
| >|
| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >Hi
| >| >
| >| >The software may differ. The OEM version may not have
| >| some of the
| >| >'extras' - such as the Backup Utility - as the Retail
| XP
| >| Home CD. It's
| >| >probably a good idea to contact the supplier you are
| >| going to purchase the
| >| >XP CD from to see if they can help you as to what
| >| is.isn't on the OEM CD.
| >| >
| >| >--
| >| >
| >| >Will Denny
| >| >MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
| >| >Please reply to the News Groups
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >| >| >| Is there any difference as far as the software is
| >| >| concerned? Will live update function exactly like
| the
| >| >| retail version?
| >| >|
| >| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >| >Hi
| >| >| >
| >| >| >One of the main differences is the support that
| each
| >| >| offers. With the OEM
| >| >| >version you will have to contact your supplier. MS
| >| does
| >| >| not support the OEM
| >| >| >versions.
| >| >| >
| >| >| >--
| >| >| >
| >| >| >Will Denny
| >| >| >MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
| >| >| >Please reply to the News Groups
| >| >| >
| >| >| >
| message
| >| >| >| >| >| >| Is there any difference between the OEM and
| Retail
| >| >| >| versions of Windows Xp Pro?
| >| >| >
| >| >| >.
| >| >| >
| >| >
| >| >.
| >| >
| >
| >.
| >
Going on the description - it includes SP1a. However there still may be
differences in the contents between that CD and the Retail version from MS.
Have a look at the following link and click on 'What are the differences
between OEM and retail products':
http://www.newegg.com/app/faq_product.asp?DEPA=0
--
Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please reply to the News Groups
| Here is the link to the OEM software I was looking at. Is
| it the full version from Microsoft?
| http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?
| description=37-102-143&DEPA=6
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Hi
| >
| >Have you got a link for that CD? One other difference
| is that an OEM CD
| >will only perform a 'Clean' install.
| >
| >--
| >
| >Will Denny
| >MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
| >Please reply to the News Groups
| >
| >
| >| >| Does the version of Windows XP Professional "Item #E85-
| >| 02179" that is available from the Microsoft website
| come
| >| with SP1 installed on the cd.
| >|
| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >Hi
| >| >
| >| >The software may differ. The OEM version may not have
| >| some of the
| >| >'extras' - such as the Backup Utility - as the Retail
| XP
| >| Home CD. It's
| >| >probably a good idea to contact the supplier you are
| >| going to purchase the
| >| >XP CD from to see if they can help you as to what
| >| is.isn't on the OEM CD.
| >| >
| >| >--
| >| >
| >| >Will Denny
| >| >MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
| >| >Please reply to the News Groups
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >| >| >| Is there any difference as far as the software is
| >| >| concerned? Will live update function exactly like
| the
| >| >| retail version?
| >| >|
| >| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >| >Hi
| >| >| >
| >| >| >One of the main differences is the support that
| each
| >| >| offers. With the OEM
| >| >| >version you will have to contact your supplier. MS
| >| does
| >| >| not support the OEM
| >| >| >versions.
| >| >| >
| >| >| >--
| >| >| >
| >| >| >Will Denny
| >| >| >MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
| >| >| >Please reply to the News Groups
| >| >| >
| >| >| >
| message
| >| >| >| >| >| >| Is there any difference between the OEM and
| Retail
| >| >| >| versions of Windows Xp Pro?
| >| >| >
| >| >| >.
| >| >| >
| >| >
| >| >.
| >| >
| >
| >.
| >
E
Eric McG
Keep this in mind also:
There's that little thing in the licensing about the OEM version having only one
mate in its life. It seems that once an OEM version is mated to a system and
activated...it cannot be transferred to another system, even if the system is
hit by lightning....the OS is as good as toast also.
....But if you get a retail version...it could be transferred to a new
replacement system. The license for a retail version of Windows XP is in
perpetuity. You get to use Windows XP forever, if you so choose.
There's that little thing in the licensing about the OEM version having only one
mate in its life. It seems that once an OEM version is mated to a system and
activated...it cannot be transferred to another system, even if the system is
hit by lightning....the OS is as good as toast also.
....But if you get a retail version...it could be transferred to a new
replacement system. The license for a retail version of Windows XP is in
perpetuity. You get to use Windows XP forever, if you so choose.
B
Bruce Chambers
Greetings --
There are some very important reasons that an OEM license costs so
much less than a retail license. OEM licenses are very limited:
1) OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally
a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft
has greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are
_permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An
OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another
computer under any circumstances. This is the main reason some people
avoid OEM versions; if the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even
stolen), you cannot re-use your OEM license on a new PC. The only
legitimate way to transfer the ownership of an OEM license is to
transfer ownership of the entire PC.
2) Microsoft provides no free support for OEM versions. If you
have any problems that require outside assistance, your only recourse
is to contact the manufacturer/builder of the PC or the vendor of the
OEM license. This would include such issues as lost a Product Key or
replacing damaged installation media. (Microsoft does make allowances
for those instances when you can prove that the OEM has gone out of
business.) This doesn't mean that you can't download patches and
service packs from Microsoft -- just no free telephone or email
support for problems with the OS.
3) An OEM CD cannot be used to perform an upgrade of an earlier
OS, as it was designed to be installed _only_ upon an empty hard
drive. It can still be used to perform a repair installation (a.k.a.
an in-place upgrade) of an existing WinXP installation.
4) If the OEM CD was designed by a specific manufacturer, such as
eMachines, Sony, Dell, Gateway, etc., it will most likely only install
on the same brand of PC, as an additional anti-piracy feature.
Further, such CDs are severely customized to contain only the minimum
of device drivers, and a lot of extra nonsense, that the manufacturer
feels necessary for the specific model of PC for which the CD was
designed. (To be honest, such CDs should _not_ be available on the
open market; but, if you're shopping someplace like eBay, swap meets,
or computer fairs, there's often no telling what you're buying until
it's too late.) The "generic" OEM CDs, such as are manufactured by
Microsoft and sold to small systems builders, don't have this
particular problem, though, and are pretty much the same as their
retail counterparts, apart from the licensing, support, and upgrading
restrictions.
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH
There are some very important reasons that an OEM license costs so
much less than a retail license. OEM licenses are very limited:
1) OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally
a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft
has greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are
_permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An
OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another
computer under any circumstances. This is the main reason some people
avoid OEM versions; if the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even
stolen), you cannot re-use your OEM license on a new PC. The only
legitimate way to transfer the ownership of an OEM license is to
transfer ownership of the entire PC.
2) Microsoft provides no free support for OEM versions. If you
have any problems that require outside assistance, your only recourse
is to contact the manufacturer/builder of the PC or the vendor of the
OEM license. This would include such issues as lost a Product Key or
replacing damaged installation media. (Microsoft does make allowances
for those instances when you can prove that the OEM has gone out of
business.) This doesn't mean that you can't download patches and
service packs from Microsoft -- just no free telephone or email
support for problems with the OS.
3) An OEM CD cannot be used to perform an upgrade of an earlier
OS, as it was designed to be installed _only_ upon an empty hard
drive. It can still be used to perform a repair installation (a.k.a.
an in-place upgrade) of an existing WinXP installation.
4) If the OEM CD was designed by a specific manufacturer, such as
eMachines, Sony, Dell, Gateway, etc., it will most likely only install
on the same brand of PC, as an additional anti-piracy feature.
Further, such CDs are severely customized to contain only the minimum
of device drivers, and a lot of extra nonsense, that the manufacturer
feels necessary for the specific model of PC for which the CD was
designed. (To be honest, such CDs should _not_ be available on the
open market; but, if you're shopping someplace like eBay, swap meets,
or computer fairs, there's often no telling what you're buying until
it's too late.) The "generic" OEM CDs, such as are manufactured by
Microsoft and sold to small systems builders, don't have this
particular problem, though, and are pretty much the same as their
retail counterparts, apart from the licensing, support, and upgrading
restrictions.
Bruce Chambers
--
Help us help you:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH
A
Alex Nichol
Is there any difference between the OEM and Retail
versions of Windows Xp Pro?
OEM will only do a clean install
OEM gets no support from Microsoft - it is the responsibility of the OEM
vendor. Judge how much you can get
OEM may leave out some minor facilities, eg Backup in XP Home. which is
usually unimportant
And the important one - the OEM license is solely to the machine it is
first installed on, and dies with it. Unlike the retail license it may
*not* be transferred to a successor machine
K
Ken Blake, MVP
In (e-mail address removed)
The OEM version can only legally be sold with hardware, although
these days, any piece of hardware, even a power cord, qualifies.
Although if you get a complete generic OEM version, it contains
the same software, it has the following disadvantages as compared
with the retail version:
1. Its license ties it permanently to the first computer it's
installed on. It can never legally be moved to another computer,
sold, or given away.
2. It can only do a clean installation, not an upgrade.
3. Microsoft provides no support for OEM versions. You can't call
them with a problem, but instead have to get any needed support
from your OEM; that support may range anywhere between good and
non-existent. Or you can get support elsewhere, such as in these
newsgroups.
Is there any difference between the OEM and Retail
versions of Windows Xp Pro?
The OEM version can only legally be sold with hardware, although
these days, any piece of hardware, even a power cord, qualifies.
Although if you get a complete generic OEM version, it contains
the same software, it has the following disadvantages as compared
with the retail version:
1. Its license ties it permanently to the first computer it's
installed on. It can never legally be moved to another computer,
sold, or given away.
2. It can only do a clean installation, not an upgrade.
3. Microsoft provides no support for OEM versions. You can't call
them with a problem, but instead have to get any needed support
from your OEM; that support may range anywhere between good and
non-existent. Or you can get support elsewhere, such as in these
newsgroups.
F
Frank
BULL
Eric McG said:Keep this in mind also:
There's that little thing in the licensing about the OEM version having only one
mate in its life. It seems that once an OEM version is mated to a system and
activated...it cannot be transferred to another system, even if the system is
hit by lightning....the OS is as good as toast also.
...But if you get a retail version...it could be transferred to a new
replacement system. The license for a retail version of Windows XP is in
perpetuity. You get to use Windows XP forever, if you so choose.
E
Eric McG
Do some research, start by reading this:
XP OEM Clarification
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/oemeula.htm
Report back if you find something different, pertaining to Windows XP .
--
Hope this helps..Reply in newsgroup only.
Eric McGillicudy
Where ignorance is bliss,
'Tis folly to be wise.
Thomas Gray (1716-71), English poet.
XP OEM Clarification
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/oemeula.htm
Report back if you find something different, pertaining to Windows XP .
--
Hope this helps..Reply in newsgroup only.
Eric McGillicudy
Where ignorance is bliss,
'Tis folly to be wise.
Thomas Gray (1716-71), English poet.
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