"Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM

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Dmitriy Kopnichev

Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP problem
only.
Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.
 
D

Dmitriy Kopnichev

Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP problem
only.
Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165
 
M

Malke

Dmitriy said:
Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
problem only.
Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.

Here's the relevant bit out of all the stuff that you've written:

"other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 installed to use the
DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient"

You have to have the program installed on the other computers. This is
the way it works. You would need this whether you were running Win9x/ME
or Win2k, or WinXP. If you don't want to do this, then don't use that
program. End of story.

Malke
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Dmitriy said:
An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
formatting or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What
application are you using to format the DVD again?

Dmitriy said:

Shenan said:
Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not
actually saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it
can read/write to them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining
now - possibly it worked before?

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
XP do you have?
Did this work before?
(possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and
trying again?)
Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
(You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a
Windows issue and not a hardware one.)

Dmitriy said:
Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
problem only.
Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.

Okay - you didn't really answer one of my questions.

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
XP do you have?
(from the article you gave: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588)

If your drive is not one of those, I cannot say for sure it is supported,
strictly from the information I can locate.

Now reading the article you gave next:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165

I see that
"This problem was first corrected in Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2."

Have you checked the versions of the files listed in the article above as
well as contacted Microsoft to report this problem and get the specific
hotfix they mention in the article?

------
To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support
Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft Product
Support Services phone numbers and information about support costs, visit
the following Microsoft Web site:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];CNTACTMS
------

As the article clearly was updated after the release of SP2 and just days
before you posted your query, on 8/25/2004. Perhaps you should contact
Microsoft as the article stated and see about getting the hotfix *if* the
versions of the listed files in the article do not match.
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Dmitriy said:
An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
formatting or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What
application are you using to format the DVD again?

Dmitriy said:

Shenan said:
Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not
actually saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it
can read/write to them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining
now - possibly it worked before?

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
XP do you have?
Did this work before?
(possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and
trying again?)
Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
(You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a
Windows issue and not a hardware one.)

Dmitriy said:
Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
problem only.
Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.

Shenan said:
Okay - you didn't really answer one of my questions.

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
XP do you have?
(from the article you gave: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588)

If your drive is not one of those, I cannot say for sure it is
supported, strictly from the information I can locate.

Now reading the article you gave next:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165

I see that
"This problem was first corrected in Microsoft Windows XP Service
Pack 2."

Have you checked the versions of the files listed in the article
above as well as contacted Microsoft to report this problem and get
the specific hotfix they mention in the article?

------
To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support
Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft
Product Support Services phone numbers and information about support
costs, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];CNTACTMS
------

As the article clearly was updated after the release of SP2 and just
days before you posted your query, on 8/25/2004. Perhaps you should
contact Microsoft as the article stated and see about getting the
hotfix *if* the versions of the listed files in the article do not
match.

My bad - you did say which drive you had.. One made by LG, which is not one
of the two drives listed as supported.

Although the manufacturer of your drive may "insist" it is a Windows XP
problem, have they ever said it works on their Windows XP system without
third party software of any sort or special drivers which they could provide
you?

Just because two other drives (those listed in the original article you
listed above) work somewhat natively in Windows XP, do not assume your drive
which has similar functionality will. As far as it being a "Windows XP
Problem Only", that statement seems a bit skewed. If you put that drive in
a Linux, Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000 or other OS system (other than Windows XP)
are you saying those OS's support formatting and writing to this DVD RAM
drive natively?

The only other thing I would like to point out is your statement that with
Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 you can format the DVD-RAM
just fine, but that the other computers you bring it to must have Roxio Easy
DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 in order to format it on them as well -
how many computers/friends/family members do you have with DVD-RAM drives?
Any special reason you chose to populate your computing surroundings with
DVD-RAM drives instead of DVD+R/RW/-R/RW/DL? The problem with choosing any
of the DVD formats over the more common and STANDARDIZED CD formats (-R/RW)
is that obviously people cannot decide on a standard for the DVDs yet. CDs
converged in a single path - so there is now (really) only CD-R/RW drives
available (at one point, you could get -R or -RW drives for CDs, but that
went away quickly.) Unfortunately for you and other "early adopters" who
should be called "long term waiters" now - no such standar exists for DVDs,
so you never know who is going to have what drive, what to support, etc.

In any case, my suggestion is the same - if you have contacted LG and they
told you that the DVD-RAM formatting is allowed on their drives in Windows
XP SP2 without any special drivers/third party applications and your
firmware on the drive is the same as theirs - and you have checked the
versions of the files given in that article and yours are not the same -
then contact Microsoft and request the patch.
 
D

Dmitriy Kopnichev

I'm not saying Linux, Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000 or other OS system (other than
Windows XP) support formatting and writing to a DVD RAM drive natively, but
the problem is of Windows XP software, not LG hardware.
Shenan Stanley said:
Dmitriy said:
An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
formatting or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What
application are you using to format the DVD again?

Dmitriy said:

Shenan said:
Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not
actually saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it
can read/write to them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining
now - possibly it worked before?

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
XP do you have?
Did this work before?
(possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and
trying again?)
Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
(You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a
Windows issue and not a hardware one.)

Dmitriy said:
Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
problem only.
Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.

Shenan said:
Okay - you didn't really answer one of my questions.

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
XP do you have?
(from the article you gave: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588)

If your drive is not one of those, I cannot say for sure it is
supported, strictly from the information I can locate.

Now reading the article you gave next:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165

I see that
"This problem was first corrected in Microsoft Windows XP Service
Pack 2."

Have you checked the versions of the files listed in the article
above as well as contacted Microsoft to report this problem and get
the specific hotfix they mention in the article?

------
To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support
Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft
Product Support Services phone numbers and information about support
costs, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];CNTACTMS
------

As the article clearly was updated after the release of SP2 and just
days before you posted your query, on 8/25/2004. Perhaps you should
contact Microsoft as the article stated and see about getting the
hotfix *if* the versions of the listed files in the article do not
match.

My bad - you did say which drive you had.. One made by LG, which is not
one
of the two drives listed as supported.

Although the manufacturer of your drive may "insist" it is a Windows XP
problem, have they ever said it works on their Windows XP system without
third party software of any sort or special drivers which they could
provide
you?

Just because two other drives (those listed in the original article you
listed above) work somewhat natively in Windows XP, do not assume your
drive
which has similar functionality will. As far as it being a "Windows XP
Problem Only", that statement seems a bit skewed. If you put that drive
in
a Linux, Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000 or other OS system (other than Windows XP)
are you saying those OS's support formatting and writing to this DVD RAM
drive natively?

The only other thing I would like to point out is your statement that with
Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 you can format the DVD-RAM
just fine, but that the other computers you bring it to must have Roxio
Easy
DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 in order to format it on them as
well -
how many computers/friends/family members do you have with DVD-RAM drives?
Any special reason you chose to populate your computing surroundings with
DVD-RAM drives instead of DVD+R/RW/-R/RW/DL? The problem with choosing
any
of the DVD formats over the more common and STANDARDIZED CD formats
(-R/RW)
is that obviously people cannot decide on a standard for the DVDs yet.
CDs
converged in a single path - so there is now (really) only CD-R/RW drives
available (at one point, you could get -R or -RW drives for CDs, but that
went away quickly.) Unfortunately for you and other "early adopters" who
should be called "long term waiters" now - no such standar exists for
DVDs,
so you never know who is going to have what drive, what to support, etc.

In any case, my suggestion is the same - if you have contacted LG and they
told you that the DVD-RAM formatting is allowed on their drives in Windows
XP SP2 without any special drivers/third party applications and your
firmware on the drive is the same as theirs - and you have checked the
versions of the files given in that article and yours are not the same -
then contact Microsoft and request the patch.

--
<- Shenan ->
--
The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
getting into before you jump in with both feet.
 
D

Dmitriy Kopnichev

Packet writing to a DVD+or-RW is just not suited for any valuable
information, because packet writing to a DVD+or-RW does not imply any
writing verification. DVD-RAM has several writing verification techniques.
DVD-RAM longevity is 100 times longer also. I lost much valuable information
by packet writing to DVD+or-RWs.
Shenan Stanley said:
Dmitriy said:
An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
formatting or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What
application are you using to format the DVD again?

Dmitriy said:

Shenan said:
Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not
actually saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it
can read/write to them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining
now - possibly it worked before?

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
XP do you have?
Did this work before?
(possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and
trying again?)
Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
(You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a
Windows issue and not a hardware one.)

Dmitriy said:
Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
problem only.
Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.

Shenan said:
Okay - you didn't really answer one of my questions.

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
XP do you have?
(from the article you gave: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588)

If your drive is not one of those, I cannot say for sure it is
supported, strictly from the information I can locate.

Now reading the article you gave next:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165

I see that
"This problem was first corrected in Microsoft Windows XP Service
Pack 2."

Have you checked the versions of the files listed in the article
above as well as contacted Microsoft to report this problem and get
the specific hotfix they mention in the article?

------
To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support
Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft
Product Support Services phone numbers and information about support
costs, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];CNTACTMS
------

As the article clearly was updated after the release of SP2 and just
days before you posted your query, on 8/25/2004. Perhaps you should
contact Microsoft as the article stated and see about getting the
hotfix *if* the versions of the listed files in the article do not
match.

My bad - you did say which drive you had.. One made by LG, which is not
one
of the two drives listed as supported.

Although the manufacturer of your drive may "insist" it is a Windows XP
problem, have they ever said it works on their Windows XP system without
third party software of any sort or special drivers which they could
provide
you?

Just because two other drives (those listed in the original article you
listed above) work somewhat natively in Windows XP, do not assume your
drive
which has similar functionality will. As far as it being a "Windows XP
Problem Only", that statement seems a bit skewed. If you put that drive
in
a Linux, Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000 or other OS system (other than Windows XP)
are you saying those OS's support formatting and writing to this DVD RAM
drive natively?

The only other thing I would like to point out is your statement that with
Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 you can format the DVD-RAM
just fine, but that the other computers you bring it to must have Roxio
Easy
DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 in order to format it on them as
well -
how many computers/friends/family members do you have with DVD-RAM drives?
Any special reason you chose to populate your computing surroundings with
DVD-RAM drives instead of DVD+R/RW/-R/RW/DL? The problem with choosing
any
of the DVD formats over the more common and STANDARDIZED CD formats
(-R/RW)
is that obviously people cannot decide on a standard for the DVDs yet.
CDs
converged in a single path - so there is now (really) only CD-R/RW drives
available (at one point, you could get -R or -RW drives for CDs, but that
went away quickly.) Unfortunately for you and other "early adopters" who
should be called "long term waiters" now - no such standar exists for
DVDs,
so you never know who is going to have what drive, what to support, etc.

In any case, my suggestion is the same - if you have contacted LG and they
told you that the DVD-RAM formatting is allowed on their drives in Windows
XP SP2 without any special drivers/third party applications and your
firmware on the drive is the same as theirs - and you have checked the
versions of the files given in that article and yours are not the same -
then contact Microsoft and request the patch.

--
<- Shenan ->
--
The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
getting into before you jump in with both feet.
 
D

Dmitriy Kopnichev

Packet writing to a DVD+or-RW just does not suit for any valuable
information, because packet writing to a DVD+or-RW does not imply any
writing verification. DVD-RAM has several writing verification techniques.
DVD-RAM longevity is 100 times longer also. I lost much valuable information
by packet writing to DVD+or-RWs.
Dmitriy Kopnichev said:
I'm not saying Linux, Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000 or other OS system (other than
Windows XP) support formatting and writing to a DVD RAM drive natively,
but the problem is of Windows XP software, not LG hardware.
Shenan Stanley said:
Dmitriy said:
An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
formatting or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What
application are you using to format the DVD again?

Dmitriy said:

Shenan said:
Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not
actually saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it
can read/write to them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining
now - possibly it worked before?

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
XP do you have?
Did this work before?
(possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and
trying again?)
Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
(You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a
Windows issue and not a hardware one.)

Dmitriy said:
Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
problem only.
Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.

Shenan said:
Okay - you didn't really answer one of my questions.

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
XP do you have?
(from the article you gave: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588)

If your drive is not one of those, I cannot say for sure it is
supported, strictly from the information I can locate.

Now reading the article you gave next:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165

I see that
"This problem was first corrected in Microsoft Windows XP Service
Pack 2."

Have you checked the versions of the files listed in the article
above as well as contacted Microsoft to report this problem and get
the specific hotfix they mention in the article?

------
To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support
Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft
Product Support Services phone numbers and information about support
costs, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];CNTACTMS
------

As the article clearly was updated after the release of SP2 and just
days before you posted your query, on 8/25/2004. Perhaps you should
contact Microsoft as the article stated and see about getting the
hotfix *if* the versions of the listed files in the article do not
match.

My bad - you did say which drive you had.. One made by LG, which is not
one
of the two drives listed as supported.

Although the manufacturer of your drive may "insist" it is a Windows XP
problem, have they ever said it works on their Windows XP system without
third party software of any sort or special drivers which they could
provide
you?

Just because two other drives (those listed in the original article you
listed above) work somewhat natively in Windows XP, do not assume your
drive
which has similar functionality will. As far as it being a "Windows XP
Problem Only", that statement seems a bit skewed. If you put that drive
in
a Linux, Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000 or other OS system (other than Windows XP)
are you saying those OS's support formatting and writing to this DVD RAM
drive natively?

The only other thing I would like to point out is your statement that
with
Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 you can format the
DVD-RAM
just fine, but that the other computers you bring it to must have Roxio
Easy
DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 in order to format it on them as
well -
how many computers/friends/family members do you have with DVD-RAM
drives?
Any special reason you chose to populate your computing surroundings with
DVD-RAM drives instead of DVD+R/RW/-R/RW/DL? The problem with choosing
any
of the DVD formats over the more common and STANDARDIZED CD formats
(-R/RW)
is that obviously people cannot decide on a standard for the DVDs yet.
CDs
converged in a single path - so there is now (really) only CD-R/RW drives
available (at one point, you could get -R or -RW drives for CDs, but that
went away quickly.) Unfortunately for you and other "early adopters" who
should be called "long term waiters" now - no such standar exists for
DVDs,
so you never know who is going to have what drive, what to support, etc.

In any case, my suggestion is the same - if you have contacted LG and
they
told you that the DVD-RAM formatting is allowed on their drives in
Windows
XP SP2 without any special drivers/third party applications and your
firmware on the drive is the same as theirs - and you have checked the
versions of the files given in that article and yours are not the same -
then contact Microsoft and request the patch.

--
<- Shenan ->
--
The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
getting into before you jump in with both feet.
 
D

Dmitriy Kopnichev

People just do not decide on a standard for a random DVD writing, because
most people just do not use DVDs for a random DVD writing yet. They have
only one choice for random DVD writing - DVD-RAM, DVD-or+RW do not suit at
all.
Shenan Stanley said:
Dmitriy said:
An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
formatting or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What
application are you using to format the DVD again?

Dmitriy said:

Shenan said:
Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not
actually saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it
can read/write to them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining
now - possibly it worked before?

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
XP do you have?
Did this work before?
(possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and
trying again?)
Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
(You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a
Windows issue and not a hardware one.)

Dmitriy said:
Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
problem only.
Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.

Shenan said:
Okay - you didn't really answer one of my questions.

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
XP do you have?
(from the article you gave: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588)

If your drive is not one of those, I cannot say for sure it is
supported, strictly from the information I can locate.

Now reading the article you gave next:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165

I see that
"This problem was first corrected in Microsoft Windows XP Service
Pack 2."

Have you checked the versions of the files listed in the article
above as well as contacted Microsoft to report this problem and get
the specific hotfix they mention in the article?

------
To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support
Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft
Product Support Services phone numbers and information about support
costs, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];CNTACTMS
------

As the article clearly was updated after the release of SP2 and just
days before you posted your query, on 8/25/2004. Perhaps you should
contact Microsoft as the article stated and see about getting the
hotfix *if* the versions of the listed files in the article do not
match.

My bad - you did say which drive you had.. One made by LG, which is not
one
of the two drives listed as supported.

Although the manufacturer of your drive may "insist" it is a Windows XP
problem, have they ever said it works on their Windows XP system without
third party software of any sort or special drivers which they could
provide
you?

Just because two other drives (those listed in the original article you
listed above) work somewhat natively in Windows XP, do not assume your
drive
which has similar functionality will. As far as it being a "Windows XP
Problem Only", that statement seems a bit skewed. If you put that drive
in
a Linux, Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000 or other OS system (other than Windows XP)
are you saying those OS's support formatting and writing to this DVD RAM
drive natively?

The only other thing I would like to point out is your statement that with
Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 you can format the DVD-RAM
just fine, but that the other computers you bring it to must have Roxio
Easy
DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 in order to format it on them as
well -
how many computers/friends/family members do you have with DVD-RAM drives?
Any special reason you chose to populate your computing surroundings with
DVD-RAM drives instead of DVD+R/RW/-R/RW/DL? The problem with choosing
any
of the DVD formats over the more common and STANDARDIZED CD formats
(-R/RW)
is that obviously people cannot decide on a standard for the DVDs yet.
CDs
converged in a single path - so there is now (really) only CD-R/RW drives
available (at one point, you could get -R or -RW drives for CDs, but that
went away quickly.) Unfortunately for you and other "early adopters" who
should be called "long term waiters" now - no such standar exists for
DVDs,
so you never know who is going to have what drive, what to support, etc.

In any case, my suggestion is the same - if you have contacted LG and they
told you that the DVD-RAM formatting is allowed on their drives in Windows
XP SP2 without any special drivers/third party applications and your
firmware on the drive is the same as theirs - and you have checked the
versions of the files given in that article and yours are not the same -
then contact Microsoft and request the patch.

--
<- Shenan ->
--
The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
getting into before you jump in with both feet.
 
D

Dmitriy Kopnichev

C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys is version 5.1.2600.2180, created
7/19/2002 20:53, modified 8/3/2004 19:59 and is different than in the
hotfix.
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\classpnp.sys is version 5.1.2600.2180, created
7/19/2002 20:53, modified 8/3/2004 20:14 and is different than in the
hotfix. The file versions are newer.
Shenan Stanley said:
Dmitriy said:
An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
formatting or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What
application are you using to format the DVD again?

Dmitriy said:

Shenan said:
Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not
actually saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it
can read/write to them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining
now - possibly it worked before?

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
XP do you have?
Did this work before?
(possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and
trying again?)
Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
(You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a
Windows issue and not a hardware one.)

Dmitriy said:
Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
problem only.
Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.

Okay - you didn't really answer one of my questions.

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
XP do you have?
(from the article you gave: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588)

If your drive is not one of those, I cannot say for sure it is supported,
strictly from the information I can locate.

Now reading the article you gave next:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165

I see that
"This problem was first corrected in Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2."

Have you checked the versions of the files listed in the article above as
well as contacted Microsoft to report this problem and get the specific
hotfix they mention in the article?

------
To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support
Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft Product
Support Services phone numbers and information about support costs, visit
the following Microsoft Web site:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];CNTACTMS
------

As the article clearly was updated after the release of SP2 and just days
before you posted your query, on 8/25/2004. Perhaps you should contact
Microsoft as the article stated and see about getting the hotfix *if* the
versions of the listed files in the article do not match.

--
<- Shenan ->
--
The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
getting into before you jump in with both feet.
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Dmitriy said:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys is version 5.1.2600.2180,
created 7/19/2002 20:53, modified 8/3/2004 19:59 and is different
than in the hotfix.
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\classpnp.sys is version 5.1.2600.2180,
created 7/19/2002 20:53, modified 8/3/2004 20:14 and is different
than in the hotfix. The file versions are newer.

Dimitriy,

How about putting all your answers in a single response next time?
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Dmitriy said:
LG replied that the error is Windows XP, not LG drive, problem only.

Yes - it is called passing the blame to someone else.

Have they outright told you that it works in Windows XP withot any third
party software?
 
D

Dmitriy Kopnichev

Hello
The patch does not install, it writes that a newer update (SP2) is
installed. Microsoft support can not suggest anything yet.
Shenan Stanley said:
Dmitriy said:
An error "Windows was unable to complete the format" appears when
Windows XP Pro SP2 formats a DVD-RAM. The error appears when the
format is "Quick" and Full. How to format the DVD-RAM successfully?
I do not recall Windows XP, XP SP1 or XP SP2 supporting natively
formatting or burning DVD-R/RW, +R/RW, DL or RAM.. What
application are you using to format the DVD again?

Dmitriy said:

Shenan said:
Okay, although the article is sparse in actual information, not
actually saying it formats DVD-RAM as DVD-RAM discs, just that it
can read/write to them, I have no doubt that if you are complaining
now - possibly it worked before?

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
XP do you have?
Did this work before?
(possibly before SP2? If so, have you tried uninstalling SP2 and
trying again?)
Does it work with any third party software you have/can download?
(You might try a trial version of NERO, just to be sure this is a
Windows issue and not a hardware one.)

Dmitriy said:
Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 formats the DVD-RAM
successfully, but other computers should have Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48
installed to use the DVD-RAM, which is inconvenient.
LG, producer of my DVD-RAM drive, insists that this is Windows XP
problem only.
Windows XP SP1 had the same problem also.

Shenan said:
Okay - you didn't really answer one of my questions.

Which of the two drives they list as being compatable with Windows
XP do you have?
(from the article you gave: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=283588)

If your drive is not one of those, I cannot say for sure it is
supported, strictly from the information I can locate.

Now reading the article you gave next:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=836165

I see that
"This problem was first corrected in Microsoft Windows XP Service
Pack 2."

Have you checked the versions of the files listed in the article
above as well as contacted Microsoft to report this problem and get
the specific hotfix they mention in the article?

------
To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support
Services to obtain the hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft
Product Support Services phone numbers and information about support
costs, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];CNTACTMS
------

As the article clearly was updated after the release of SP2 and just
days before you posted your query, on 8/25/2004. Perhaps you should
contact Microsoft as the article stated and see about getting the
hotfix *if* the versions of the listed files in the article do not
match.

My bad - you did say which drive you had.. One made by LG, which is not
one
of the two drives listed as supported.

Although the manufacturer of your drive may "insist" it is a Windows XP
problem, have they ever said it works on their Windows XP system without
third party software of any sort or special drivers which they could
provide
you?

Just because two other drives (those listed in the original article you
listed above) work somewhat natively in Windows XP, do not assume your
drive
which has similar functionality will. As far as it being a "Windows XP
Problem Only", that statement seems a bit skewed. If you put that drive
in
a Linux, Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000 or other OS system (other than Windows XP)
are you saying those OS's support formatting and writing to this DVD RAM
drive natively?

The only other thing I would like to point out is your statement that with
Roxio Easy DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 you can format the DVD-RAM
just fine, but that the other computers you bring it to must have Roxio
Easy
DVD&CD Creator Drag-to-disk 6.1.1.48 in order to format it on them as
well -
how many computers/friends/family members do you have with DVD-RAM drives?
Any special reason you chose to populate your computing surroundings with
DVD-RAM drives instead of DVD+R/RW/-R/RW/DL? The problem with choosing
any
of the DVD formats over the more common and STANDARDIZED CD formats
(-R/RW)
is that obviously people cannot decide on a standard for the DVDs yet.
CDs
converged in a single path - so there is now (really) only CD-R/RW drives
available (at one point, you could get -R or -RW drives for CDs, but that
went away quickly.) Unfortunately for you and other "early adopters" who
should be called "long term waiters" now - no such standar exists for
DVDs,
so you never know who is going to have what drive, what to support, etc.

In any case, my suggestion is the same - if you have contacted LG and they
told you that the DVD-RAM formatting is allowed on their drives in Windows
XP SP2 without any special drivers/third party applications and your
firmware on the drive is the same as theirs - and you have checked the
versions of the files given in that article and yours are not the same -
then contact Microsoft and request the patch.

--
<- Shenan ->
--
The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
getting into before you jump in with both feet.
 

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