Windows Defender and AVG

[Jones16]

I recently updated AVG to AVG 9.0. Immediately following the update, Windows
Defender shuts off after the initial start-up. Any help correcting this
problem is appreciated. Thanks

Steve Wintonick

 

[1PW]

I recently updated AVG to AVG 9.0. Immediately following the update, Windows
Defender shuts off after the initial start-up. Any help correcting this
problem is appreciated. Thanks

Steve Wintonick

This is normal operation with AVG9:

<http://www.avg.com/ww-en/faq.num-2672#faq_2672>

HTH

 

[Ǝиçεl]

Many recent anti-virus programs include anti-spyware coverage, and thus (at
Microsoft's recommendation) disable Windows Defender.

AVG is one vendor which has done this in a recent release.

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[Jones16]

Thanks. Is there a product that will work in conjunction with AVG for
additional protection?

 

[Ǝиçεl]

While it's never a good idea to run multiple Anti-virus programs, it's
actually often recommended to run multiple anti-spyware programs, if not in
real time at least using a secondary AS as a reality check using background
on demand scans.

There is not one product that can trap every virus / spyware /
trojan. You should consider getting MalwareBytes' Anti-Malware (MBAM)Free
and SuperAntiSpyware (SAS) free as additional tools.



Ǝиçεl
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[Jerry Martin]

Hello:

Is it a good idea to run ThreatFire ( http://www.threatfire.com/ ) together
with an anti-virus program such as AVG or MSE?

Thanks,
Jerry

 

[Jones16]

Thanks again.

Steven Wintonick

While it's never a good idea to run multiple Anti-virus programs, it's
actually often recommended to run multiple anti-spyware programs, if not in
real time at least using a secondary AS as a reality check using background
on demand scans.

There is not one product that can trap every virus / spyware /
trojan. You should consider getting MalwareBytes' Anti-Malware (MBAM)Free
and SuperAntiSpyware (SAS) free as additional tools.



Ǝиçεl
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[Bill Sanderson]

I don't know much about Threatfire except what I see at their site. They
seem to feel it is compatible with standard a/v scanners--but since every
vendor out there is looking at the same kinds of "behavioral" detection
issues, I do wonder whether multiple vendors will end up stepping on each
others toes over time. The reviews I saw cited were not recent, and were in
only one publication.

There is a single API which is shared by all real-time protection
applications on a given system. It is best to have only a single
application using that API. So--it's fine to have multiple apps which do
separate def updates and scanning of whatever kind--spyware, antivirus, etc.

Limit the real-time scanning to a single application though. Some apps can
be installed and have real-time protection turned off--so you can switch
between apps, but this is really not something the average user should
bother with--pick a vendor you trust and use them as your primary

 

[Jerry Martin]

Hi Bill:

A few years ago I ran into trouble with having both AVG Free and BitDefender
Free installed at the same time on Win XP Home. The free edition of
BitDefender was an on-demand only scanner, so I thought I could install it
with AVG. However, having BitDefender installed caused Outlook Express to
have trouble connecting to my ISP's POP3 server. Sometimes it would take 30
or more seconds for Outlook Express to connect, when connecting usually took
about 1 second. Other times, Outlook Express would time out and not be able
to connect with the POP3 server. Uninstalling BitDefender Free resolved the
problem.

Cheers,
Jerry

 

[Bill Sanderson]

Interesting--I wouldn't have expected that either. There's no way the tech
support for any of the anti-malware products is going to be aware of all the
potential conflicts, except through their customers trying the combinations,
and letting them know. Vendors with a larger installed base have a better
chance of getting enough complaints to actually log something, of course.

 

[Kevn]

Which program do you recommend keeping , AVG or Defender if both should not
be run ?

 

[robinb]

AVG is an antivirus program, Defender is an antispyware program
You need an antivirus program and an antispyware program- you just have to
make sure they do not do scans at the exact same time. AVG normally takes
about 2-3 yrs to run depending on your HD and how old your processor is.
Defender on a quick scan takes about 20-30min so set them to run at least
4-5 hours from each other.
and as Steve says- you can have several antispyware programs but only ONE
antivirus program.
I use Superantispyware Pro because you can set it to scan and the free one
is On Demand. I also use Malwarebytes as a backup.
robin

 

[robinb]

oh and there is a conflict with AVG and Defender- AVG will shut off Defender
but as long as you have backup antispyware programs that is not a real biggy
robin

 

[Jerry Martin]

Hi Robin:

I thought that recent versions of AVG had both anti-virus and anti-spyware
functionality, similar to MSE. Am I misunderstanding AVG's claims?

Thanks,
Jerry

 

[robinb]

yes AVG does have both similar to MSE but one antispyware program is just
not enough.
you need a backup just in case AVG or MSE doesn't create a definition in
time for the new infection and the other one does.
They both just cannot run a scan at the exact same time or your computer
will just lock up.
robin

 

[Jerry Martin]

Hi Robin:

Thanks for clarifying this for me.

Jerry

 

[robinb]

you are very welcome
robin

Hi Robin:

Thanks for clarifying this for me.

Jerry

 

[Jerry Martin]

Hi Again Robin:

Would running an anti-malware program such as MSE, Avira Free, Avast Free,
*or* AVG Free in combination with SuperAntiSpyware and MalwareBytes'
Anti-Malware run on an on-demand basis be a good anti-malware strategy?

Thanks,
Jerry

 

[robin]

MSE is an antivirus program with antispyware build in it so you cannot run
it with another antivirus program, but you can run it with Superantispyware
and Malwarebytes
Superantispyware and Malwarebytes can run along side any antivirus program
If you get the pro version of either one- you just cannot set it to do a
scan at the exact same time

I prefer to run MSE and Superantispyware Pro in real time- they both play
very nice with each ther
Avast free plays very nice with Superantispyware Pro too.
So does Avira
I use Malwarebytes as an On demand Scanner as a backup
robin

 

[Jerry Martin]

Hi Robin:

I was trying to say that I wanted to run *one* of the anti-virus programs in
real-time (with regular on-demand scans) plus SuperAntiSpyware and
MalwareBytes' Anti-Malware run on an on-demand basis (on-demand scanning
only).

From reading the posts in these newsgroups, I'm getting the impression that
SuperAntiSpyware and MalwareBytes' Anti-Malware are a better set of tools
than Spybot Search&Destroy and Lavasoft Ad-Aware?

Thanks,
Jerry