Jonathan Kay said:Greetings Fallen,
Although you can forcibly remove Windows Messenger, if you do, features like Remote
Assistance, Whiteboard and Application Sharing within MSN Messenger 6.x and Windows will no
longer work. As well, some applications that specifically call on Messenger (like for
example Outlook Express) will appear to freeze or refuse to load as they try to start
Messenger (you can however, turn off this functionality to fix this problem).
Instead, you can simply disable Windows Messenger. To do so, open it up (click Start, then
Run, type "msmsgs" and click OK), click Tools, Options, Preferences tab and uncheck 'Run this
Program when Windows starts' or 'Run Windows Messenger when Windows starts' (depending on
version) as well as 'Allow this program to run in the background' or 'Allow Windows Messenger
to run in the background' (depending on version). This won't remove Windows Messenger, so
features like Remote Assistance, Whiteboard and Application Sharing will continue to work,
but it will let it stay out of your way.
Also, do you have Norton Antivirus installed? Recent versions of Norton Antivirus added a
new "instant messaging scanning" feature, which can conflict with Messenger and cause it to
also keep starting. To stop it, open Norton Antivirus (Right-click on the Norton Antivirus
icon in the System Tray/Notification Area (by the clock), choose 'Open Norton Antivirus'),
click Options, then Instant Messenger then uncheck MSN Instant Messenger and click OK.
If you'd prefer to just remove Windows Messenger however, you can do so by following the
instructions here:
http://messenger.jonathankay.com/problem.aspx?ID=7
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hey, thanks allot!
Also, do you have Norton Antivirus installed? Recent versions of Norton Antivirus added a
new "instant messaging scanning" feature, which can conflict with Messenger and cause it to
also keep starting. To stop it, open Norton Antivirus (Right-click on the Norton Antivirus
icon in the System Tray/Notification Area (by the clock), choose 'Open Norton Antivirus'),
click Options, then Instant Messenger then uncheck MSN Instant Messenger and click OK.
If you'd prefer to just remove Windows Messenger however, you can do so by following the
instructions here:
http://messenger.jonathankay.com/problem.aspx?ID=7
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Greetings,
No, by disabling such functionality in Norton you're simply removing their automatic scanning
when files are transferred in Messenger. Messenger now has its own virus scanning
capabilities (when turned on) which can use Norton and the file will be scanned again when
the file is run. So, assuming you had all three of these on, the file would be scanned -3-
times which is brutally pointless.
Are you sure you've completely removed Windows Messenger? What you're describing is classic
symptoms of Windows Messenger running in the background. You can double-check by opening up
the Task Manager (press Ctrl-Alt-Del), choosing the process tab and looking for msmsgs.exe
which is Windows Messenger (msnmsgr.exe is MSN Messenger).
Then Windows Messenger (not MSN Messenger) is gone. There actually was never a MSN MessengerSubMariner said:I checked the task manager & it does not show up. I also ran the remove
sequence you described in one of your first msgs in this thread: "RunDll32
advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove " but I get a
msg that says "MSN Messenger 4.7 is not installed on this PC".
This is MSN Messenger 7.5.HOWEVER, when I go into my Program files I see that MSN Messenger is indeed
in the program files. If I try to remove it, it takes my ability to IM out.
Windows Live Messenger was released and is now out of the beta stage. Feel free to upgrade.FYI, I'm running Messenger 7.5. I see that Messenger Live is available, but
isn't that just at the Beta stage & not really ready for mass consumption?
Then Windows Messenger (not MSN Messenger) is gone. There actually was never a MSN Messenger 4.7.
Windows Live Messenger was released and is now out of the beta stage. Feel free to upgrade.
NOT install into my Startup?
Jonathan Kay said:You actually can't stop it via msconfig -- it'll start anyway.
SubMariner said:Yeesh. Why is are the Msger programs being made so invasive? Consumers want
the ability to start & stop it when THEY want to. IF I AM GOING TO INSTALL
MSGER LIVE I WANT THIS ABILITY.
Meanwhile, I am STILL experiencing the logging off problem even though I
have disabled my Norton AV policing of Msger & run that "remove" procedure as
previously mentioned in this thread.
Thanks,
~SubMariner~
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