Windows XP Home Installation Problem

G

Guest

I had a devil of a time with a new Windows XP Home disk. I want to clean
install XP Home into my C partition drive. This partition currently contains
an old and decrepit Windows XP Pro system. I tried booting into Setup with
the XP Home disk but got Stop errors and I eventually corrupted a system file
[vgaoem.fon] which kept me from being able to boot into my current Windows XP
Pro system. When I returned to try and run Setup Repair from the XP Home
disk, I kept getting Session 3 Initialization Failures. I then tried it with
the old XP Pro disk and made it to the repair screen. That helped me restore
the corrupted system file. I would like to now install a clean copy of
Windows XP Home on my current C:\ partition. So why didn’t XP Home work for a
Setup in my old system? Think I can use it now? Any advice appreciated.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA
 
G

Guest

Try installing a xp cd that gets you to recovery,press enter key for the
password,
in recovery type:DiskPart In DiskPart,delete the partitions,then create
one,then
press Esc key,then type:FORMAT C: /FS:ntfs When its thru,type:EXIT As the
computer restarts,enter BIOS,replace to xp disk to install xp if
diffrent,boot to
xp cd,at info page select,install xp,new copy.
 
D

DL

You booted useing the xphome cd?
Deleted partitions?
Created partitions/formated/installed?
 
G

Guest

Nope, did none of that. I could not boot from the Home CD although I could
get into Setup from an old Windows XP Pro CD. I tried a repair which ended in
disaster; the C drive at least is hosed; I'm not sure about a second
partition on my hard drive which I would like to keep. But I do have the info
to delete the C partition and create a new one and see if that works.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA

DL said:
You booted useing the xphome cd?
Deleted partitions?
Created partitions/formated/installed?

Neal Lavon said:
I had a devil of a time with a new Windows XP Home disk. I want to clean
install XP Home into my C partition drive. This partition currently contains
an old and decrepit Windows XP Pro system. I tried booting into Setup with
the XP Home disk but got Stop errors and I eventually corrupted a system file
[vgaoem.fon] which kept me from being able to boot into my current Windows XP
Pro system. When I returned to try and run Setup Repair from the XP Home
disk, I kept getting Session 3 Initialization Failures. I then tried it with
the old XP Pro disk and made it to the repair screen. That helped me restore
the corrupted system file. I would like to now install a clean copy of
Windows XP Home on my current C:\ partition. So why didn't XP Home work for a
Setup in my old system? Think I can use it now? Any advice appreciated.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA
 
D

DL

All winxp cd's are bootable, you may have to ammend the boot order in the
bios.
I assume its a retail copy of winxp home, and not an OEM copy that is likely
tied to a specific PC

Neal Lavon said:
Nope, did none of that. I could not boot from the Home CD although I could
get into Setup from an old Windows XP Pro CD. I tried a repair which ended in
disaster; the C drive at least is hosed; I'm not sure about a second
partition on my hard drive which I would like to keep. But I do have the info
to delete the C partition and create a new one and see if that works.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA

DL said:
You booted useing the xphome cd?
Deleted partitions?
Created partitions/formated/installed?

Neal Lavon said:
I had a devil of a time with a new Windows XP Home disk. I want to clean
install XP Home into my C partition drive. This partition currently contains
an old and decrepit Windows XP Pro system. I tried booting into Setup with
the XP Home disk but got Stop errors and I eventually corrupted a
system
file
[vgaoem.fon] which kept me from being able to boot into my current
Windows
XP
Pro system. When I returned to try and run Setup Repair from the XP Home
disk, I kept getting Session 3 Initialization Failures. I then tried
it
with
the old XP Pro disk and made it to the repair screen. That helped me restore
the corrupted system file. I would like to now install a clean copy of
Windows XP Home on my current C:\ partition. So why didn't XP Home
work
for a
Setup in my old system? Think I can use it now? Any advice appreciated.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA
 
G

Guest

Yes, it's a retail copy bought at Best Buy. I wonder if it's a bad disk. I
should check it with another computer but I don't want to mess up anyone
else's system the way mine got messed up going through Setup.

Neal

DL said:
All winxp cd's are bootable, you may have to ammend the boot order in the
bios.
I assume its a retail copy of winxp home, and not an OEM copy that is likely
tied to a specific PC

Neal Lavon said:
Nope, did none of that. I could not boot from the Home CD although I could
get into Setup from an old Windows XP Pro CD. I tried a repair which ended in
disaster; the C drive at least is hosed; I'm not sure about a second
partition on my hard drive which I would like to keep. But I do have the info
to delete the C partition and create a new one and see if that works.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA

DL said:
You booted useing the xphome cd?
Deleted partitions?
Created partitions/formated/installed?

I had a devil of a time with a new Windows XP Home disk. I want to clean
install XP Home into my C partition drive. This partition currently
contains
an old and decrepit Windows XP Pro system. I tried booting into Setup with
the XP Home disk but got Stop errors and I eventually corrupted a system
file
[vgaoem.fon] which kept me from being able to boot into my current Windows
XP
Pro system. When I returned to try and run Setup Repair from the XP Home
disk, I kept getting Session 3 Initialization Failures. I then tried it
with
the old XP Pro disk and made it to the repair screen. That helped me
restore
the corrupted system file. I would like to now install a clean copy of
Windows XP Home on my current C:\ partition. So why didn't XP Home work
for a
Setup in my old system? Think I can use it now? Any advice appreciated.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA
 
D

DL

If the cd boots on another PC simply cancel setup

Lets check this, with the homecd in the drive, you restart the PC and?

Neal Lavon said:
Yes, it's a retail copy bought at Best Buy. I wonder if it's a bad disk. I
should check it with another computer but I don't want to mess up anyone
else's system the way mine got messed up going through Setup.

Neal

DL said:
All winxp cd's are bootable, you may have to ammend the boot order in the
bios.
I assume its a retail copy of winxp home, and not an OEM copy that is likely
tied to a specific PC

Neal Lavon said:
Nope, did none of that. I could not boot from the Home CD although I could
get into Setup from an old Windows XP Pro CD. I tried a repair which
ended
in
disaster; the C drive at least is hosed; I'm not sure about a second
partition on my hard drive which I would like to keep. But I do have
the
info
to delete the C partition and create a new one and see if that works.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA

:

You booted useing the xphome cd?
Deleted partitions?
Created partitions/formated/installed?

I had a devil of a time with a new Windows XP Home disk. I want to clean
install XP Home into my C partition drive. This partition currently
contains
an old and decrepit Windows XP Pro system. I tried booting into
Setup
with
the XP Home disk but got Stop errors and I eventually corrupted a system
file
[vgaoem.fon] which kept me from being able to boot into my current Windows
XP
Pro system. When I returned to try and run Setup Repair from the
XP
Home
disk, I kept getting Session 3 Initialization Failures. I then
tried
it
with
the old XP Pro disk and made it to the repair screen. That helped me
restore
the corrupted system file. I would like to now install a clean copy of
Windows XP Home on my current C:\ partition. So why didn't XP Home work
for a
Setup in my old system? Think I can use it now? Any advice appreciated.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA
 
G

Guest

I set my boot order in the AMI BIOS on an Asus P5GD1. It boots from the CD; I
F6 at the proper place to load an ITE 8212F RAID controller which Asus Tech
Support says is necessary. The Setup Program starts and gets about to the end
when it blinks on the screen, comes back up, I hear the CD winding down and I
get a Session3_Initialization_Failure. If I don't load the RAID controllers,
I get 0x0000007B, 0xF7C8263C, 0xC0000034, 0x000000, 0x0000000 errors. That is
with the Windows XP Home CD.

With the Windows XP Pro disk, I boot from the CD, F6 for the controllers,
and it will make it to the Setup screen without the
Session3_Initialization_Failure notification.

That's it, plain and simple. Tonight, I am going to try and run a diagnostic
on the hard drives (I have two Maxtors a 250 GB drive in two partitions, C
and G) and an 80 GB slaved to it which is a D drive. The opticals are a
Plextor 708A DVD writer Master with a Lite On 527T 52x CD-ROM.

I think this is somehow related to the motherboard and its odd settings;
there is a Primary IDE for the hard drives and a Secondary IDE RAID
controller for opticals (or hard drives). I didn't set it up and whoever did
may have tweaked something but I am puzzled as to why the Home XP CD which is
brand spanking new does not seem to make it to Setup but the old Windows XP
Pro does.

If I use the XP Pro disk to get to the Repair console and delete the C
drive, then reformat it NTFS (like it is now) and switch disks at reboot,
will that help? I'm at the end of my rope. Thanks for the interest, by the
way, I appreciate it.

Neal Lavon

DL said:
If the cd boots on another PC simply cancel setup

Lets check this, with the homecd in the drive, you restart the PC and?

Neal Lavon said:
Yes, it's a retail copy bought at Best Buy. I wonder if it's a bad disk. I
should check it with another computer but I don't want to mess up anyone
else's system the way mine got messed up going through Setup.

Neal

DL said:
All winxp cd's are bootable, you may have to ammend the boot order in the
bios.
I assume its a retail copy of winxp home, and not an OEM copy that is likely
tied to a specific PC

Nope, did none of that. I could not boot from the Home CD although I could
get into Setup from an old Windows XP Pro CD. I tried a repair which ended
in
disaster; the C drive at least is hosed; I'm not sure about a second
partition on my hard drive which I would like to keep. But I do have the
info
to delete the C partition and create a new one and see if that works.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA

:

You booted useing the xphome cd?
Deleted partitions?
Created partitions/formated/installed?

I had a devil of a time with a new Windows XP Home disk. I want to
clean
install XP Home into my C partition drive. This partition currently
contains
an old and decrepit Windows XP Pro system. I tried booting into Setup
with
the XP Home disk but got Stop errors and I eventually corrupted a
system
file
[vgaoem.fon] which kept me from being able to boot into my current
Windows
XP
Pro system. When I returned to try and run Setup Repair from the XP
Home
disk, I kept getting Session 3 Initialization Failures. I then tried
it
with
the old XP Pro disk and made it to the repair screen. That helped me
restore
the corrupted system file. I would like to now install a clean copy of
Windows XP Home on my current C:\ partition. So why didn't XP Home
work
for a
Setup in my old system? Think I can use it now? Any advice
appreciated.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA
 
D

DL

0x0000007B indicates an inaccessible boot device

After using hd checking utility, if it OK's your hd's.
Create a new raid/sata floppy - use a new floppy, newly formated.

Then try this;
Disconnect all extra devices. ie use monitor/vid card, mouse,keybd, single
cd drive, single hd, single ram stick
Enter the BIOS, set to defaults, other than boot from cd first
Save
Boot with xphome cd
Delete any partitions
Create Partition/s
Format/Install use F6 option to install raid/sata drivers

Hopefully all will go well, if so connect the extra hardware one at a time,
rebooting after each install
You will need to install mobo chipset drivers, from the mobo cd, or manu
site and vid drivers.
Use only manu.site drivers, NOT winupdate.

Neal Lavon said:
I set my boot order in the AMI BIOS on an Asus P5GD1. It boots from the CD; I
F6 at the proper place to load an ITE 8212F RAID controller which Asus Tech
Support says is necessary. The Setup Program starts and gets about to the end
when it blinks on the screen, comes back up, I hear the CD winding down and I
get a Session3_Initialization_Failure. If I don't load the RAID controllers,
I get 0x0000007B, 0xF7C8263C, 0xC0000034, 0x000000, 0x0000000 errors. That is
with the Windows XP Home CD.

With the Windows XP Pro disk, I boot from the CD, F6 for the controllers,
and it will make it to the Setup screen without the
Session3_Initialization_Failure notification.

That's it, plain and simple. Tonight, I am going to try and run a diagnostic
on the hard drives (I have two Maxtors a 250 GB drive in two partitions, C
and G) and an 80 GB slaved to it which is a D drive. The opticals are a
Plextor 708A DVD writer Master with a Lite On 527T 52x CD-ROM.

I think this is somehow related to the motherboard and its odd settings;
there is a Primary IDE for the hard drives and a Secondary IDE RAID
controller for opticals (or hard drives). I didn't set it up and whoever did
may have tweaked something but I am puzzled as to why the Home XP CD which is
brand spanking new does not seem to make it to Setup but the old Windows XP
Pro does.

If I use the XP Pro disk to get to the Repair console and delete the C
drive, then reformat it NTFS (like it is now) and switch disks at reboot,
will that help? I'm at the end of my rope. Thanks for the interest, by the
way, I appreciate it.

Neal Lavon

DL said:
If the cd boots on another PC simply cancel setup

Lets check this, with the homecd in the drive, you restart the PC and?

Neal Lavon said:
Yes, it's a retail copy bought at Best Buy. I wonder if it's a bad disk. I
should check it with another computer but I don't want to mess up anyone
else's system the way mine got messed up going through Setup.

Neal

:

All winxp cd's are bootable, you may have to ammend the boot order
in
the
bios.
I assume its a retail copy of winxp home, and not an OEM copy that
is
likely
tied to a specific PC

Nope, did none of that. I could not boot from the Home CD although
I
could
get into Setup from an old Windows XP Pro CD. I tried a repair
which
ended
in
disaster; the C drive at least is hosed; I'm not sure about a second
partition on my hard drive which I would like to keep. But I do
have
the
info
to delete the C partition and create a new one and see if that works.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA

:

You booted useing the xphome cd?
Deleted partitions?
Created partitions/formated/installed?

I had a devil of a time with a new Windows XP Home disk. I want to
clean
install XP Home into my C partition drive. This partition currently
contains
an old and decrepit Windows XP Pro system. I tried booting
into
Setup
with
the XP Home disk but got Stop errors and I eventually corrupted a
system
file
[vgaoem.fon] which kept me from being able to boot into my current
Windows
XP
Pro system. When I returned to try and run Setup Repair from
the
XP
Home
disk, I kept getting Session 3 Initialization Failures. I then tried
it
with
the old XP Pro disk and made it to the repair screen. That
helped
me
restore
the corrupted system file. I would like to now install a clean copy of
Windows XP Home on my current C:\ partition. So why didn't XP Home
work
for a
Setup in my old system? Think I can use it now? Any advice
appreciated.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA
 
G

Guest

Aarg...now I can't even get the CD ROM as a bootable option in the BIOS. I
can read it in what remains of Windows but it is no longer a boot option.
Grrr.. I do have some floppy setup disks and a program checker so I can try
that. What next? Besides throwing the whole thing out the window...

Neal Lavon

DL said:
0x0000007B indicates an inaccessible boot device

After using hd checking utility, if it OK's your hd's.
Create a new raid/sata floppy - use a new floppy, newly formated.

Then try this;
Disconnect all extra devices. ie use monitor/vid card, mouse,keybd, single
cd drive, single hd, single ram stick
Enter the BIOS, set to defaults, other than boot from cd first
Save
Boot with xphome cd
Delete any partitions
Create Partition/s
Format/Install use F6 option to install raid/sata drivers

Hopefully all will go well, if so connect the extra hardware one at a time,
rebooting after each install
You will need to install mobo chipset drivers, from the mobo cd, or manu
site and vid drivers.
Use only manu.site drivers, NOT winupdate.

Neal Lavon said:
I set my boot order in the AMI BIOS on an Asus P5GD1. It boots from the CD; I
F6 at the proper place to load an ITE 8212F RAID controller which Asus Tech
Support says is necessary. The Setup Program starts and gets about to the end
when it blinks on the screen, comes back up, I hear the CD winding down and I
get a Session3_Initialization_Failure. If I don't load the RAID controllers,
I get 0x0000007B, 0xF7C8263C, 0xC0000034, 0x000000, 0x0000000 errors. That is
with the Windows XP Home CD.

With the Windows XP Pro disk, I boot from the CD, F6 for the controllers,
and it will make it to the Setup screen without the
Session3_Initialization_Failure notification.

That's it, plain and simple. Tonight, I am going to try and run a diagnostic
on the hard drives (I have two Maxtors a 250 GB drive in two partitions, C
and G) and an 80 GB slaved to it which is a D drive. The opticals are a
Plextor 708A DVD writer Master with a Lite On 527T 52x CD-ROM.

I think this is somehow related to the motherboard and its odd settings;
there is a Primary IDE for the hard drives and a Secondary IDE RAID
controller for opticals (or hard drives). I didn't set it up and whoever did
may have tweaked something but I am puzzled as to why the Home XP CD which is
brand spanking new does not seem to make it to Setup but the old Windows XP
Pro does.

If I use the XP Pro disk to get to the Repair console and delete the C
drive, then reformat it NTFS (like it is now) and switch disks at reboot,
will that help? I'm at the end of my rope. Thanks for the interest, by the
way, I appreciate it.

Neal Lavon

DL said:
If the cd boots on another PC simply cancel setup

Lets check this, with the homecd in the drive, you restart the PC and?

Yes, it's a retail copy bought at Best Buy. I wonder if it's a bad disk. I
should check it with another computer but I don't want to mess up anyone
else's system the way mine got messed up going through Setup.

Neal

:

All winxp cd's are bootable, you may have to ammend the boot order in
the
bios.
I assume its a retail copy of winxp home, and not an OEM copy that is
likely
tied to a specific PC

Nope, did none of that. I could not boot from the Home CD although I
could
get into Setup from an old Windows XP Pro CD. I tried a repair which
ended
in
disaster; the C drive at least is hosed; I'm not sure about a second
partition on my hard drive which I would like to keep. But I do have
the
info
to delete the C partition and create a new one and see if that works.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA

:

You booted useing the xphome cd?
Deleted partitions?
Created partitions/formated/installed?

I had a devil of a time with a new Windows XP Home disk. I want to
clean
install XP Home into my C partition drive. This partition
currently
contains
an old and decrepit Windows XP Pro system. I tried booting into
Setup
with
the XP Home disk but got Stop errors and I eventually corrupted a
system
file
[vgaoem.fon] which kept me from being able to boot into my current
Windows
XP
Pro system. When I returned to try and run Setup Repair from the
XP
Home
disk, I kept getting Session 3 Initialization Failures. I then
tried
it
with
the old XP Pro disk and made it to the repair screen. That helped
me
restore
the corrupted system file. I would like to now install a clean
copy of
Windows XP Home on my current C:\ partition. So why didn't XP Home
work
for a
Setup in my old system? Think I can use it now? Any advice
appreciated.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA
 
G

Guest

Just tested the hard drive with Maxtor's floppy test and the hard drive with
C is failing. Guess that's it?

Neal Lavon

Neal Lavon said:
Aarg...now I can't even get the CD ROM as a bootable option in the BIOS. I
can read it in what remains of Windows but it is no longer a boot option.
Grrr.. I do have some floppy setup disks and a program checker so I can try
that. What next? Besides throwing the whole thing out the window...

Neal Lavon

DL said:
0x0000007B indicates an inaccessible boot device

After using hd checking utility, if it OK's your hd's.
Create a new raid/sata floppy - use a new floppy, newly formated.

Then try this;
Disconnect all extra devices. ie use monitor/vid card, mouse,keybd, single
cd drive, single hd, single ram stick
Enter the BIOS, set to defaults, other than boot from cd first
Save
Boot with xphome cd
Delete any partitions
Create Partition/s
Format/Install use F6 option to install raid/sata drivers

Hopefully all will go well, if so connect the extra hardware one at a time,
rebooting after each install
You will need to install mobo chipset drivers, from the mobo cd, or manu
site and vid drivers.
Use only manu.site drivers, NOT winupdate.

Neal Lavon said:
I set my boot order in the AMI BIOS on an Asus P5GD1. It boots from the CD; I
F6 at the proper place to load an ITE 8212F RAID controller which Asus Tech
Support says is necessary. The Setup Program starts and gets about to the end
when it blinks on the screen, comes back up, I hear the CD winding down and I
get a Session3_Initialization_Failure. If I don't load the RAID controllers,
I get 0x0000007B, 0xF7C8263C, 0xC0000034, 0x000000, 0x0000000 errors. That is
with the Windows XP Home CD.

With the Windows XP Pro disk, I boot from the CD, F6 for the controllers,
and it will make it to the Setup screen without the
Session3_Initialization_Failure notification.

That's it, plain and simple. Tonight, I am going to try and run a diagnostic
on the hard drives (I have two Maxtors a 250 GB drive in two partitions, C
and G) and an 80 GB slaved to it which is a D drive. The opticals are a
Plextor 708A DVD writer Master with a Lite On 527T 52x CD-ROM.

I think this is somehow related to the motherboard and its odd settings;
there is a Primary IDE for the hard drives and a Secondary IDE RAID
controller for opticals (or hard drives). I didn't set it up and whoever did
may have tweaked something but I am puzzled as to why the Home XP CD which is
brand spanking new does not seem to make it to Setup but the old Windows XP
Pro does.

If I use the XP Pro disk to get to the Repair console and delete the C
drive, then reformat it NTFS (like it is now) and switch disks at reboot,
will that help? I'm at the end of my rope. Thanks for the interest, by the
way, I appreciate it.

Neal Lavon

:

If the cd boots on another PC simply cancel setup

Lets check this, with the homecd in the drive, you restart the PC and?

Yes, it's a retail copy bought at Best Buy. I wonder if it's a bad disk. I
should check it with another computer but I don't want to mess up anyone
else's system the way mine got messed up going through Setup.

Neal

:

All winxp cd's are bootable, you may have to ammend the boot order in
the
bios.
I assume its a retail copy of winxp home, and not an OEM copy that is
likely
tied to a specific PC

Nope, did none of that. I could not boot from the Home CD although I
could
get into Setup from an old Windows XP Pro CD. I tried a repair which
ended
in
disaster; the C drive at least is hosed; I'm not sure about a second
partition on my hard drive which I would like to keep. But I do have
the
info
to delete the C partition and create a new one and see if that works.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA

:

You booted useing the xphome cd?
Deleted partitions?
Created partitions/formated/installed?

I had a devil of a time with a new Windows XP Home disk. I want to
clean
install XP Home into my C partition drive. This partition
currently
contains
an old and decrepit Windows XP Pro system. I tried booting into
Setup
with
the XP Home disk but got Stop errors and I eventually corrupted a
system
file
[vgaoem.fon] which kept me from being able to boot into my current
Windows
XP
Pro system. When I returned to try and run Setup Repair from the
XP
Home
disk, I kept getting Session 3 Initialization Failures. I then
tried
it
with
the old XP Pro disk and made it to the repair screen. That helped
me
restore
the corrupted system file. I would like to now install a clean
copy of
Windows XP Home on my current C:\ partition. So why didn't XP Home
work
for a
Setup in my old system? Think I can use it now? Any advice
appreciated.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA
 
D

DL

Yes thats it.
A new/clean install of win to a new hd, ensure all other hd's are
disconnected, connect only a single cd.
After installation and reboot, connect the failed hd reboot.
You *may* be able to see the other/failed hd and copy data though the sys
may not boot if so its a terminal hd prob.
If you are able to recover data, after doing so. Shutdown disconnect the
prob hd, reboot.
Shutdown, connect any other hd's reboot.
Shutdown, connect any other cd drives, reboot.
NB all the shutdown / connect devices is just to ensure you dont get 'odd'
drive letters/designations


Neal Lavon said:
Just tested the hard drive with Maxtor's floppy test and the hard drive with
C is failing. Guess that's it?

Neal Lavon

Neal Lavon said:
Aarg...now I can't even get the CD ROM as a bootable option in the BIOS. I
can read it in what remains of Windows but it is no longer a boot option.
Grrr.. I do have some floppy setup disks and a program checker so I can try
that. What next? Besides throwing the whole thing out the window...

Neal Lavon

DL said:
0x0000007B indicates an inaccessible boot device

After using hd checking utility, if it OK's your hd's.
Create a new raid/sata floppy - use a new floppy, newly formated.

Then try this;
Disconnect all extra devices. ie use monitor/vid card, mouse,keybd, single
cd drive, single hd, single ram stick
Enter the BIOS, set to defaults, other than boot from cd first
Save
Boot with xphome cd
Delete any partitions
Create Partition/s
Format/Install use F6 option to install raid/sata drivers

Hopefully all will go well, if so connect the extra hardware one at a time,
rebooting after each install
You will need to install mobo chipset drivers, from the mobo cd, or manu
site and vid drivers.
Use only manu.site drivers, NOT winupdate.

I set my boot order in the AMI BIOS on an Asus P5GD1. It boots from the
CD; I
F6 at the proper place to load an ITE 8212F RAID controller which Asus
Tech
Support says is necessary. The Setup Program starts and gets about to the
end
when it blinks on the screen, comes back up, I hear the CD winding down
and I
get a Session3_Initialization_Failure. If I don't load the RAID
controllers,
I get 0x0000007B, 0xF7C8263C, 0xC0000034, 0x000000, 0x0000000 errors. That
is
with the Windows XP Home CD.

With the Windows XP Pro disk, I boot from the CD, F6 for the controllers,
and it will make it to the Setup screen without the
Session3_Initialization_Failure notification.

That's it, plain and simple. Tonight, I am going to try and run a
diagnostic
on the hard drives (I have two Maxtors a 250 GB drive in two partitions, C
and G) and an 80 GB slaved to it which is a D drive. The opticals are a
Plextor 708A DVD writer Master with a Lite On 527T 52x CD-ROM.

I think this is somehow related to the motherboard and its odd settings;
there is a Primary IDE for the hard drives and a Secondary IDE RAID
controller for opticals (or hard drives). I didn't set it up and whoever
did
may have tweaked something but I am puzzled as to why the Home XP CD which
is
brand spanking new does not seem to make it to Setup but the old Windows
XP
Pro does.

If I use the XP Pro disk to get to the Repair console and delete the C
drive, then reformat it NTFS (like it is now) and switch disks at reboot,
will that help? I'm at the end of my rope. Thanks for the interest, by the
way, I appreciate it.

Neal Lavon

:

If the cd boots on another PC simply cancel setup

Lets check this, with the homecd in the drive, you restart the PC and?

Yes, it's a retail copy bought at Best Buy. I wonder if it's a bad
disk. I
should check it with another computer but I don't want to mess up
anyone
else's system the way mine got messed up going through Setup.

Neal

:

All winxp cd's are bootable, you may have to ammend the boot order
in
the
bios.
I assume its a retail copy of winxp home, and not an OEM copy that
is
likely
tied to a specific PC

Nope, did none of that. I could not boot from the Home CD although
I
could
get into Setup from an old Windows XP Pro CD. I tried a repair
which
ended
in
disaster; the C drive at least is hosed; I'm not sure about a
second
partition on my hard drive which I would like to keep. But I do
have
the
info
to delete the C partition and create a new one and see if that
works.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA

:

You booted useing the xphome cd?
Deleted partitions?
Created partitions/formated/installed?

message
I had a devil of a time with a new Windows XP Home disk. I
want to
clean
install XP Home into my C partition drive. This partition
currently
contains
an old and decrepit Windows XP Pro system. I tried booting
into
Setup
with
the XP Home disk but got Stop errors and I eventually
corrupted a
system
file
[vgaoem.fon] which kept me from being able to boot into my
current
Windows
XP
Pro system. When I returned to try and run Setup Repair from
the
XP
Home
disk, I kept getting Session 3 Initialization Failures. I then
tried
it
with
the old XP Pro disk and made it to the repair screen. That
helped
me
restore
the corrupted system file. I would like to now install a clean
copy of
Windows XP Home on my current C:\ partition. So why didn't XP
Home
work
for a
Setup in my old system? Think I can use it now? Any advice
appreciated.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA
 
G

Guest

Well, at least I know what I'm dealing with now. Just a couple of quick
questions:

a) I'm considering getting an SATA hard drive because the motherboard has a
connection for it (several, actually). I assume a SATA and PATA hard drive
can co-exist peacefully under Windows XP?

b) I will likely have one PATA hard drive connected through the Primary IDE
connector on the motherboard. Can it be connected with a master jumper and an
80-pin cable leaving the slave connector unhooked or do I have to get a cable
with only one connector?

Any thoughts appreciated (as is everything else).

Neal Lavon

DL said:
Yes thats it.
A new/clean install of win to a new hd, ensure all other hd's are
disconnected, connect only a single cd.
After installation and reboot, connect the failed hd reboot.
You *may* be able to see the other/failed hd and copy data though the sys
may not boot if so its a terminal hd prob.
If you are able to recover data, after doing so. Shutdown disconnect the
prob hd, reboot.
Shutdown, connect any other hd's reboot.
Shutdown, connect any other cd drives, reboot.
NB all the shutdown / connect devices is just to ensure you dont get 'odd'
drive letters/designations


Neal Lavon said:
Just tested the hard drive with Maxtor's floppy test and the hard drive with
C is failing. Guess that's it?

Neal Lavon

Neal Lavon said:
Aarg...now I can't even get the CD ROM as a bootable option in the BIOS. I
can read it in what remains of Windows but it is no longer a boot option.
Grrr.. I do have some floppy setup disks and a program checker so I can try
that. What next? Besides throwing the whole thing out the window...

Neal Lavon

:

0x0000007B indicates an inaccessible boot device

After using hd checking utility, if it OK's your hd's.
Create a new raid/sata floppy - use a new floppy, newly formated.

Then try this;
Disconnect all extra devices. ie use monitor/vid card, mouse,keybd, single
cd drive, single hd, single ram stick
Enter the BIOS, set to defaults, other than boot from cd first
Save
Boot with xphome cd
Delete any partitions
Create Partition/s
Format/Install use F6 option to install raid/sata drivers

Hopefully all will go well, if so connect the extra hardware one at a time,
rebooting after each install
You will need to install mobo chipset drivers, from the mobo cd, or manu
site and vid drivers.
Use only manu.site drivers, NOT winupdate.

I set my boot order in the AMI BIOS on an Asus P5GD1. It boots from the
CD; I
F6 at the proper place to load an ITE 8212F RAID controller which Asus
Tech
Support says is necessary. The Setup Program starts and gets about to the
end
when it blinks on the screen, comes back up, I hear the CD winding down
and I
get a Session3_Initialization_Failure. If I don't load the RAID
controllers,
I get 0x0000007B, 0xF7C8263C, 0xC0000034, 0x000000, 0x0000000 errors. That
is
with the Windows XP Home CD.

With the Windows XP Pro disk, I boot from the CD, F6 for the controllers,
and it will make it to the Setup screen without the
Session3_Initialization_Failure notification.

That's it, plain and simple. Tonight, I am going to try and run a
diagnostic
on the hard drives (I have two Maxtors a 250 GB drive in two partitions, C
and G) and an 80 GB slaved to it which is a D drive. The opticals are a
Plextor 708A DVD writer Master with a Lite On 527T 52x CD-ROM.

I think this is somehow related to the motherboard and its odd settings;
there is a Primary IDE for the hard drives and a Secondary IDE RAID
controller for opticals (or hard drives). I didn't set it up and whoever
did
may have tweaked something but I am puzzled as to why the Home XP CD which
is
brand spanking new does not seem to make it to Setup but the old Windows
XP
Pro does.

If I use the XP Pro disk to get to the Repair console and delete the C
drive, then reformat it NTFS (like it is now) and switch disks at reboot,
will that help? I'm at the end of my rope. Thanks for the interest, by the
way, I appreciate it.

Neal Lavon

:

If the cd boots on another PC simply cancel setup

Lets check this, with the homecd in the drive, you restart the PC and?

Yes, it's a retail copy bought at Best Buy. I wonder if it's a bad
disk. I
should check it with another computer but I don't want to mess up
anyone
else's system the way mine got messed up going through Setup.

Neal

:

All winxp cd's are bootable, you may have to ammend the boot order
in
the
bios.
I assume its a retail copy of winxp home, and not an OEM copy that
is
likely
tied to a specific PC

Nope, did none of that. I could not boot from the Home CD although
I
could
get into Setup from an old Windows XP Pro CD. I tried a repair
which
ended
in
disaster; the C drive at least is hosed; I'm not sure about a
second
partition on my hard drive which I would like to keep. But I do
have
the
info
to delete the C partition and create a new one and see if that
works.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA

:

You booted useing the xphome cd?
Deleted partitions?
Created partitions/formated/installed?

message
I had a devil of a time with a new Windows XP Home disk. I
want to
clean
install XP Home into my C partition drive. This partition
currently
contains
an old and decrepit Windows XP Pro system. I tried booting
into
Setup
with
the XP Home disk but got Stop errors and I eventually
corrupted a
system
file
[vgaoem.fon] which kept me from being able to boot into my
current
Windows
XP
Pro system. When I returned to try and run Setup Repair from
the
XP
Home
disk, I kept getting Session 3 Initialization Failures. I then
tried
it
with
the old XP Pro disk and made it to the repair screen. That
helped
me
restore
the corrupted system file. I would like to now install a clean
copy of
Windows XP Home on my current C:\ partition. So why didn't XP
Home
work
for a
Setup in my old system? Think I can use it now? Any advice
appreciated.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA
 
D

DL

If you install a sata drive you may/may not have to run a repair
installation of win using the F6 option to install sata/raid drivers from
floppy. (even if not using raid)
If this drive is going to be the boot drive you should alter boot order in
bios.
Some mobos bios may call sata scsi

Sata / Pata can coexist

If Pata is to be boot drive, set as master. You can use the ide cable with
two connectors
If sata is boot drive, set ide also as master

Neal Lavon said:
Well, at least I know what I'm dealing with now. Just a couple of quick
questions:

a) I'm considering getting an SATA hard drive because the motherboard has a
connection for it (several, actually). I assume a SATA and PATA hard drive
can co-exist peacefully under Windows XP?

b) I will likely have one PATA hard drive connected through the Primary IDE
connector on the motherboard. Can it be connected with a master jumper and an
80-pin cable leaving the slave connector unhooked or do I have to get a cable
with only one connector?

Any thoughts appreciated (as is everything else).

Neal Lavon

DL said:
Yes thats it.
A new/clean install of win to a new hd, ensure all other hd's are
disconnected, connect only a single cd.
After installation and reboot, connect the failed hd reboot.
You *may* be able to see the other/failed hd and copy data though the sys
may not boot if so its a terminal hd prob.
If you are able to recover data, after doing so. Shutdown disconnect the
prob hd, reboot.
Shutdown, connect any other hd's reboot.
Shutdown, connect any other cd drives, reboot.
NB all the shutdown / connect devices is just to ensure you dont get 'odd'
drive letters/designations


Neal Lavon said:
Just tested the hard drive with Maxtor's floppy test and the hard
drive
with
C is failing. Guess that's it?

Neal Lavon

:

Aarg...now I can't even get the CD ROM as a bootable option in the
BIOS.
I
can read it in what remains of Windows but it is no longer a boot option.
Grrr.. I do have some floppy setup disks and a program checker so I
can
try
that. What next? Besides throwing the whole thing out the window...

Neal Lavon

:

0x0000007B indicates an inaccessible boot device

After using hd checking utility, if it OK's your hd's.
Create a new raid/sata floppy - use a new floppy, newly formated.

Then try this;
Disconnect all extra devices. ie use monitor/vid card,
mouse,keybd,
single
cd drive, single hd, single ram stick
Enter the BIOS, set to defaults, other than boot from cd first
Save
Boot with xphome cd
Delete any partitions
Create Partition/s
Format/Install use F6 option to install raid/sata drivers

Hopefully all will go well, if so connect the extra hardware one
at a
time,
rebooting after each install
You will need to install mobo chipset drivers, from the mobo cd,
or
manu
site and vid drivers.
Use only manu.site drivers, NOT winupdate.

I set my boot order in the AMI BIOS on an Asus P5GD1. It boots
from
the
CD; I
F6 at the proper place to load an ITE 8212F RAID controller
which
Asus
Tech
Support says is necessary. The Setup Program starts and gets
about
to the
end
when it blinks on the screen, comes back up, I hear the CD
winding
down
and I
get a Session3_Initialization_Failure. If I don't load the RAID
controllers,
I get 0x0000007B, 0xF7C8263C, 0xC0000034, 0x000000, 0x0000000 errors. That
is
with the Windows XP Home CD.

With the Windows XP Pro disk, I boot from the CD, F6 for the controllers,
and it will make it to the Setup screen without the
Session3_Initialization_Failure notification.

That's it, plain and simple. Tonight, I am going to try and run a
diagnostic
on the hard drives (I have two Maxtors a 250 GB drive in two partitions, C
and G) and an 80 GB slaved to it which is a D drive. The
opticals
are a
Plextor 708A DVD writer Master with a Lite On 527T 52x CD-ROM.

I think this is somehow related to the motherboard and its odd settings;
there is a Primary IDE for the hard drives and a Secondary IDE RAID
controller for opticals (or hard drives). I didn't set it up and whoever
did
may have tweaked something but I am puzzled as to why the Home
XP CD
which
is
brand spanking new does not seem to make it to Setup but the old Windows
XP
Pro does.

If I use the XP Pro disk to get to the Repair console and delete
the
C
drive, then reformat it NTFS (like it is now) and switch disks
at
reboot,
will that help? I'm at the end of my rope. Thanks for the
interest,
by the
way, I appreciate it.

Neal Lavon

:

If the cd boots on another PC simply cancel setup

Lets check this, with the homecd in the drive, you restart the
PC
and?
Yes, it's a retail copy bought at Best Buy. I wonder if it's
a
bad
disk. I
should check it with another computer but I don't want to
mess
up
anyone
else's system the way mine got messed up going through Setup.

Neal

:

All winxp cd's are bootable, you may have to ammend the
boot
order
in
the
bios.
I assume its a retail copy of winxp home, and not an OEM
copy
that
is
likely
tied to a specific PC

"Neal Lavon" <Neal (e-mail address removed)> wrote
in
message
Nope, did none of that. I could not boot from the Home
CD
although
I
could
get into Setup from an old Windows XP Pro CD. I tried a repair
which
ended
in
disaster; the C drive at least is hosed; I'm not sure
about
a
second
partition on my hard drive which I would like to keep.
But I
do
have
the
info
to delete the C partition and create a new one and see
if
that
works.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA

:

You booted useing the xphome cd?
Deleted partitions?
Created partitions/formated/installed?

"Neal Lavon" <[email protected]>
wrote
in
message
I had a devil of a time with a new Windows XP Home
disk.
I
want to
clean
install XP Home into my C partition drive. This partition
currently
contains
an old and decrepit Windows XP Pro system. I tried booting
into
Setup
with
the XP Home disk but got Stop errors and I eventually
corrupted a
system
file
[vgaoem.fon] which kept me from being able to boot
into
my
current
Windows
XP
Pro system. When I returned to try and run Setup
Repair
from
the
XP
Home
disk, I kept getting Session 3 Initialization
Failures.
I then
tried
it
with
the old XP Pro disk and made it to the repair
screen.
That
helped
me
restore
the corrupted system file. I would like to now
install a
clean
copy of
Windows XP Home on my current C:\ partition. So why didn't XP
Home
work
for a
Setup in my old system? Think I can use it now? Any advice
appreciated.

Neal Lavon
Takoma Park, MD
USA
 

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